Regarding vote.com: the only people who really know about this site watch FOX where the site is mentioned. FOX News is ?fair and balanced? with a slant toward conservatism. Democrats are fed the notion FOX News is dead-set against their ?side? so you won?t see many there. Thus everybody except liberals/democrats would vote there.
<< Especially considering stuff like that happens daily, though, you probably don't care to watch the news, read the newspaper, etc. because you are too busy drinking Nyquil milkshakes in your parents' basement writing death threats to Al Gore and love poems about George W. >>
Good point zippy.
Slap
<< I have to get some sleep. I'll reply to more of DanC's idiocy, ignorance, and lack of elaboration tomorrow after classes. >>
Obviously the young lad retired prior to reading my PM. I apologized for calling him a "Schlemiel" - but not for calling him a liberal.
It's a debate - get over it.
We could arm wrestle or something if it'd make you feel better.
C'mon Red -
I never denied being a conservative. I'm as proud of it as any liberal is proud of their (admittedly curious fixation on being overtaxed and over-regulated).
My post was irony from the beginning. There's alot of folks ready to dismiss Mr. Bush solely on the basis that he appears to "stumble" - while Mr. Gore (who should be in prison) - except of course that he owns Janet Reno - Slickly spews his liberal garbage...
I'm willing to be open-minded... show me something that won't make me vomit...
I never denied being a conservative. I'm as proud of it as any liberal is proud of their (admittedly curious fixation on being overtaxed and over-regulated).
My post was irony from the beginning. There's alot of folks ready to dismiss Mr. Bush solely on the basis that he appears to "stumble" - while Mr. Gore (who should be in prison) - except of course that he owns Janet Reno - Slickly spews his liberal garbage...
I'm willing to be open-minded... show me something that won't make me vomit...
"and bush has about as much experience as clinton did when clinton ran, and i bet you wouldn't have held that against him. "
You are wrong, clinton held several govenerment posts before he became governor. Also the position of governor in texas is an odd one with very little power compared to other states.
You are wrong, clinton held several govenerment posts before he became governor. Also the position of governor in texas is an odd one with very little power compared to other states.
<< bumbling is an effect of idiocy. >>
I happen to know several people who stutter. It is not a sign of ignorance. It can be described as a hiccup in the brain. For you to say that is the real ignorance. You are liberal, yet you attack a handicap. Damn, I thought the liberals loved those who are less fortunate. Anyways, so what if Bush "bumbles"? I would rather have a president who bumbled than one who lied. I would rather have a bumbler than a hypocrite. Lets protect the environment, but let me own huge investments in Big Oil. Let us take all the credit for the economy. You know how the economy just changes in one year. Yah right!
Let me invent the internet or attempt to. Hell, I sponsor every bill that you want me to. It is not called being smart, it is called being a con artist, a smooth talker. Al Gore misrepresents facts continually and is a hypocrite. He made worse grades than Bush. He put HIS kids in Private School. He has a wife named Tipper...
Anyways Cheney won tonight. Lieberman is an ok guy and has a good bit of debate experience. Cheney has little debate experience. Cheney does have tons of experience as a member of a presidential cabinent. I would rather have Cheney with his experience and bumbling Bush over Al Gore. Sorry.
I tell ya, I've always been very imnpressed with Cheney, but after watching tonight's debate, I must say, Cheney rocks. This guy is cool and calculated, tells it like it is, knows his sh*t, and doesn't get intimidated by anything.
I especially liked the one part where Lieberman put in that "and you too, Mr. Cheney, have done very well in the last 8 years in the economy" (insinuating that Cheney's business has done so well because of the Clinton/Bore administration) -- Cheney put the smack right back down on him : "I assure you, that success had absolutely nothing to do with the government". And there you have it... Lieberman likes to believe the people succeed because of the government, while Cheney (having been in the private sector) knows that it's the other way around.
I especially liked the one part where Lieberman put in that "and you too, Mr. Cheney, have done very well in the last 8 years in the economy" (insinuating that Cheney's business has done so well because of the Clinton/Bore administration) -- Cheney put the smack right back down on him : "I assure you, that success had absolutely nothing to do with the government". And there you have it... Lieberman likes to believe the people succeed because of the government, while Cheney (having been in the private sector) knows that it's the other way around.
Red - Again.. .and again... and again -
YOU HAVE MISSED THE POINT!
It's not about R vs. D - what is broken is the Electoral College system that robs you of your vote. DIRECT POPULAR VOTE - that is the most compelling issue in electoral questions.
Get rid of the parties! - how's that?
1 vote = 1 vote ... not THAT's the way it should be. Can you dispute that?
YOU HAVE MISSED THE POINT!
It's not about R vs. D - what is broken is the Electoral College system that robs you of your vote. DIRECT POPULAR VOTE - that is the most compelling issue in electoral questions.
Get rid of the parties! - how's that?
1 vote = 1 vote ... not THAT's the way it should be. Can you dispute that?
<< You are wrong, clinton held several govenerment posts before he became governor. Also the position of governor in texas is an odd one with very little power compared to other states. >>
Zucchini - Just curious... what planet have you been living on?
