Hey Nancy.........WTF are you doing???

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Glenn Beck & Brigitte Gabriel


If you aren't familiar with Brigitte Gabriel.........she's more of an American than half of the folks living here today and she wasn't even born here.:thumbsup:

I fear that our foreign policy is just outta' hand. I'm not a Bush lover or hater and I hope to God we get somebody better in office, but I'm almost afraid of the situation getting worse!!

Is Mrs. Bill Clinton the answer?? Rudy?? Fonzi??
 

OutHouse

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she has no business going over there, none, nada... she is the speaker of the house she is not a diplomat of foreign relation. she totally over stepped her bounds and stamped on the office of the president and i dont care who is in office. she was wrong and should be thrown out period.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Citrix
she has no business going over there, none, nada... she is the speaker of the house she is not a diplomat of foreign relation. she totally over stepped her bounds and stamped on the office of the president and i dont care who is in office. she was wrong and should be thrown out period.

That all may be true but how can she do any worse the administration of the last 7 years???
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: Citrix
she has no business going over there, none, nada... she is the speaker of the house she is not a diplomat of foreign relation. she totally over stepped her bounds and stamped on the office of the president and i dont care who is in office. she was wrong and should be thrown out period.

Agreed. Pelosi should be stripped of her speakership. She was not elected to be Secretary of State or Ambassador to Syria (or anywhere else). It's a total disgrace.
 

ProfJohn

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The Washington Post has a nice editorial about this today.
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Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) offered an excellent demonstration yesterday of why members of Congress should not attempt to supplant the secretary of state when traveling abroad. After a meeting with Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad in Damascus, Ms. Pelosi announced that she had delivered a message from Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that "Israel was ready to engage in peace talks" with Syria. What's more, she added, Mr. Assad was ready to "resume the peace process" as well. Having announced this seeming diplomatic breakthrough, Ms. Pelosi suggested that her Kissingerian shuttle diplomacy was just getting started. "We expressed our interest in using our good offices in promoting peace between Israel and Syria," she said.

Only one problem: The Israeli prime minister entrusted Ms. Pelosi with no such message. "What was communicated to the U.S. House Speaker does not contain any change in the policies of Israel," said a statement quickly issued by the prime minister's office. In fact, Mr. Olmert told Ms. Pelosi that "a number of Senate and House members who recently visited Damascus received the impression that despite the declarations of Bashar Assad, there is no change in the position of his country regarding a possible peace process with Israel." In other words, Ms. Pelosi not only misrepresented Israel's position but was virtually alone in failing to discern that Mr. Assad's words were mere propaganda.

Ms. Pelosi was criticized by President Bush for visiting Damascus at a time when the administration -- rightly or wrongly -- has frozen high-level contacts with Syria. Mr. Bush said that thanks to the speaker's freelancing Mr. Assad was getting mixed messages from the United States. Ms. Pelosi responded by pointing out that Republican congressmen had visited Syria without drawing presidential censure. That's true enough -- but those other congressmen didn't try to introduce a new U.S. diplomatic initiative in the Middle East. "We came in friendship, hope, and determined that the road to Damascus is a road to peace," Ms. Pelosi grandly declared.

Never mind that that statement is ludicrous: As any diplomat with knowledge of the region could have told Ms. Pelosi, Mr. Assad is a corrupt thug whose overriding priority at the moment is not peace with Israel but heading off U.N. charges that he orchestrated the murder of former Lebanese prime minister Rafiq al-Hariri. The really striking development here is the attempt by a Democratic congressional leader to substitute her own foreign policy for that of a sitting Republican president. Two weeks ago Ms. Pelosi rammed legislation through the House of Representatives that would strip Mr. Bush of his authority as commander in chief to manage troop movements in Iraq. Now she is attempting to introduce a new Middle East policy that directly conflicts with that of the president. We have found much to criticize in Mr. Bush's military strategy and regional diplomacy. But Ms. Pelosi's attempt to establish a shadow presidency is not only counterproductive, it is foolish.
The words coming out of Nancy's mouth show that she has no understanding of diplomacy at all.
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Citrix
she has no business going over there, none, nada... she is the speaker of the house she is not a diplomat of foreign relation. she totally over stepped her bounds and stamped on the office of the president and i dont care who is in office. she was wrong and should be thrown out period.

