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lxskllr
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- Nov 30, 2004
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A supplier I used got bought by a huge supplier. The website went from minimal scripting, with an easy to use interface that made finding things easy to a javascript hellhole. Spend more time waiting for shit to load than reading about stuff I want to read about :^S
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Can you read the headlines here?
US News just made this font change in the last couple of hours. It was something else and much more bold this morning.
US News just made this font change in the last couple of hours. It was something else and much more bold this morning.
nakedfrog
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- Apr 3, 2001
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It doesn't look like that now. It was a little slow for the page to load for me, it's possible that the styling didn't get fully loaded for you?
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nakedfrog
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- Apr 3, 2001
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brianmanahan
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- Sep 2, 2006
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ctrl+f5 is the only true refresh
i might as well remap it to ctrl+r, because when i refresh i always want a hard refresh
Lanyap
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- Dec 23, 2000
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What’s a mainframe?
(j/k)
I bought an old IBM mainframe from the 1980s on ebay and installed it in my basement. It screen-scrapes webpages and converts them into green screen format and sends it to my 3270 terminal. No problems with stupid images, JavaScript , html, etc.
Bam!
Charmonium
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- May 15, 2015
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I'm going to assume you have some non-scary reason for doing that and . . . squirrel!What’s a mainframe?
(j/k)
I bought an old IBM mainframe from the 1980s on ebay and installed it in my basement. It screen-scrapes webpages and converts them into green screen format and sends it to my 3270 terminal. No problems with stupid images, JavaScript , html, etc.
Bam!
For reasons I assume have more to do with perceived value rather than functionality (client: 'what do you mean it can't survive a direct blast from a 20 megaton fusion MIRV?' IBM rep: 'what are you talking about? try to lift that keyboard. go on. I'm not even asking you to lift the crt. We have tiny fork lifts for those'), those "older" terminals were beasts. Just out of curiosity, they didn't have any actual tubes in logic, right? CRT is a given.
mikeymikec
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- May 19, 2011
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Windows 11 is a perfect example of this stupidity.
For example who the fvck decided it was good design to bury frequently used drop-down menu selections like "delete" two or three clicks deep instead of one
Sorry, what?
Right-click on file, click on trashcan icon at the top of the context menu.
Please don't make me feel obliged to defend Win11. The fact that they got rid of the 'disable taskbar grouping' and taskbar labelling options really gets my goat.
mikeymikec
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Charmonium
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Then they have to offer you an "upgrade" in order to f*** with you. Obviously, you will probably need to prevent it from 'phoning home' . . . and that's where you lost me. No, really. I loved Eudora soooo much.
mikeymikec
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- May 19, 2011
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The last big UI change to Thunderbird was with version 3 IIRC, over ten years ago. I haven't heard any rumours about it ever phoning home. I was mildly peeved with the Lightning (Calendar) extension being merged to be part of TB a few years ago, but I just ignore it and customise it until it disappears.
I too liked Eudora
I've been using TB for about twenty years.
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SeaMonkey (why the heck doesn't everybody use it?), the descendant of Netscape Navigator and the only remaining real full browser suite I know of has a full TB style mail client built in. The calendar was recently added.
Captante
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- Oct 20, 2003
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Aside from keeping the version of 11 on my primary PC that dual-boots with 10 Pro up to date I don't regularly use 11.... far as I recall there was no "trash can" icon in the right-click context menu, rather "delete" was hidden in a second nested drop-down. Maybe they "fixed" it since I last paid attention?
And since Windows XP every new version of Windows has 100% made settings more difficult to get to .... frankly even Vista's GUI is simpler/easier to use then anything current and was actually easier to use then even win 7.
Far as I'm concerned Windows 11 is mostly crap/hype ... the only good reason I see to make the switch from 10 would be if I upgraded to an Intel 12-series CPU.
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mikeymikec
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Captante
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Dated Sept 2021:
Yeah that annoying "show more options" was what I was thinking about... M$ has def become more proactive fixing nonsense like this on the bright side!
mikeymikec
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The last I used Seamonkey (version 2.something) on Windows, it always seemed to suffer from not being the prime focus of attention and so stuff often just didn't work quite so well in it as the non-XUL counterparts (ie. Firefox/Thunderbird), and bugs took longer to be fixed.
Captante
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- Oct 20, 2003
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Same here .... the only "alternative" browser I've used recently that was actually worth the switch long-term was Vivaldi however they're now just another Chrome-clone too having gone "mainstream".
Truth is that most "secondary" browsers are not updated nearly as frequently as the big guys and are as a direct result much less secure.
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FF essentially killed development of SM.
At the time it was the greatest thing since sliced bread and had more or less won the browser wars. As Mozilla Suite it was still strong and growing. It was THE browser.
Mozilla crapped on it though moving all the funding to FF and kicked the Suite team out in the cold.
It survives supported by volunteer developers from that team and still works fine on most sites including this one, but there are an increasing number where I have to use Brave, Opera or Vivaldi.
I'm still on 2.49.5 though and the team over there says the newest versions are more like those others, but a lot of the add-ons and extensions were crippled or jettiosoned. They're up to 2.53.12 now.
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At the time it was the greatest thing since sliced bread and had more or less won the browser wars. As Mozilla Suite it was still strong and growing. It was THE browser.
Mozilla crapped on it though moving all the funding to FF and kicked the Suite team out in the cold.
It survives supported by volunteer developers from that team and still works fine on most sites including this one, but there are an increasing number where I have to use Brave, Opera or Vivaldi.
I'm still on 2.49.5 though and the team over there says the newest versions are more like those others, but a lot of the add-ons and extensions were crippled or jettiosoned. They're up to 2.53.12 now.
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nakedfrog
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Captante
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- Oct 20, 2003
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All three of which are now Chromium-based.
Might as well just use Edge.And It's been many years since I considered using any kind of email program that actually downloads all inbox-messages to my PC at home.... not a wise idea.
Far safer to use webmail to store messages from unknown senders.
Charmonium
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JEDI
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brianmanahan
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i don't know of a way unfortunately, other than using something outside of the browser like this:
and actually even that is still requiring pressing f5 - just not ctrl+f5
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