Hmmm, Lieberman and Cheney ready to go at it ;)

[DanC]

Aw geez, it just got worse...

Lieberman - a scintillating 535 votes (7%)
Cheney - a miserable 6,780 (93%)

Cheney is in big trouble on this one.

 

[DanC]

You're reaching Red.

 

[MrChicken]

<<< Did you see William Buckley on tv last night? He bumbled and paused stalled in his answers too. >>


Are you comparing Bush to William Buckley? Give me a break. When Buckely speaks he might have inflections and pauses in his speech but it is obvious that he is not bumbling. On the contrary, it's like his mind is working so fast that he has to pause to proccess all the brilliance that is flowing. >>>

No, just saying you cant judge intellect by speech patterns. BTW, Mr Buckley did bumble through his sentences.

 

[Slap]

Will everyone be debating about how Bush looks after he appears once more on Letterman. He wouldn't agree to a debate on Letterman even though Al Gore did. As I recall, the first time Letterman had Bush on, Bush looked like a complete idiot. Gore on the other hand looked great and talked about real issues. I believe Letterman will once more have Bush fumbling all over again. Anyway, I wanted to change the topic.

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[DanC]

Yep -
And I believe that you've allowed your dislike of Mr. Bush to blur your perception of him. This is just my opinion.

Lieberman actually did pretty good for a liar. - I only brought up the blinking thing because people were jumping all over GW for what is perceived to be &quot;bumbling&quot; and &quot;stuttering&quot; -

Fact is, some folks think about what they're saying before, and while they're saying it. This can be perceived to be &quot;slow&quot; - when in reality - it may just be their style.

I fail to see the difference.

 

[JellyBaby]

As an independent I must again say these debates are a joke. Where were the VP candidates from the other parties? It seemed to me this was a nice presentation of our ?choice? between King and Queen.

That said I feel republicans can only gain from this VP debate. Democrats will be unaffected because they?re quick to overlook any and all flaws in character, policy and delivery (read that as ?Lieberman?). Independents might be lured into voting for Shrub/Cheney?I don?t see any going toward Bore/Bore(2).

Bottom line? Limited choice means yet again we get the shaft. Since I personally feel Shrub/Cheney would be better for the country overall, I can guarantee you that Bore/Bore(2) will win. My fellow americans always disappoint me during big election years. Trust me.

RD/DanC, all else being equal Bill Buckley Jr. is one of the brightest individuals I've ever heard and read. He just happens to be 167 years.

 

[Kanly]

For all you guys saying Lieberman flip-flopped:

I happen to remember the 1980 election.

A certain guy by the name of Reagan picked a man to be his VP by the name of George Herbert Walker Bush.

During the primaries, Bush was one of Reagan's most persistent critics.

Bush termed Reagan's economic policies &quot;Voodoo Economics.&quot;

Bush favored the ERA amendment, Reagan opposed it.

Bush was against a constitutional amendment prohibiting abortion, Reagan favored it.

Bush also had some strong criticisms of some of Reagan's foreign policy ideas.

Yet Reagan picked him to be his VP.

And at the end of eight years, Bush was regared by many, on both sides, to have been one of the most loyal VPs ever.

So, by your logic, Bush musta been one helluva flip-flopper.

 

[DanC]

Jelly pipes in with an intelligent, cognizant response.

The &quot;others&quot; aren't there because in the 2 party system, they don't have a snowballs' chance in hades.

Until we go to a direct popular vote - this is what we can expect in perpetuity.

 

[DanC]

<< Gore on the other hand looked great and talked about real issues >>



You wouldn't by any chance be a LIBERAL would you? :Q

 

[zippy]

DanC, well, I'm back at the computer. See, I don't live at mine.

Are you insanely drunk!?

Yeah, Vote.com is a real reliable source...a simple looping code will allow you to vote for one thing repetitively. Its not that hard to do.



<< Well... having settled the issue with the 15 year-old political genius... >>



DanC, I do other things than sit at my computer waiting for a come back.



<< Zippy - you are obviously a liberal idiot - and, a Shlemiel. >>



Hey, thats a good one. But you really don't know yiddish, any goisha cup knows those words. Its unfortunate because nothing beats an old Jewish grandmother (especially mine) saying, &quot;Oy vey!&quot; when she burns a potato kougal, yet &quot;Oy vey&quot; has become such a common phrase that its lost almost all of its meaning.

If I'm a liberal idiot than you are a conservative moron who cares more for his back pocket than the single mother of 4 whose husband was innocently shot in a bank robbery and who is now trying to support her family on just more than minimum wage. Think about someone other than yourself this coming election. As Al Gore said (yeah yeah yeah, I don't care if you don't agree with him), &quot;We can't leave anyone behind.&quot; Maybe he wasn't 100% sincere, but its true. We can't, if we do, what kind of society are we living in? Food for thought...

Though, DanC won't be doing any thinking, he's too busy drinking bathtub gin, scratching his ass, and calling people putzes and liberal idiots.

 

[MrChicken]

Jelly:
<As an independent I must again say these debates are a joke. Where were the VP candidates from the other parties? It seemed to me this was a nice presentation of our ?choice? between King and Queen.>
The problem with adding thrid party candidates to the debates is time. We get so little information now with just two debaters, adding 1 or two more would either extend the debate for another 90 minutes or limit the debate to just one or two topics.
Now that I typed that, I do think I would rather see three debates on two topics with 4 candidates, instead of three debates with the same two candidates discussing the same topics over and over.