That all may be true but how can she do any worse the administration of the last 7 years???

I dont know that, but i do know she hates bush with a passion prob more than you :p the point is she doenst have to like bush at all but she should show a lot more respect for the office of the President.
 

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Citrix
she has no business going over there, none, nada... she is the speaker of the house she is not a diplomat of foreign relation. she totally over stepped her bounds and stamped on the office of the president and i dont care who is in office. she was wrong and should be thrown out period.

That all may be true but how can she do any worse the administration of the last 7 years???

Uh... yes?
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Citrix
she has no business going over there, none, nada... she is the speaker of the house she is not a diplomat of foreign relation. she totally over stepped her bounds and stamped on the office of the president and i dont care who is in office. she was wrong and should be thrown out period.

That all may be true but how can she do any worse the administration of the last 7 years???

I dont know that, but i do know she hates bush with a passion prob more than you :p the point is she doenst have to like bush at all but she should show a lot more respect for the office of the President.

Well IMO Clinton showed more respect for the Office getting a Blow Job under it than what Bush has done.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Citrix
she has no business going over there, none, nada... she is the speaker of the house she is not a diplomat of foreign relation. she totally over stepped her bounds and stamped on the office of the president and i dont care who is in office. she was wrong and should be thrown out period.

That all may be true but how can she do any worse the administration of the last 7 years???
Her false statements about what Israel and Syria said can undermine American resolve when it comes to dealing with Syria.

The Bush hating folks in this country will hear what she says and think ?wow we can really talk to these guys?
Reality is that we can?t talk to or trust Syria in any way shape or form. And pretending like we can presents a false message to the people of America and the world.
 

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Originally posted by: Citrix
she has no business going over there, none, nada... she is the speaker of the house she is not a diplomat of foreign relation. she totally over stepped her bounds and stamped on the office of the president and i dont care who is in office. she was wrong and should be thrown out period.

She has as much of a right to go over there as did the 3 REPUBLICAN Congressman that Bush didn't think were a problem.

Her only fault was trying to score political points at home by abusing her visit overseas. In other words her entire mission was to embarras the adminstration but instead as usual she embarrassed herself.
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Citrix
she has no business going over there, none, nada... she is the speaker of the house she is not a diplomat of foreign relation. she totally over stepped her bounds and stamped on the office of the president and i dont care who is in office. she was wrong and should be thrown out period.

That all may be true but how can she do any worse the administration of the last 7 years???

I dont know that, but i do know she hates bush with a passion prob more than you :p the point is she doenst have to like bush at all but she should show a lot more respect for the office of the President.

Well IMO Clinton showed more respect for the Office getting a Blow Job under it than what Bush has done.

This isnt about Clinton vs Bush you finger-pointing-thread-derailing-ass.

It's no suprise Pelosi is doing this. Had people actually looked at her voting record in Cali, this should come as no supise. Right in line, actually.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Citrix
she has no business going over there, none, nada... she is the speaker of the house she is not a diplomat of foreign relation. she totally over stepped her bounds and stamped on the office of the president and i dont care who is in office. she was wrong and should be thrown out period.

That all may be true but how can she do any worse the administration of the last 7 years???
Her false statements about what Israel and Syria said can undermine American resolve when it comes to dealing with Syria.

The Bush hating folks in this country will hear what she says and think ?wow we can really talk to these guys?
Reality is that we can?t talk to or trust Syria in any way shape or form. And pretending like we can presents a false message to the people of America and the world.
Well if you sit back and just make empty threats like the Dub has done all you're going to do is antagonize them. I don't no what this administration is so afraid of, talking to them might help or ot might not but I don't believe there's any harm in trying, besides what this Administration has done so far obvioulsy has failed miserably.
 

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Citrix
she has no business going over there, none, nada... she is the speaker of the house she is not a diplomat of foreign relation. she totally over stepped her bounds and stamped on the office of the president and i dont care who is in office. she was wrong and should be thrown out period.

