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ionoxx

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Originally posted by: Raze

That chip is a 2.8 by standard, but the board has MSI Core
Cell which is
what overclocks (designed for it) to set it at 3.0Ghz. - 3.6Ghz
Read the documentation that comes with MSI Core Cell (should
be on cd) It's a setting that clocks it at 3.0Ghz.
Thought we had set it, might have forgotton. Also, The Board
Supports Hyper
Threading, The CPU, I'll double check on and ask about. If
im correct,I
know for sure that processor comes for HT Tech. But i'll
double check just in case. Actually, I have the Box from your system right
here, it Says 2.8 Celeron D with Hyper Threading? I'll take a picture if
needed.

That is impressive lying there. Now, who here has ever seen a HyperThreading Celeron. I also enjoy the fact that he's selling 2.8GHz processors overclocked to 3.0GHz and actually charging the price of the 3.0GHz... wow, I would also contact Intel and see if he's Channel Member. If he is, he'll probably get a real footing of the ass by intel.

Brilliant, the motherboard supports HT!!!!

Really, this is some impressive work from this guy, he's trying to screw people really hard.
 

ionoxx

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Sorry to double post but for what its worth... could you please get us that picture of the Box of the HyperThreading Celeron. That would be such a good laugh.
 

imported_Raze

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who can I contact about this he is advertising IBM, Alienware, wrong intel parts. Can I contact those companies and how????
 

ionoxx

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Raze, i have some ideas for you, but i would prefer not posting in public channels, could you please send me a private message with you email address?
 

imported_Raze

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I have returned the computer less then 24hrs after receiving it. Its on its way back to them today as of about 9:45 am this morning eastern standard timeand in its origional condition and shipping material and by the way I received it yesterday at about 11:00 am eastern standard time. Now I hope they dont include the shipping as the days. Cause those are days I couldnt possibly have returned it. I didnt have it to even return.
 

Ike0069

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Somebody please tell how this is not flat out BS:
How does it cool, and can you add a
water cooler. Well, Yes, We can, and Will, IF,
the Auction exceeds $1400.00 or more, we will include this super charged water cooler FREE!
Now, if your anything like me, your
wondering, ... Water, Electricity... Don't sound right together. Well, Theres good news, the
Manufacture gives you a warranty with it,
GUARANTEED not to LEAK... PERIOD. It also
comes prefilled with the special cooling water. Below is a few pictures showing you the cooler. It helps the
computer RUN 10%-20% faster by keeping it
this cool.


Really. No need to OC, just WC your system. What a complete jackass.
 

shoRunner

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yes it has definately been established that who ever builds these computers is a complete idiot.
 

interchange

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Originally posted by: ionoxx
Posting a persons info like that is not illegal, as far as i know. As long as you speak the truth in what you say. Otherwise its slander, i think that the word... ;-)

The word is libel. Slander is spoken and libel is written.

Since you are only posting truthful information, then you are not at any sort of legal risk. They would not sue you and are only trying to settle you down from getting the word out that their business is a complete scam. You don't need a lawyer for this matter so long as the product is shipped back to them and paypal grants your refund.

What actions you do from there, i.e. to put the word out that these are not reputable sellers and are knowingly falsely advertising their products, is up to you.
 

MobiusPizza

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You guys are too agressive
At least give seller a chance to sort out
What if he's really innocent and just by chance shipped the wrong PC?
 

ionoxx

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Originally posted by: interchange
Originally posted by: ionoxx
Posting a persons info like that is not illegal, as far as i know. As long as you speak the truth in what you say. Otherwise its slander, i think that the word... ;-)

The word is libel. Slander is spoken and libel is written.

Since you are only posting truthful information, then you are not at any sort of legal risk. They would not sue you and are only trying to settle you down from getting the word out that their business is a complete scam. You don't need a lawyer for this matter so long as the product is shipped back to them and paypal grants your refund.

What actions you do from there, i.e. to put the word out that these are not reputable sellers and are knowingly falsely advertising their products, is up to you.