I feel I should also add that I think that only candidates that garner 5% or more of the support should be allowed into the debates. Less than that I dont beleive they have any real chance at effecting the election. No if the independants really wanted to see a third party candidate in the debates, they could tell the pollsters they are for an independant, instead of being undecided. That may pump their numbers up enough to get them in the debates.

 

[ElFenix]

they got asked about real issues. they both talked about them. actually, gore would get asked about an issue, talk a sentence or two about it, then go on about social security or something.

 

[DanC]

<< whose husband was innocently shot in a bank robbery and who is now trying to support her family on just more than minimum wage. >>



What a crock of crap - You're STILL 15 years old, and still an idiot. - and a liberal.

 

[ElFenix]

oops, DP, two minutes apart. hows that one? anyway, uh...

 

[Slap]

DanC,

Actually that has nothing to do with it. Did you see the Letterman shows I am referring to? When Letterman asked Bush what he meant by &quot;He is going to unite and not divide&quot;, Bush said &quot;It means I will sew your chest up and not split it open&quot;. This was an attempt at a joke about Letterman's heart surgery. Gore on the other hand, when asked, would respond with real answers and not lame attampts at jokes. I am jsut saying that if Bush does not have answeres laid out in front of him, he can't come up with anything on his own. It is fact! The COKE has eaten through his sinuses into his brain and destroyed one to many brain cells. Maybe he will prove me wrong when he is back on Letterman later this month. A show like Letterman is where you see the real side to an individual and not some freaking rehearsed laid out speech.

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[ElFenix]

oh yeah, the only people on minimum wage are HIGH SCHOOLERS! so, uh, that would render your complaint null... and most of gore's anecdotes were false too.

 

[ElFenix]

slap- you really think the most faked man on the planet can come up with stuff off the top of his head? thats a big no. he has all this stuff memorized. hell, he even has to act at not being stiff, he can't be casual. and those comments about &quot;real issues&quot; are stuff that are well memorized, and were probably just elements from his stump speech.

 

[DanC]

Sorry - I don't watch television... with the possible exception of the debates, and the occasional city council meeting.

Letterman? - no comment.

Zippy? - no further comment.

 

[zippy]

<< Yep -
And I believe that you've allowed your dislike of Mr. Bush to blur your perception of him. This is just my opinion.

Lieberman actually did pretty good for a liar. - I only brought up the blinking thing because people were jumping all over GW for what is perceived to be &quot;bumbling&quot; and &quot;stuttering&quot; -

Fact is, some folks think about what they're saying before, and while they're saying it. This can be perceived to be &quot;slow&quot; - when in reality - it may just be their style.

I fail to see the difference. >>



You seem quite hypocritical DanC (though I was too by bashing you for bashing others...or maybe I didn't do something hypocritical...I don't really have the time to check right now). YOU seem to have allowed your dislike of DEMOCRATS blur your perception of EVERYTHING. This is just my opinion.

Lieberman is not a liar. Even your fellow Republicans will tell you that. If you can find a Republican that does not have the utmost respect for Lieberman I do a cyber ass kissing of you.

How is blinking the same as bumbling? Blinking is a physical reaction to stimuli, bumbling is an effect of idiocy.

Why wouldn't Bush have PREPARED any for a NATIONALLY TELEVISED debate with his opponent?!?! Bush and Gore each prepared equally, however, Gore is more intelligent, has more confidence in himself, and is a better speaker (something you want to have when negotiating peace and trade agreements with foreign countries!!!).

I admit, Cheney didn't come across as so bad, in fact, I think he &quot;won&quot; the debate, but he is VP, the true &quot;power&quot; goes to the President, and don't trust Bush with such a responsibility. He doesn't have nearly enough experience either.

EDIT:



<< What a crock of crap - You're STILL 15 years old, and still an idiot. - and a liberal. >>



Where are you pulling my age out of?! Please at least EXPLAIN your backing of the little Shrubbery. So maybe I'm liberal, you are too conservative then. BTW, you are quite compassionate. Especially considering stuff like that happens daily, though, you probably don't care to watch the news, read the newspaper, etc. because you are too busy drinking Nyquil milkshakes in your parents' basement writing death threats to Al Gore and love poems about George W.

 

[Tripleshot]

He got you DanC


Zippy--Can I have your autograph? LMAO

 

[ElFenix]

gore isn't more intelligent, bush just has a thick tongue and a hard time enounciating. neither of them are world-class intellects, or anywhere near it. they're politicians, and their goal is to get elected, so they pander. the blinking of lieberman was probably because he was nervous. i doubt hes been in the national spotlight much, where as cheney has been.

 

[ElFenix]

and bush has about as much experience as clinton did when clinton ran, and i bet you wouldn't have held that against him.

 

[Slap]

We will all see come the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November.

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[pidge]

I am more concerned about their policies than how eloquent their words are.

Gore - &quot;You ain't seen nothing yet&quot;. That is what I am afraid of. :Q

 

[zippy]

I have to get some sleep. I'll reply to more of DanC's idiocy, ignorance, and lack of elaboration tomorrow after classes.