here we go! Wisconsin recount is happening

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Sunburn74

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I think recounts are fine.

I would like to see every penny collected go to the recount, it'll be interesting to follow the $.

The money raised for a recount was small beans. $4 million dollars is a small research or project grant in some parts of the country. I seriously doubt Jill Stein needs the money.
 

michal1980

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They don't care how they won just that they won. That's how perverse they are. They would subvert democracy to see their version of government go forward. I'm not saying I think the results are going to change but that is thier mindset.
left is on both sides of the issue. They wanted to get Trump on record that he wouldn't challenge the results no matter what happened. They spent all this time crying about how trump not accepting the results was going to destroy democracy.

And now, guess what? The same liberals are denying the election results. They are now challenging democracy. The left is now going off the deep end in conspiracy lala land. No proof that anything happen, but just because they lost we must look to see if something happened.

So now the left is willing to throw democracy away, they are willing to cast doubt on everything. Now that they lost its no longer important to move on. And they aren't even willing to admit their own hypocrisy.
 
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Sunburn74

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left is on both sides of the issue. They wanted to get Trump on record that he wouldn't challenge the results no matter what happened. They spent all this time crying about how trump not accepting the results was going to destroy democracy.

And now, guess what? The same liberals are denying the election results. They are now challenging democracy. The left is now going off the deep end in conspiracy lala land. No proof that anything happen, but just because they lost we must look to see if something happened.

So now the left is willing to throw democracy away, they are willing to cast doubt on everything. Now that they lost its no longer important to move on. And they aren't even willing to admit their own hypocrisy.

Asking for a peaceful recount is not challenging the legitimacy of the election results or of democracy in general. The rules were put in place as part of the democratic process in all of these states.
 
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JSt0rm

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left is on both sides of the issue. They wanted to get Trump on record that he wouldn't challenge the results no matter what happened. They spent all this time crying about how trump not accepting the results was going to destroy democracy.

And now, guess what? The same liberals are denying the election results. They are now challenging democracy. The left is now going off the deep end in conspiracy lala land. No proof that anything happen, but just because they lost we must look to see if something happened.

So now the left is willing to throw democracy away, they are willing to cast doubt on everything. Now that they lost its no longer important to move on. And they aren't even willing to admit their own hypocrisy.

You are such a victim. You probably got a lot of wedgies when you were a kid.
 

Sunburn74

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Hillary should have made Joe Exotic VP. Would have stolen away from Trump supporters for sure.

"I hate her guts! But man I love tigers"
 
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The fact we even have to debate wether a states votes were all 100% accurate and accounted for is sad. Our election should be as accurate as it can be. Hence why they should not bother showing numbers on the president until its all 100% final and done. Vote one day. Get results a week later. Sounds good to me. That way no real time media influence.
 
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Asking for a peaceful recount is not challenging the legitimacy of the election results or of democracy in general. The rules were put in place as part of the democratic process in all of these states.
Mical is being accurate, the Democrats/press were demanding that Trump accept the results and now they want to change that and do a recount. I'm fine with a recount as long as it's done fairly and accurately, it's the left that changed their tune.
 

JSt0rm

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Mical is being accurate, the Democrats/press were demanding that Trump accept the results and now they want to change that and do a recount. I'm fine with a recount as long as it's done fairly and accurately, it's the left that changed their tune.

Doing a recount has nothing to do with accepting the results. But I expect you Russians to be out in full force trying to sway people away from looking into things.
 

compuwiz1

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This is a fool's errand. Remember where you heard this; Michigan will not be recounted.
 

Sunburn74

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Mical is being accurate, the Democrats/press were demanding that Trump accept the results and now they want to change that and do a recount. I'm fine with a recount as long as it's done fairly and accurately, it's the left that changed their tune.

I think its a little different here. Trump basically was not willing to accept the election results and was not willing to tell his supporters to accept the results before votes were cast in ALL 50 STATES!

Except if he won. Then he'd accept the results as legitimate.
 

michal1980

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Asking for a peaceful recount is not challenging the legitimacy of the election results or of democracy in general. The rules were put in place as part of the democratic process in all of these states.

Wrong. Clinton asked Trump if he would accept election night results. He said he would have to wait and see what the results were. The left blew a gasket over that answer.

Now days/weeks after Hilary conceded the election they are out fund raising in hopes of over turning the results. Why? Because they don't feel right.

Of course your can ask for a recount when its close. But too act all high and smug before the election, ripping on trump for not 100% accepting the results on the night of the election then weeks later asking for a recount with close to ZERO chance of changing anything. with ZERO proof of fraud (while your alt-left bloggers are trying to imply fraud, tempering, and hacking). Is doing exactly what you were trying to imply trump would do if he would have lost.
 

michal1980

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I think its a little different here. Trump basically was not willing to accept the election results and was not willing to tell his supporters to accept the results before votes were cast in ALL 50 STATES!

Except if he won. Then he'd accept the results as legitimate.

Its exactly the same. You are pulling the same stun you were saying trump would
 

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First he should tell us his definition of gloating. If he can relate that to the behavior of the left here after Obama's wins that would be an added bonus.
Who is it that would not know what gloating is? I have already explained That only a moral coward would point to the other to deflect his own guilt. And here you are revealing your moral cowardliness just as buckshot did. You need to stop believing that you are worthless.
 

Sunburn74

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Wrong. Clinton asked Trump if he would accept election night results. He said he would have to wait and see what the results were. The left blew a gasket over that answer.

Now days/weeks after Hilary conceded the election they are out fund raising in hopes of over turning the results. Why? Because they don't feel right.

Of course your can ask for a recount when its close. But too act all high and smug before the election, ripping on trump for not 100% accepting the results on the night of the election then weeks later asking for a recount with close to ZERO chance of changing anything. with ZERO proof of fraud (while your alt-left bloggers are trying to imply fraud, tempering, and hacking). Is doing exactly what you were trying to imply trump would do if he would have lost.

I feel very sad for you sir.
 

woolfe9998

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This is the last thing we need right now, more allegations of election rigging, this time coming from the left. Jill Stein is an idiot. I actually agree with Trump this time, that Stein is just trying to call attention to herself, given that her campaign was an abject failure even by third party standards.

What with Russia seeding social media with fake news stories about election rigging in order to undermine the faith of Americans in our electoral system, and Trump playing along with it, all we need is more of this nonsense coming from the other side. Just like the Sanders supporters who claimed the primary voting was rigged with no supporting evidence. Come off it, liberals. No one rigged anything. It was a dangerous joke when Trump said it, and it's no better now.
 
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compuwiz1

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Make this election end already!

It already did. Some people just need to grow the fuck up, accept the results and move on. Like Obama once said, win an election. If you take everything else out of it, historically, it was normal time for the republican to win. It's time proven that after two terms of democrats, a republican normally wins, same after two terms of republicans. Everyone is ready for change after too much of the same.
 

boomerang

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So? What's the problem? The money has been raised for recounts by personal donations. It's part of the system and the requirements have been met. Get over it you sore ass Trump supporters.
Nobody has to "get over" anything. We're actually providing a service here. We're planting seeds of doubt that may help many of the left survive another disappointment because the recount will still result in Trump being the president.

Our posts are based in compassion.
 

compuwiz1

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Cunnyism runs rampant on this board. Never in my life, have I seen so many whiny losers, who refuse to admit they lost an election. If they cry much longer, they might do it until the next election, instead of preparing. Man up and prepare for the victory you desire, otherwise you get a trophy for participating. lol