Hibiscus tea, doesn't contain tea?

[lxskllr]

Tea upsets my stomach if I drink it in the same quantities I drink coffee. Too many tannins probably.

 

[pmv]

Tea is hot water with grass in it. I tend to improve tea by dumping it out and then replacing it with tap water, coffee, or beer.

Tea's perfectly OK, but I do prefer coffee. Both seem to constantly be found to be good or bad for you in new ways in endless scientific studies. On the whole the 'good' seems to be ahead of the 'bad'.

 

[Torn Mind]

Apparently for me, I think COVID ended any chance of me drinking anything with caffeine, including tea.

Bought a box of organic Newman's Green Tea bags years ago, it's caffeinated because the decaf process scared me away.

Tried to get into a routine of drinking it everyday for teeth health reasons but it made me feel like garbage and I just stopped.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Tried to get into a routine of drinking it everyday for teeth health reasons but it made me feel like garbage and I just stopped.

That's the wrong way to use it if your intent was just for good oral health. Let it cool and then take a sip and swish it around your mouth as long as you like and spit it into some bucket or other disposable container. Out go bacteria and their dead carcasses. The natural flouride in green tea will kill the bacteria.

 

[Torn Mind]

That's the wrong way to use it if your intent was just for good oral health. Let it cool and then take a sip and swish it around your mouth as long as you like and spit it into some bucket or other disposable container. Out go bacteria and their dead carcasses. The natural flouride in green tea will kill the bacteria.

There are other supposed health benefits to green tea and also, I'm not the type to waste food by just spitting it out(some Asian upbringing effects there. You know, the every last bit of rice must be eaten off the plate attitude)

I used to respond to caffeine just like anyone else, as a mild simulant I'm probably still addicted to although the only time I really consumed it regularly was before being a teenager and a couple weeks of red Bull in the finals period of college. But now it just makes me feel like garbage and out of sorts.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I'm not the type to waste food by just spitting it out(some Asian upbringing effects there. You know, the every last bit of rice must be eaten off the plate attitude)

Pick up some really cheap low quality green tea bags. These have very high fluoride levels and would be bad for your bones if you ingest the tea so spitting it out would be the better idea.

 

[IronWing]

Tea is hot water with grass in it. I tend to improve tea by dumping it out and then replacing it with tap water, coffee, or beer.

While tea isn’t my favorite beverage it is in every way better than coffee or beer. At least beer gets you drunk; coffee just gives you bad breath.

 

[Torn Mind]

Pick up some really cheap low quality green tea bags. These have very high fluoride levels and would be bad for your bones if you ingest the tea so spitting it out would be the better idea.

I buy stannous flouride toothpaste.

I actually don't have a cavity problem, just a gum recession problem.

 

[igor_kavinski]

just a gum recession problem.

Why haven't you tried OraMD yet?

Also https://www.robinafamilydental.com.au/blog/herbs-and-gingival-health-19465.html

Myrrh is antibacterial so it kills the harmful oral bacteria that comes from plaque build up. It also increases blood flow to the soft tissue in the mouth. With increased blood flow, gums will heal faster as the blood brings white blood cells to repair damaged tissue and fight off viruses and bacteria.

It also relieves toothache and can be used to prevent gum disease and cavities. Like Goldenseal (which gets its own entry below), it also helps reduce gum recession and mouth sores. Myrrh is a herbal treasure trove.

Goldenseal

Use this herb especially for use on gums. Like most of the other herbs on this list, its anti-inflammatory and antibacterial properties make it ideal to fight against gingivitis. It also reduces gum recession and even helps with mouth sores and thrush.

Oregon grape root, prickly ash bark and sage also help tighten the gums.

Yerba Mansa

A new up-and-comer, heralded as the next echinacea, yerba mansa is anti-plaque and great for fighting against gum recession. It’s also got all the right ‘a’ words: antiseptic, antifungal, and astringent.

 

[zinfamous]

Maybe it doesn't have an effect on you? I've noticed that two cups of unsweetened tea take me out of my sleepy stupor and also trigger some nice bowel purge.

coffee is vastly superior to grass water in inducing both of these effects

 

[zinfamous]

While tea isn’t my favorite beverage it is in every way better than coffee or beer. At least beer gets you drunk; coffee just gives you bad breath.

