here we go! Wisconsin recount is happening

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If fraud is suspected they should be recounting every state; and the federal government should be paying for it. These are rather serious allegations that this woman is making.
sure but why commit fraud in states that are obvious? Go for the gray area, the dodgy states up for play. but if a full recount is needed, let's do it.
Here we go again (maybe, probably not, well maybe, but who knows)
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Jhhnn

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Bernie got a house for his "sacrifice". Stein can get one too. The only thing green she's interested in is cold hard cash.

Always with the shameless innuendo & conspiracy theory.

“My family had a lake home in Maine since 1900, but we hadn’t had the time to go there in recent years — especially since my parents passed away,” she said. “We finally let go of it and that enabled us to buy a place in the islands — something I’ve always hoped for. ”

http://www.sevendaysvt.com/OffMessa...rnie-sanders-buys-a-summer-home-in-north-hero

The double standard employed by Trump voters is pretty amazing. They've been branded- not on their flanks but in their brains. Donald walks on water & everybody else is crooked because of that.
 

Starbuck1975

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Even in this, Hillary is incapable of asserting a leadership position. If she has to pawn off to Stein even something like a recount, which she is VERY VESTED in, she doesn't deserve to be President.

Although to be fair, Trump claimed he would not accept the election results. I suppose no one should at this point.
 

MrSquished

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Bernie got a house for his "sacrifice". Stein can get one too. The only thing green she's interested in is cold hard cash.

Bernie bought a massive 1800 sq ft mansion of a vacation home because his wife sold a home in Maine she had inherited and decided to sell. But don't let facts in the way of some alt-right bullshit you eat for breakfast.
 

Jhhnn

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Even in this, Hillary is incapable of asserting a leadership position. If she has to pawn off to Stein even something like a recount, which she is VERY VESTED in, she doesn't deserve to be President.

Although to be fair, Trump claimed he would not accept the election results. I suppose no one should at this point.

More slime, huh? In order to win the election by recount Clinton would need to flip WI, MI & one other, like PA. Realistically, the margins in PA are simply too large to be overcome, 70K votes. Clinton has no control over Stein who has likely concluded that she made a yuge mistake by running at all. She probably figured Clinton would win so whatever votes she siphoned off wouldn't matter. She was mistaken.
 

compuwiz1

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This is a simple money grab. The market for the donations lies in a bunch of pissed off people, who didn't get their way, and are emotionally driven enough to contribute millions of dollars to a venture that is going to end up doing nothing to change the outcome. Stein, et al, found the market and decided to profit. Let's be honest and call it what it is. All that's going to happen, in the end, is some people enriching themselves. Disgusting!
 
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Moonbeam

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I came back to gloat but that doesn't mean I am still here to gloat, I haven't done much of that lately. I don't think the lefties here gloating if Trump was somehow dethroned would be any worse than when I rubbed him winning in their faces.
You are telling me nothing that I didn't tell you was true of you. Gloating is disgusting and immoral behavior and somebody else doing it isn't any better or worse than when you do it. The act of pointing at somebody else who is gloating when your own has been pointed out is an act of moral cowardliness. Pretend all you want but you can't hide the truth from He who sees right through you, or me for that matter. There is no forgiveness without acknowledgement, my friend.
 

buckshot24

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The utter gullibility of the lefties giving to this fruitless effort is pretty funny. On FB a few fake news sites made a few k fooling conservatives into "liking" posts but this is 4 millionish of money directly given by liberals for something that simply won't/can't be successful. Who are the bigger fools?
 

buckshot24

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You are telling me nothing that I didn't tell you was true of you. Gloating is disgusting and immoral behavior and somebody else doing it isn't any better or worse than when you do it. The act of pointing at somebody else who is gloating when your own has been pointed out is an act of moral cowardliness. Pretend all you want but you can't hide the truth from He who sees right through you, or me for that matter. There is no forgiveness without acknowledgement, my friend.
Please tell me why you think gloating is "disgusting and immoral".
 