Thank you interchange!
 

ionoxx

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He was given a chance, then he started lying in his emails, read a few pages back.... there is no mistaken shipping.
 

shoRunner

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Originally posted by: AnnihilatorX
You guys are too agressive
At least give seller a chance to sort out
What if he's really innocent and just by chance shipped the wrong PC?


well since its not possible to ship the correct computer since it doesn't exist, they may have some trouble
 

imported_Raze

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Thank shoRunner exactly I tried to look up the IBM Alienware XT whatever those numbers in the ad were but I couldnt find anything on it. Unfortunately I looked it up to late after I made the purchase. However I figured Id wait and see when I got the product. Your now seeing the chaos and results. All I want is my money back.
 

teddyv

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I've seen this dozens of times, it is a typical con. They send blatantly inferior goods, they "try to make it right", they threaten you when you exercise your (perfectly legal) options.

Get your refund from PayPal and move on, they are not going to sue you. They very well may threaten all sorts of things, it is bluff and bluster. Fact is any reputable seller would not have made the blatant errors in goods (and in the off-chance they did would offer a refund immediately.) The "make it right" bit is almost always just to string you out until your options for refund are expired. If they keep it up, find out where they are located and call the local District Attorney's Office - let them know what is going on and be ready to send them copies of everything including e-mail correspondence (that usually works exceedingly well....)

And for future reference, NEVER use anything but a credit card when making purchases like this!
 

Tostada

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Originally posted by: RazeI do know that If I was to buy even that computer they sent me in a store it would have cost alot more. Im sure you guys here know where to find better prices then me. But I know nothing about hardware and how to essemble.

You are very wrong. $1365 is a lot of money. Let's look at what computer they actually sent you:

Celeron D 335 (2.8 GHz)
i865 motherboard
2x512MB DDR400 CL2.5 (but running at single-channel DDR333)
GeForce MX 4000 (worse than free integrated graphics)
250GB Hitachi HDD
Sony 52X CD-R 16X DVD-ROM combo drive

That computer just isn't worth much.

Note that the GeForce4 MX 4000 is a 64-bit DirectX 7 card (no shader) with 2 pipelines at 250 MHz. Intel Extreme Graphics 2 has 2 pipelines at 266 MHz. GMA 900 integrated graphics supports DirectX 9, Shader 2.0 and have 4 pipelines at 333 MHz.

So, does Dell count as a store?

Dimension 3000 - $939 configuration with free shipping
Pentium 4 3.0 GHz w/ HT Technology
17" flat panel included
1 GB dual-channel DDR
160GB hard drive
16X DVD burner
3-year on-site service
includes printer and speakers

That's better than what you ordered (except the hard drive), and certainly much better than what you got. It has a 3-year on-site warranty, and it's over $400 less.

How about:

Dimension 4700 - $1301 configuration with free shipping
Pentium 4 3.2 GHz w/ HT Technology
19" flat panel included
1 GB dual-channel DDR
Radeon X300 SE 128MB
250GB hard drive
16X DVD burner
3-year on-site service
includes speakers

Hands-down, this system is better than the one you ordered. Every piece of it is as good as the computer you were supposed to get, except the CPU is actually better and for 3 years they'll come to your house and fix it if it breaks.

These aren't even good deals. That's just standard. You can get better deals by going through Dell Small Business, or their educational store, or by using coupons posted all over the net. You can get a better system for $1365 straight-up through their Home & Home Office store without any tricks, though.

Once you get this resolved (and I'm hoping you get your money back before you try to piss the seller off too much), you need to include some of the ridiculous statements this seller has made in your eBay feedback.

For example, if your feedback said, "Seller advertized a P4 3.0 GHz with HyperThreading, gave me a Celeron 2.8 instead (no HyperThreading) and justified this by saying the the motherboard supported HT and the CPU could be overclocked to 3.0 GHz."

I mean, that's utterly ridiculous.

Originally posted by: teddyv
I've seen this dozens of times, it is a typical con. They send blatantly inferior goods, they "try to make it right", they threaten you when you exercise your (perfectly legal) options.

Get your refund from PayPal and move on, they are not going to sue you. They very well may threaten all sorts of things, it is bluff and bluster. Fact is any reputable seller would not have made the blatant errors in goods (and in the off-chance they did would offer a refund immediately.) The "make it right" bit is almost always just to string you out until your options for refund are expired. If they keep it up, find out where they are located and call the local District Attorney's Office - let them know what is going on and be ready to send them copies of everything including e-mail correspondence (that usually works exceedingly well....)

And for future reference, NEVER use anything but a credit card when making purchases like this!

Very good advice ... although I would not suggest ever "making purchases like this" unless you have very good fraud protection on your credit card ... and it's still a dumb purchase.