And the colon purge!

 

[igor_kavinski]

coffee is vastly superior to grass water in inducing both of these effects

True but it makes me irritable. I've had some very embarrassing outbursts at work after drinking coffee. I drink it rarely when I really really need my mind to be awake at all costs.

 

[Torn Mind]

Why haven't you tried OraMD yet?

Also https://www.robinafamilydental.com.au/blog/herbs-and-gingival-health-19465.html

That products seems really heavy on the budget. I mean, I'd consider paying out of pocket for chlorhexidine or iodine-based products first over it.

I've tried my best to maintain the above-gum health but ultimately, I'm going to need treatment under the gumline and availability at NIH is finally about to open up for four sessions soon.

I use a waterpik a lot and brush after every meal.

 

[igor_kavinski]

That products seems really heavy on the budget.

You can make your own cheaply by combining almond oil as a carrier oil and putting relatively smaller amounts of peppermint and spearmint oils in that. Small amount is important because those mint oils sting!

 

[sandorski]

Tea upsets my stomach if I drink it in the same quantities I drink coffee. Too many tannins probably.

I can only tolerate it after Dinner. Breakfast Tea makes no sense to me and gives me horrible cramps. Like the taste, but as a source of Caffeine no thanks, I'll stick with Coffee.

 

[Captante]

Pick up some really cheap low quality green tea bags. These have very high fluoride levels and would be bad for your bones if you ingest the tea so spitting it out would be the better idea.

Seriously bro.... where do you come up with this stuff?

Credible source please?

EVERYTHING I've seen that's SCIENCE-BASED says the exact opposite.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Seriously bro.... where do you come up with this stuff?

Fluoride In Green Tea Harmful? | Dental & Oral Health | Andrew Weil, M.D.

Both green and black tea contain fluoride, although green tea contains twice the amount found in black. Dr. Weil believes the concerns about fluoride in tea are overblown. Learn why:

www.drweil.com

Both green and black tea contain fluoride, although green tea contains twice the amount found in black. However, I wouldn’t worry about the fluoride you get from either type of tea because even with green tea, the amount that people drink is unlikely to supply enough fluoride to reach toxic levels. About 50 percent of fluoride (from any source) is deposited in the bone and teeth; the other half is excreted.

So if you are drinking 4 to 5 cups of green tea a day (recommended amount), you are getting twice the amount of fluoride deposited in your bones. Fluoride makes the bones brittle and easy to fracture. You would only find out about it in old age.

Fluoride and Your Bones: A Mixed Bag | Winchester Hospital

Could drinking fluoridated water help keep your bones strong? Or could it increase your risk for a fracture? Here's what the experts have to say.

www.winchesterhospital.org

The Paradox of Fluoride and Bone Density

Fluoride has been shown to increase the number of cells that build bone. From the 1950s through the 1980s, sodium fluoride was often suggested as a treatment for osteoporosis. However, in the 1980s, Mayo Clinic researchers discovered, during controlled trials involving postmenopausal women, that fluoride increased bone mineral density but also increased the incidence of fractures, especially in the lower extremities.

So let the researchers argue what they want. I'm not gonna drink 4 or 5 cups of green tea a day and I would rather use green tea as a mouthwash. I try my best to err on the side of caution.

 

[quikah]

Hmm, 25gs of sugar in bottle based on one of the review images.

Coke certainly deviated from Honest Tea's original intentions and basically made another insulin-release product.

meh, not really. Honest Tea has always had sugar in it, just less than the usual snapple/arizona equivalents which have ~40g for the same size. Most of their regular tea products have less sugar in it, ~15-18g. They have an unsweetened product if you really want it. Anyway, they are being discontinued at the end of the year, so get it while you can.

Not a big tea drinker. Occasionally will order an ice tea (unsweet) when out or I will drink a can of Ito En green tea or whatever tea they have at a Chinese restaurant.

 

[igor_kavinski]

A tea that requires a lot of work, Pink Tea: https://www.teaforturmeric.com/20-minute-kashmiri-chai-pink-tea/

I tried it from a shop here. It wasn't bad.

 

[hrsetrdr]

It soothes my brain inflamation / infection when I drink tea, but I'm not feeling the relief with this hibiscus "tea". I feel ripped off.

Are you under medical treatment for that? Sounds pretty serious, and beyond the reach for treatment by self medication.

