Hey IT Guys ... KNOCK IT OFF!!!!!

[MrSquished]

There's a subreddit r/assholedesign

A lot of it is about web and mobile app design

Enjoy

 

[Charmonium]

I have an old Logitech gaming mouse and, as is my experience with a few very old Logi apps, the programmability aspect of it only sort of works. Deep breath.

So, I have wheel-button click to cntl-r to hard-refresh in Chrome.

 

[Captante]

I have an old Logitech gaming mouse and, as is my experience with a few very old Logi apps, the programmability aspect of it only sort of works. Deep breath.

So, I have wheel-button click to cntl-r to hard-refresh in Chrome.

I have an old Microsoft optical "Intelli-Mouse" that flat-out refuses to enable any of the buttons other then R/L click and the scroll-wheel without it's crappy "Intelli-Point" app installed. (it has forward/back thumb buttons)

The app version that supports it WILL NOT install in any version of Windows newer then XP and MS has no plans to update it. At least Logitech mice work fine with Windows built-in drivers.

Due to it hardly ever being used that POS is in near-mint condition too.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Vivaldi just updated a couple of weeks ago and now they want another one.

Same with my tablet.

There ougtha' be a law!!!!

 

[sdifox]

Vivaldi just updated a couple of weeks ago and now they want another one.

Same with my tablet.

There ougtha' be a law!!!!

Security update is a good thing no? You can turn off auto update and even update checks.

 

[Captante]

Just install the last official version of Netscape... you'll never need to worry about an update again!

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

^^^ I HAVE the latest version of NS ... it's called SeaMonkey now and it works fine, unless some codeheaded twit of an IT twat decides they want to tell me which browser to use ... which oughta' be ILLEAGAL!!!!

 

[Captante]

^^^ I HAVE the latest version of NS ... it's called SeaMonkey now and it works fine, unless some codeheaded twit of an IT twat decides they want to tell me which browser to use ... which oughta' be ILLEAGAL!!!!

I've used SeaMonkey although as I recall I gave up on it pretty quickly.

In fact most "alternative" browsers fall short in terms of updates and security.

Oh wait you think updates/patches are bad right?

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

As a direct descendant of the winner of the browser wars, SM is NOT an 'alternative' browser. It's the only real one remaining.

It's the best of the best that ever was.

 

[Captante]

As a direct descendant of the winner of the browser wars, SM is NOT an 'alternative' browser. It's the only real one remaining.

It's the best of the best that ever was.

I loved Netscape back in the day but time has passed it by. (just like AOL weather-radar)

Mozilla and Firefox were/are also direct descendants.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Ummm .... noooo

NS morphed into Mozilla Suite when AOHell got involved. FF was an offshoot ... Mozilla browser without the suite. That took hold of the brains of the people running Mozilla and drained all their smarts. The ejected the staff and the rest of the Suite development team who reassembled as SeaMonkey.


First: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netscape
Then: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Foundation
Now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SeaMonkey

 

[Captante]

Ummm .... noooo

NS morphed into Mozilla Suite when AOHell got involved. FF was an offshoot ... Mozilla browser without the suite. That took hold of the brains of the people running Mozilla and drained all their smarts. The ejected the staff and the rest of the Suite development team who reassembled as SeaMonkey.


First: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netscape
Then: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Foundation
Now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SeaMonkey

I was around and into PC's for all of that but thanks?

The only thing that matters to me here is that when I tried using SeaMonkey I had problems with quite a few websites not working properly.

Been quite awhile since I've had any significant problems with Firefox. In fact I've had far more issue's with Chromium-based browsers lately related to using secure sites especially.


EDIT: Also this:

"Under the hood, SeaMonkey uses much of the same Mozilla Firefox source code which powers such products as Thunderbird. Legal backing is provided by the SeaMonkey Association (SeaMonkey e.V.). "

(copy/pasted directly from the SeaMonkey website)

 

[Red Squirrel]

Speaking of dumb IT decisions, there are two DMS100 switches that for whatever reason they won't put in the same system as all the other switches, and they also won't give us direct IP access. So we have to use a RDP jump box to get to them. Well they just changed the jump box to some other box that now requires a freaking 12 character password, and it times out every 15 minutes then kicks you off. You also need to login to both DMSes each time because the session is per user. Before we just had a generic login we all used so we just had one person log in and it would take over the session from the other and everything just stayed up fine. But now we have to log in to both DMSes each time, and then after 15 minutes if you don't catch the time out, start all over again because it timed out.

I tried to load a "no sleep" app into the RDP but it still has some kind of idle time out, so think because it's RDP the keyboard key press does not simulate the same way.

Another dumb thing with this is that instead of it using our regular windows login, which stupidly also has to be 12 characters, it uses a totally separate one. As if the crazy 12 character password requirement for our AD login was not bad enough but at least I managed to learn that one by heart now.

 

[nakedfrog]

LOL, oh noes, twelve characters?!?

 

[sdifox]

Speaking of dumb IT decisions, there are two DMS100 switches that for whatever reason they won't put in the same system as all the other switches, and they also won't give us direct IP access. So we have to use a RDP jump box to get to them. Well they just changed the jump box to some other box that now requires a freaking 12 character password, and it times out every 15 minutes then kicks you off. You also need to login to both DMSes each time because the session is per user. Before we just had a generic login we all used so we just had one person log in and it would take over the session from the other and everything just stayed up fine. But now we have to log in to both DMSes each time, and then after 15 minutes if you don't catch the time out, start all over again because it timed out.