That all may be true but how can she do any worse the administration of the last 7 years???
Her false statements about what Israel and Syria said can undermine American resolve when it comes to dealing with Syria.

The Bush hating folks in this country will hear what she says and think ?wow we can really talk to these guys?
Reality is that we can?t talk to or trust Syria in any way shape or form. And pretending like we can presents a false message to the people of America and the world.

That, and i do believe that the Consitution states that ONLY the Executive branch is to carry out foreign policy, she has no business going over there and speaking about anything political, she is undermining our whole system and should be kicked out of office.

Don't start with the Bush bashing, the current administration has not been good, but this undermines the foundation of our country.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: k1pp3r
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Citrix
she has no business going over there, none, nada... she is the speaker of the house she is not a diplomat of foreign relation. she totally over stepped her bounds and stamped on the office of the president and i dont care who is in office. she was wrong and should be thrown out period.

That all may be true but how can she do any worse the administration of the last 7 years???
Her false statements about what Israel and Syria said can undermine American resolve when it comes to dealing with Syria.

The Bush hating folks in this country will hear what she says and think ?wow we can really talk to these guys?
Reality is that we can?t talk to or trust Syria in any way shape or form. And pretending like we can presents a false message to the people of America and the world.

That, and i do believe that the Consitution states that ONLY the Executive branch is to carry out foreign policy, she has no business going over there and speaking about anything political, she is undermining our whole system and should be kicked out of office.

Don't start with the Bush bashing, the current administration has not been good, but this undermines the foundation of our country.
:roll: Give me a break, all she can do is talk to them to get a sense of what they think. It will help to understand the Arab point of view and I believe more Lawmakers should be doing this along with making visits to Iran.
I think she doing a good job going over there and I think more American Law Makers should do the same thing, that also goes for Iran. If they just
 

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I dont know about undermining our country but she definitely is blurring the lines of government. She is trying to do the job of SECSTATE and thats not good. She was in the middle of quite an entertaining road trip until she opened her mouth. She should have just smiled for the cameras.
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: k1pp3r
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Citrix
she has no business going over there, none, nada... she is the speaker of the house she is not a diplomat of foreign relation. she totally over stepped her bounds and stamped on the office of the president and i dont care who is in office. she was wrong and should be thrown out period.

That all may be true but how can she do any worse the administration of the last 7 years???
Her false statements about what Israel and Syria said can undermine American resolve when it comes to dealing with Syria.

The Bush hating folks in this country will hear what she says and think ?wow we can really talk to these guys?
Reality is that we can?t talk to or trust Syria in any way shape or form. And pretending like we can presents a false message to the people of America and the world.

That, and i do believe that the Consitution states that ONLY the Executive branch is to carry out foreign policy, she has no business going over there and speaking about anything political, she is undermining our whole system and should be kicked out of office.

Don't start with the Bush bashing, the current administration has not been good, but this undermines the foundation of our country.
:roll: Give me a break, all she can do is talk to them to get a sense of what they think. It will help to understand the Arab point of view and I believe more Lawmakers should be doing this along with making visits to Iran.
I think she doing a good job going over there and I think more American Law Makers should do the same thing, that also goes for Iran. If they just

I totally agree. But to visit a country known to harbor the worst terrorists? It really doesnt make OUR gov't look good.

Terrorist support by proxy?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: k1pp3r
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Citrix
she has no business going over there, none, nada... she is the speaker of the house she is not a diplomat of foreign relation. she totally over stepped her bounds and stamped on the office of the president and i dont care who is in office. she was wrong and should be thrown out period.

That all may be true but how can she do any worse the administration of the last 7 years???
Her false statements about what Israel and Syria said can undermine American resolve when it comes to dealing with Syria.

The Bush hating folks in this country will hear what she says and think ?wow we can really talk to these guys?
Reality is that we can?t talk to or trust Syria in any way shape or form. And pretending like we can presents a false message to the people of America and the world.

That, and i do believe that the Consitution states that ONLY the Executive branch is to carry out foreign policy, she has no business going over there and speaking about anything political, she is undermining our whole system and should be kicked out of office.