 

[Captante]

Fluoride In Green Tea Harmful? | Dental & Oral Health | Andrew Weil, M.D.

Both green and black tea contain fluoride, although green tea contains twice the amount found in black. Dr. Weil believes the concerns about fluoride in tea are overblown. Learn why:

www.drweil.com

So if you are drinking 4 to 5 cups of green tea a day (recommended amount), you are getting twice the amount of fluoride deposited in your bones. Fluoride makes the bones brittle and easy to fracture. You would only find out about it in old age.

Fluoride and Your Bones: A Mixed Bag | Winchester Hospital

Could drinking fluoridated water help keep your bones strong? Or could it increase your risk for a fracture? Here's what the experts have to say.

www.winchesterhospital.org

So let the researchers argue what they want. I'm not gonna drink 4 or 5 cups of green tea a day and I would rather use green tea as a mouthwash. I try my best to err on the side of caution.

That clown you cited as a "source" works for a marketing agency.... you even aware of that fact? (Healthy Lifestyle Brands LLC)

Crazy me I'll stick with those wacky researchers and scientists ROTFL .... I don't get my medical/nutritional information from advertisers.

You seem like a decent dude but from this point forward your dietary/health "advice" credibility notches in well BELOW @Torn Mind with me.

 

[igor_kavinski]

That clown

I thought him being an M.D. would be enough for you

 

[Captante]

I thought him being an M.D. would be enough for you

Q: What do you call the guy who graduates last from the worst medical school on the face of the earth?

A: Doctor.

All a degree does with me is get ones "foot in the door".... I've known PLENTY of id10t's with doctorates and/or advanced degrees on their resumes.


(for your own sake vet your sources more carefully!)

 

[Torn Mind]

I do recall reading recent information and research calling concerns regarding fluoride

Naturally, this is also met with resistance by the pro-dental lobby and the "general lay mindset" but I think the case is good enough to not warrant immediate dismissal of the fluoride danger camp.

The Fluoride Debate: The Pros and Cons of Fluoridation

Fluoride is one of the most abundant elements found in nature. Water is the major dietary source of fluoride. The only known association with low fluoride intake is the risk of dental caries. Initially, fluoride was considered beneficial when given systemically ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Concurrently, recent opposition has been growing worldwide against fluoridation, emphasizing the potential and serious risk of toxicity.

The prevalence of caries is in part due to the influence of industries that benefit from propagating "The Diet", which includes big food, big agri, dentistry as a whole, and laypeople's trust in that determination. The "let people eat too much shit" and then toss in treated water to slow the process of eating too much shit is considerably advantageous for the pursuit of profits in those industries and the obsolescence-dependent occupation of dentistry.

Insulin is a helluva hormone. Appetite expansion and addiction to its release. The meat in a McDonald's burger is questionable, to oil likely too old, but it is the bread that expands the appetite so more is eaten.

 

[Captante]

I do recall reading recent information and research calling concerns regarding fluoride

Naturally, this is also met with resistance by the pro-dental lobby and the "general lay mindset" but I think the case is good enough to not warrant immediate dismissal of the fluoride danger camp.

The Fluoride Debate: The Pros and Cons of Fluoridation

Fluoride is one of the most abundant elements found in nature. Water is the major dietary source of fluoride. The only known association with low fluoride intake is the risk of dental caries. Initially, fluoride was considered beneficial when given systemically ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The prevalence of caries is in part due to the influence of industries that benefit from propagating "The Diet", which includes big food, big agri, dentistry as a whole, and laypeople's trust in that determination. The "let people eat too much shit" and then toss in treated water to slow the process of eating too much shit is considerably advantageous for the pursuit of profits in those industries and the obsolescence-dependent occupation of dentistry.

Insulin is a helluva hormone. Appetite expansion and addiction to its release. The meat in a McDonald's burger is questionable, to oil likely too old, but it is the bread that expands the appetite so more is eaten.

If you want to debate the merits of adding fluoride to drinking water that's at least a conversation worth having.... debating adding it to toothpaste is a stretch though as there are MOUNTAINS of evidence supporting its use.

Further ALL the credible research I've seen on green tea shows that it either helps BUILD bone-density in older people or at worst has zero effect on it.

Medical misinformation sucks.