<< Regarding vote.com: the only people who really know about this site watch FOX where the site is mentioned. FOX News is ?fair and balanced? with a slant toward conservatism. Democrats are fed the notion FOX News is dead-set against their ?side? so you won?t see many there. Thus everybody except liberals/democrats would vote there. >>
On the CNN poll on their website, it had George clearly winning yet when CNN reported the voting on TV, they said according to 53 people they polled, Gore came out on top after the debates. I bet if the CNN internet poll favored Gore, they would have mentioned that one instead. CNN is extemely liberal while the main hosts of FOX news may be conservative, at least they make sure to include liberals on their show to get both point across. CNN takes independents and tries to dress them up as conservatives. Also, Fox gives coverage to a lot of people who are not Democrats and Republicans, moreso than CNN so yeah, Fox is more fair and balanced reporting than CNN.
It wasn't just the bumbling, he totally bombed when he was asked about foreign policy. Also making statements about al gore saying he invented the internet when al gore has never said that.
I have to agree that the electoral college system sucks. Clinton won the electoral vote by a landslide however, he only beat Dole in 1996 by 4% of the overal vote in America.
I also wish they got rid of the party system. The future presidents will definately come from one of the two parties for a very long time and only people who can be bought by huge groups and corporations will get their parties nomination, example, George Bush and Al Gore.
I also wish they got rid of the party system. The future presidents will definately come from one of the two parties for a very long time and only people who can be bought by huge groups and corporations will get their parties nomination, example, George Bush and Al Gore.
<< Also making statements about al gore saying he invented the internet when al gore has never said that >>
Zucchini - What planet have you been living on?
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being a member of the leg and being part of the government are two different things there zucchini. gov of texas may be a relatively less powerful position than govs of other states that weren't raped during "reconstruction" but it still involves using the power of the gov't. and "about as much" means that it wasn't exact. hell, shrub was one of the front office guys at a successful baseball team, theres some more executive experience right there. now, before you try to say anything about the oil business: back when shrub had his company a lot of oilmen lost their shirts. while what happened when he exited is about as suspicious as gore's note accepting $100,000 for a tort veto, a lot of other oilmen lost their shirts that year too, good management or not.
<< al gore saying he invented the internet when al gore has never said that >>
The hell kind of drugs are you on? May I suggest you stop taking them.
tagej
Where was Cheney working in the private sector over the last 8 years? And who recommended him for the job?
It's payback time to the PUPPET MASTERS!
Where was Cheney working in the private sector over the last 8 years? And who recommended him for the job?
It's payback time to the PUPPET MASTERS!
ElFenix,
Bush's track record in the oil business is abysmal.
The only thing that saved him twice was firend of Daddy rescuing his failing companies.
Bush's track record in the oil business is abysmal.
The only thing that saved him twice was firend of Daddy rescuing his failing companies.
Gore didn't really say he invented the internet but his statement took to much credit for the internet when his effort was minimal compared to everything that had to happen for the internet to happen. Typical Gore though. Taking a lot of credit for something which he had little part in. :|
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hey dukeleto, in case you didn't notice, i addressed that, stating, quite matter-of-factly, that when bush was in the oil business everyone's track record was abyssmal. and i also noted how questionable his exit from spectrum was. please, feel free to read my post before replying.
"<< al gore saying he invented the internet when al gore has never said that >>
The hell kind of drugs are you on? May I suggest you stop taking them. "
Get a good reliable source(excluding rush limba) that shows he did say that. I don't think you could find it. What does this mean? Bush is a liar if the same standard is used.
The hell kind of drugs are you on? May I suggest you stop taking them. "
Get a good reliable source(excluding rush limba) that shows he did say that. I don't think you could find it. What does this mean? Bush is a liar if the same standard is used.
<< "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."--- Albert Gore on CNN?s "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer" (March 9, 1999). >>
Bwah
{edit} BTW - It's spelled "Rush Limbaugh"
Now to clarify.
"<< "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."--- Albert Gore on CNN?s "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer" (March 9, 1999). >>"
in·i·tia·tive (-nsh-tv)
n.
The power or ability to begin or to follow through energetically with a plan or task; enterprise and determination.
A beginning or introductory step; an opening move: took the initiative in trying to solve the problem.
The power or right to introduce a new legislative measure.
The right and procedure by which citizens can propose a law by petition and ensure its submission to the electorate.
Does it make more sense now? He did not say- I created the internet. Ofcourse you might want to use fuzzy reasoning so it suits your needs.
"<< "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."--- Albert Gore on CNN?s "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer" (March 9, 1999). >>"
in·i·tia·tive (-nsh-tv)
n.
The power or ability to begin or to follow through energetically with a plan or task; enterprise and determination.
A beginning or introductory step; an opening move: took the initiative in trying to solve the problem.
The power or right to introduce a new legislative measure.
The right and procedure by which citizens can propose a law by petition and ensure its submission to the electorate.
Does it make more sense now? He did not say- I created the internet. Ofcourse you might want to use fuzzy reasoning so it suits your needs.
Not only that... but Gore was asked to name some things he regreted. He said that saying he invented the internet was one of those things. I saw this with my own eyes.
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