boomerang

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Bernie bought a massive 1800 sq ft mansion of a vacation home because his wife sold a home in Maine she had inherited and decided to sell. But don't let facts in the way of some alt-right bullshit you eat for breakfast.
Do you find that your inability to recognize sarcasm effects you in a negative way? It sure looks like it from here.
 

boomerang

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Please tell me why you think gloating is "disgusting and immoral".
First he should tell us his definition of gloating. If he can relate that to the behavior of the left here after Obama's wins that would be an added bonus.
 

boomerang

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The utter gullibility of the lefties giving to this fruitless effort is pretty funny. On FB a few fake news sites made a few k fooling conservatives into "liking" posts but this is 4 millionish of money directly given by liberals for something that simply won't/can't be successful. Who are the bigger fools?
Remember, the left excels at wasting money.
 

WelshBloke

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and you suggest what?

Suck it up. Put up with the next 4 years with as much dignity as you can. Youre not going to get rid of Trump this way, it just damages your democracy.

In the mean time sort out any problems that are intrinsic in your electoral system.
 

Starbuck1975

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More slime, huh? In order to win the election by recount Clinton would need to flip WI, MI & one other, like PA. Realistically, the margins in PA are simply too large to be overcome, 70K votes. Clinton has no control over Stein who has likely concluded that she made a yuge mistake by running at all. She probably figured Clinton would win so whatever votes she siphoned off wouldn't matter. She was mistaken.
Those correct the record checks aren't bouncing yet?

What slime? The Clinton campaign is now supporting Stein in the Wisconsin recount. Curious that a candidate who earned around 1% of the electorate was able to inspire the funding for a recount, or is the only one willing to take leadership on the issue.

If you believe this is an exercise in futility, why is Clinton now playing along?
 

UberNeuman

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So? What's the problem? The money has been raised for recounts by personal donations. It's part of the system and the requirements have been met. Get over it you sore ass Trump supporters.
 

JSt0rm

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Suck it up. Put up with the next 4 years with as much dignity as you can. Youre not going to get rid of Trump this way, it just damages your democracy.

In the mean time sort out any problems that are intrinsic in your electoral system.

And in the off chance that we find systemic hacking and fraud by another country? Should we have just sucked it up? Maybe we should of just sucked up our tea tax as well ;)

We know your ancestors just took the tax.
 

JSt0rm

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So? What's the problem? The money has been raised for recounts by personal donations. It's part of the system and the requirements have been met. Get over it you sore ass Trump supporters.

They don't care how they won just that they won. That's how perverse they are. They would subvert democracy to see their version of government go forward. I'm not saying I think the results are going to change but that is thier mindset.
 

Kazukian

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I think recounts are fine.

I would like to see every penny collected go to the recount, it'll be interesting to follow the $.
 

JSt0rm

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I think recounts are fine.

I would like to see every penny collected go to the recount, it'll be interesting to follow the $.

The remaining money will go to election stuff. Whatever that means. I'm sure people will be anal probing the Green Party to see where the money goes.
 

Jhhnn

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Those correct the record checks aren't bouncing yet?

What slime? The Clinton campaign is now supporting Stein in the Wisconsin recount. Curious that a candidate who earned around 1% of the electorate was able to inspire the funding for a recount, or is the only one willing to take leadership on the issue.

If you believe this is an exercise in futility, why is Clinton now playing along?

This slime, specifically-

Even in this, Hillary is incapable of asserting a leadership position. If she has to pawn off to Stein even something like a recount, which she is VERY VESTED in, she doesn't deserve to be President.

Now that a recount will happen, the Clinton campaign intends to participate for the reasons stated here-

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...pports-recount-efforts-in-battleground-states

The Democratic base basically demands it now that Stein has made it a reality. Clinton obviously didn't set out to joust at windmills.

I figure Trump has nothing to fear but that doesn't mean he's not all twitchy about it.

Recounts are a regular feature of democracy, anyway.