I tried to load a "no sleep" app into the RDP but it still has some kind of idle time out, so think because it's RDP the keyboard key press does not simulate the same way.

Another dumb thing with this is that instead of it using our regular windows login, which stupidly also has to be 12 characters, it uses a totally separate one. As if the crazy 12 character password requirement for our AD login was not bad enough but at least I managed to learn that one by heart now.

You mean you don't have the passwords printed and laminated?

 

[sdifox]

Speaking of dumb IT decisions, there are two DMS100 switches that for whatever reason they won't put in the same system as all the other switches, and they also won't give us direct IP access. So we have to use a RDP jump box to get to them. Well they just changed the jump box to some other box that now requires a freaking 12 character password, and it times out every 15 minutes then kicks you off. You also need to login to both DMSes each time because the session is per user. Before we just had a generic login we all used so we just had one person log in and it would take over the session from the other and everything just stayed up fine. But now we have to log in to both DMSes each time, and then after 15 minutes if you don't catch the time out, start all over again because it timed out.

I tried to load a "no sleep" app into the RDP but it still has some kind of idle time out, so think because it's RDP the keyboard key press does not simulate the same way.

Another dumb thing with this is that instead of it using our regular windows login, which stupidly also has to be 12 characters, it uses a totally separate one. As if the crazy 12 character password requirement for our AD login was not bad enough but at least I managed to learn that one by heart now.

You mean you don't have the passwords printed and laminated?

 

[Fritzo]

I don't care about your job security changes for the sake of changes to show off your fancy new tricks. I don't care if you learned a new code gimmick. STOP changing stuff that works!!!!

Proton Mail for one has changed stuff about six times in the last year. Banks keep changing stuff. I got forced onto a new bank for one CC. Their site is in the middle of a formatting transition and every page looks completely different as far as fonts, logos and other basic formatting. FedGov sites keep changing stuff. The VA site started a log in change , then stopped it mid stroke for some reason.

No wonder people keep getting their IDs stolen, they have no idea what any given website is supposed to look like from day to day. Log in one day and it looks and works fine. Log in the next day and it's all different and half the stuff doesn't work. How are they supposed to know if they're even on the right site?

You know whey we're doing that?

There is now cash incentive for hacking, and it's big money. Ransomware is a $20 billion industry how, and expected to be over $200 billion by the turn of the decade. Insurance companies are raising their rates like crazy, and to keep insurance you have to implement a series of standards and protections.

THAT'S why they keep changing things.

 

[Red Squirrel]

You mean you don't have the passwords printed and laminated?

We use PINS for all our passwords but now that our main login one is more complex I also have it in my phone and it would not be surprised if some people are just putting it on a sticky note now. It not only has to be 12 characters but there's all sorts of rules, like you can't have any sequences or patterns or words etc. When they first introduced this I figured ok I'll just do !@#$ or q1w2 at the end of my regular password, but ya can't do that. Two same characters cannot repeat twice, or keyboard sequences can't happen either. For example 12 23 34 qw er ty ui etc can't be in the password because they are beside each other on the keyboard. Keep in mind this password is used for lot of stuff and has to be typed in repeatedly throughout the day so it needs to be made physically easy and fast to type out. The RDP one is a totally different password too so there really are two of these now to remember. I don't know the RDP one off hand I just get it from PINs since I'm already logged in to my PC at that point. I'm really not sure why they did not tie that one to our AD account, it's literally just a windows login, but they wanted it to be different.

There is diminishing returns to making passwords this complex as once you get to a point where it can't be memorized people just write it down.

 

[sdifox]

We use PINS for all our passwords but now that our main login one is more complex I also have it in my phone and it would not be surprised if some people are just putting it on a sticky note now. It not only has to be 12 characters but there's all sorts of rules, like you can't have any sequences or patterns or words etc. When they first introduced this I figured ok I'll just do !@#$ or q1w2 at the end of my regular password, but ya can't do that. Two same characters cannot repeat twice, or keyboard sequences can't happen either. For example 12 23 34 qw er ty ui etc can't be in the password because they are beside each other on the keyboard. Keep in mind this password is used for lot of stuff and has to be typed in repeatedly throughout the day so it needs to be made physically easy and fast to type out. The RDP one is a totally different password too so there really are two of these now to remember. I don't know the RDP one off hand I just get it from PINs since I'm already logged in to my PC at that point. I'm really not sure why they did not tie that one to our AD account, it's literally just a windows login, but they wanted it to be different.

There is diminishing returns to making passwords this complex as once you get to a point where it can't be memorized people just write it down.

Can't they just implement authenticator?

 

[VirtualLarry]

There is diminishing returns to making passwords this complex as once you get to a point where it can't be memorized people just write it down.

Fingerprint scanner, and Smart cards?

 

[sdifox]

Fingerprint scanner, and Smart cards?

 

[Red Squirrel]

Fingerprint scanner, and Smart cards?

That would be too user friendly, they'd never do that. But ideally it would be nice to have some form of single sign on setup but they will never do that.

Though it has crossed my mind to do an arduino setup where I just swipe my ID card and it types out the password. It would just emulate a USB keyboard. Pretty sure the security people would have a field day with that though, so I best not to.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Neural implants.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

And stop sniffing my mouse!

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Go to this page: https://www.upgrade.com/

All the way at the bottom, in the lower right corner are two email addresses, Investor and Contact. Highlight, copy and paste either or both. What do you get?