Don't start with the Bush bashing, the current administration has not been good, but this undermines the foundation of our country.
:roll: Give me a break, all she can do is talk to them to get a sense of what they think. It will help to understand the Arab point of view and I believe more Lawmakers should be doing this along with making visits to Iran.
I think she doing a good job going over there and I think more American Law Makers should do the same thing, that also goes for Iran. If they just

I totally agree. But to visit a country known to harbor the worst terrorists? It really doesnt make OUR gov't look good.
Our Governments own actions or inactions is what makes it not look good. Pelosi couldn't possibly make them look worse than they already do. At best all she is doing is confirming how pitiful this Administrations Foriegn Policies are.

 

k1pp3r

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: k1pp3r
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Citrix
she has no business going over there, none, nada... she is the speaker of the house she is not a diplomat of foreign relation. she totally over stepped her bounds and stamped on the office of the president and i dont care who is in office. she was wrong and should be thrown out period.

That all may be true but how can she do any worse the administration of the last 7 years???
Her false statements about what Israel and Syria said can undermine American resolve when it comes to dealing with Syria.

The Bush hating folks in this country will hear what she says and think ?wow we can really talk to these guys?
Reality is that we can?t talk to or trust Syria in any way shape or form. And pretending like we can presents a false message to the people of America and the world.

That, and i do believe that the Consitution states that ONLY the Executive branch is to carry out foreign policy, she has no business going over there and speaking about anything political, she is undermining our whole system and should be kicked out of office.

Don't start with the Bush bashing, the current administration has not been good, but this undermines the foundation of our country.
:roll: Give me a break, all she can do is talk to them to get a sense of what they think. It will help to understand the Arab point of view and I believe more Lawmakers should be doing this along with making visits to Iran.
I think she doing a good job going over there and I think more American Law Makers should do the same thing, that also goes for Iran. If they just

I totally agree. But to visit a country known to harbor the worst terrorists? It really doesnt make OUR gov't look good.
Our Governments own actions or inactions is what makes it not look good. Pelosi couldn't possibly make them look worse than they already do. At best all she is doing is confirming how pitiful this Administrations Foriegn Policies are.

Foreign policy is NOT her place, she can have her opinion but that opinion should NOT be expressed to any other country. Bottom line, she is out of the realm of her job.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Shivetya
She has as much of a right to go over there as did the 3 REPUBLICAN Congressman that Bush and the resident Republicans didn't think were a problem.

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Citrix
she has no business going over there, none, nada... she is the speaker of the house she is not a diplomat of foreign relation. she totally over stepped her bounds and stamped on the office of the president and i dont care who is in office. she was wrong and should be thrown out period.

That all may be true but how can she do any worse the administration of the last 7 years???

Her false statements about what Israel and Syria said can undermine American resolve when it comes to dealing with Syria.

Her false statements???

What about "WMD", "Mission Accomplished", "Last Throes"??? :confused:
 

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So, uh, where were all these calls from Republicans for Bush to be thrown out of office when he absolutely, completely, and unambiguously lied about everything in Iraq? Nevermind that his decisions caused infinitely more damage than whatever Pelosi says. I'd say he disgraced the office of the President more than anyone else could have dreamed.
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: Aisengard
So, uh, where were all these calls from Republicans for Bush to be thrown out of office when he absolutely, completely, and unambiguously lied about everything in Iraq? Nevermind that his decisions caused infinitely more damage than whatever Pelosi says. I'd say he disgraced the office of the President more than anyone else could have dreamed.

Well, this board is full of finger pointing to Bush (in most cases rightfully so); however, lets not go down this road of "throwing hom out of office" again. Despite all the whining, the bottom line is he has done NOTHING impeachable. Big difference. Lets move on shall we?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: k1pp3r
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: k1pp3r
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Citrix
she has no business going over there, none, nada... she is the speaker of the house she is not a diplomat of foreign relation. she totally over stepped her bounds and stamped on the office of the president and i dont care who is in office. she was wrong and should be thrown out period.

That all may be true but how can she do any worse the administration of the last 7 years???
Her false statements about what Israel and Syria said can undermine American resolve when it comes to dealing with Syria.