 

fstime

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This is what I think happenend,



He thought you would never notice since anyone who pays so much for that system obviously isnt going to know a lot.

Scam,

Tostada is 100% correct, you can get a MUCH MUCH nicer and better system that will perform a lot better.

Celeron line = low end for the most part.
Dimension 4700 - $1301 configuration with free shipping
Pentium 4 3.2 GHz w/ HT Technology
19" flat panel included
1 GB dual-channel DDR
Radeon X300 SE 128MB
250GB hard drive
16X DVD burner
3-year on-site service
includes speakers


Theres an example.

If I were you, i'd go with the other sytem though, I highly doubt you will notice the difference, plus its cheaper.


Dimension 3000 - $939 configuration with free shipping
Pentium 4 3.0 GHz w/ HT Technology
17" flat panel included
1 GB dual-channel DDR
160GB hard drive
16X DVD burner
3-year on-site service
includes printer and speakers

Either way, I think you should cancell the payment on your CC and return the computer.

Dont bother making other deals with he/she.

 

imported_Raze

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Thankyou everyone for your help. I will be requesting a refund. It seems the seller is upset and refuses me a refund since I posted bad feedback on ebay about him. Well lets look at the facts. Advertised an Alienware. Its not an Alienware. Advertised an IBM. Its not an IBM, Advertised a pentium 4, I got a celeron 2.8, Advertised 1 gig of dual channel ram, I got 1 gig of single channel ram, advertised an nvidia geforce FX 5200 64 bit 128mb ram. I got a geforce MX 4000. He breached the contract from the beginning and cannot make good on it no matter what cause if he even does put the right parts in it. It wont be an IBM or Alienware. Im through doing bussiness with this guy and will do whatever it takes to get my money back. I will spend all day today contacting the right people and keep you posted. Thanks everyone for your help. For more information on the seller and what he is up to go to http://www.tech-forums.net/showthread.p...threadid=58258&perpage=15&pagenumber=1 please read because this is really not good bussiness. Thanks
 

MobiusPizza

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Originally posted by: Raze
Thankyou everyone for your help. I will be requesting a refund. It seems the seller is upset and refuses me a refund since I posted bad feedback on ebay about him. Well lets look at the facts. Advertised an Alienware. Its not an Alienware. Advertised an IBM. Its not an IBM, Advertised a pentium 4, I got a celeron 2.8, Advertised 1 gig of dual channel ram, I got 1 gig of single channel ram, advertised an nvidia geforce FX 5200 64 bit 128mb ram. I got a geforce MX 4000. He breached the contract from the beginning and cannot make good on it no matter what cause if he even does put the right parts in it. It wont be an IBM or Alienware. Im through doing bussiness with this guy and will do whatever it takes to get my money back. I will spend all day today contacting the right people and keep you posted. Thanks everyone for your help. For more information on the seller and what he is up to go to http://www.tech-forums.net/showthread.p...threadid=58258&perpage=15&pagenumber=1 please read because this is really not good bussiness. Thanks

heh If I were you I'd have let him refund first then to post any feedbacks

If he refunds quickly, I would give him a neutral feedback
Otherwise after he refunded I'd give him a negative feedback
 

imported_Raze

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his is what I sent to IBM and to Alienware

I have purchased a product advertised as yours from ebay. I am requiring a refund from this party and they are refusing to give me a refund. However I believe that you should know who is using your companies name to sell there conterfit products.
The ebay item # 5203802794

The link to the advertisment = http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...item=5203802794

I urge you to read the advertisment as it says Alienware/IBM and is not.

If you are interested further. I purchased this from them, more info on what I recieved can be found at these two links.
http://www.tech-forums.net/showthre...15&pagenumber=1

http://forums.anandtech.com/message...MVIEWTMP=Linear


I thank you for your time in this matter. I will do whatever it takes to get my money back. I paid $1,300 + dollars for an item that is not related to your company but is advertised as. Anything you can do to help resolve this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

I have sent this e-mail to the coporate offices of IBM & Alienware.

I am now going to contact intel and state that they are advertising pentium 4's and giving people celerons. I have a long day ahead of me. O if they only just gave me my money back things would have gone much smoother. But its better for the most part as they will not be advertising Alienwares or IBM's anymore. Hopefully this helps the community and computer buying world.
 

madogvt

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Originally posted by: Raze
Hopefully you guys can help me find the right computer for me if and when I get my money back.


Dude...get a Dell.

Sorry to hear about this. G/L