The Bush hating folks in this country will hear what she says and think ?wow we can really talk to these guys?
Reality is that we can?t talk to or trust Syria in any way shape or form. And pretending like we can presents a false message to the people of America and the world.

That, and i do believe that the Consitution states that ONLY the Executive branch is to carry out foreign policy, she has no business going over there and speaking about anything political, she is undermining our whole system and should be kicked out of office.

Don't start with the Bush bashing, the current administration has not been good, but this undermines the foundation of our country.
:roll: Give me a break, all she can do is talk to them to get a sense of what they think. It will help to understand the Arab point of view and I believe more Lawmakers should be doing this along with making visits to Iran.
I think she doing a good job going over there and I think more American Law Makers should do the same thing, that also goes for Iran. If they just

I totally agree. But to visit a country known to harbor the worst terrorists? It really doesnt make OUR gov't look good.
Our Governments own actions or inactions is what makes it not look good. Pelosi couldn't possibly make them look worse than they already do. At best all she is doing is confirming how pitiful this Administrations Foriegn Policies are.

Foreign policy is NOT her place, she can have her opinion but that opinion should NOT be expressed to any other country. Bottom line, she is out of the realm of her job.
No she isn't. As a representitve she should doing exactly what she should be doing.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: Aisengard
So, uh, where were all these calls from Republicans for Bush to be thrown out of office when he absolutely, completely, and unambiguously lied about everything in Iraq? Nevermind that his decisions caused infinitely more damage than whatever Pelosi says. I'd say he disgraced the office of the President more than anyone else could have dreamed.
If that is true then how come I have never heard one elected official accuse him of lying nor have I read anything in the New York Times or WaPa saying that everything he said pre-war was an outright lie.

The only people who believe what he said about Iraq and WMD/terrorists was an outright lie are the anti-Bush left.
 

k1pp3r

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: k1pp3r
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: k1pp3r
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Citrix
she has no business going over there, none, nada... she is the speaker of the house she is not a diplomat of foreign relation. she totally over stepped her bounds and stamped on the office of the president and i dont care who is in office. she was wrong and should be thrown out period.

That all may be true but how can she do any worse the administration of the last 7 years???
Her false statements about what Israel and Syria said can undermine American resolve when it comes to dealing with Syria.

The Bush hating folks in this country will hear what she says and think ?wow we can really talk to these guys?
Reality is that we can?t talk to or trust Syria in any way shape or form. And pretending like we can presents a false message to the people of America and the world.

That, and i do believe that the Consitution states that ONLY the Executive branch is to carry out foreign policy, she has no business going over there and speaking about anything political, she is undermining our whole system and should be kicked out of office.

Don't start with the Bush bashing, the current administration has not been good, but this undermines the foundation of our country.
:roll: Give me a break, all she can do is talk to them to get a sense of what they think. It will help to understand the Arab point of view and I believe more Lawmakers should be doing this along with making visits to Iran.
I think she doing a good job going over there and I think more American Law Makers should do the same thing, that also goes for Iran. If they just

I totally agree. But to visit a country known to harbor the worst terrorists? It really doesnt make OUR gov't look good.
Our Governments own actions or inactions is what makes it not look good. Pelosi couldn't possibly make them look worse than they already do. At best all she is doing is confirming how pitiful this Administrations Foriegn Policies are.

Foreign policy is NOT her place, she can have her opinion but that opinion should NOT be expressed to any other country. Bottom line, she is out of the realm of her job.
No she isn't. As a representitve she should doing exactly what she should be doing.

It is the Executive branch's job to conduct foreign policy, not a congressional power.
 

ayabe

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"It's one thing for other members to go," Boehner said, "but you have to ask yourself, 'Why is Pelosi going?' She's going for one reason and that is to embarrass the president. She is the speaker of the House. She's giving (the Syrian) government more credit than they deserve. They sponsor terrorism. They have not been at all helpful. I wish she wasn't there."

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I guess it's good to focus on things other than how corrupt the Administration is right?

Pot meet kettle, this is a big story about nothing. There are far more important thing for you crybabies to focus on.