help finishing off my build

[builder-inator]

Hey guys wouldn't a pile driver be better than a Bulldozer?

 

[builder-inator]

How's this one? AMD CPU Piledriver FX4300 3.8GHz Quad(4) Core it costs $20 more but I think it'll be worth the wait

 

[builder-inator]

Anybody?

 

[mfenn]

I totally understand, I'm serious. It's just that my brother will be using it too sometimes and he says 8GB or nothing. I'll try something.

Tell him to kick in the extra money then. If he can't front the cash, he has no business telling you what to do.

 

[mfenn]

How's this one? AMD CPU Piledriver FX4300 3.8GHz Quad(4) Core it costs $20 more but I think it'll be worth the wait

No, it's not worth it. The difference between Bulldozer and Piledriver is not enough to make up the 400 MHz difference. Even if it was, that $20 should be going to the GPU anyway.

 

[builder-inator]

No, it's not worth it. The difference between Bulldozer and Piledriver is not enough to make up the 400 MHz difference. Even if it was, that $20 should be going to the GPU anyway.

I've read people saying that there are many problems in the Bulldozer Series that was fixed in the Piledriver. Also it is more energy efficient

And I was just asking him for advice

 

[mfenn]

I've read people saying that there are many problems in the Bulldozer Series that was fixed in the Piledriver.

There weren't any showstopper bugs in Bulldozer that would be visible as crashes or misbehavior to the end user. There are some that reduce performance, but when taken holistically, the overall advantage of the 400 MHz and $20 price difference is more important.

And by the way I'm just asking my brother for advice

Advice is when you give somebody your honest opinion of what would be best for them. Trying to get somebody to do what you want for your own benefit is called self-serving manipulation.

 

[builder-inator]

There weren't any showstopper bugs in Bulldozer that would be visible as crashes or misbehavior to the end user. There are some that reduce performance, but when taken holistically, the overall advantage of the 400 MHz and $20 price difference is more important.



Advice is when you give somebody your honest opinion of what would be best for them. Trying to get somebody to do what you want for your own benefit is called self-serving manipulation.

OK, OK we don't need to argue about my brother. The important thing here is the build, right?

I see... so is the the fact that it's more energy efficient compared to the bulldozer even worth it?

And also with the extra $20 could I get a better graphics card than the 7790?

 

[birthdaymonkey]

OK, OK we don't need to argue about my brother. The important thing here is the build, right?

I see... so is the the fact that it's more energy efficient compared to the bulldozer even worth it?

And also with the extra $20 could I get a better graphics card than the 7790?

The next logical step would be a 7850. How much more are those in your country?

 

[builder-inator]

$230 that's too much if it was $190 that would be ok

 

[birthdaymonkey]

$230 that's too much if it was $190 that would be ok

There's also the Geforce 650Ti BOOST, which is competitive with the 7790 and beats it in a lot of games. Note: the non-BOOST 650Ti is significantly slower and probably worse than the 7790.

 

[builder-inator]

I'm check that out... give me 5 minutes

 

[builder-inator]

It's around the same price as the 7850. Can I maybe not upgrade something else?

 

[tg2708]

It's around the same price as the 7850. Can I maybe not upgrade something else?

here is a 7850 from newegg. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...D&AID=10446076

 

[builder-inator]

here is a 7850 from newegg. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...D&AID=10446076

I'm in South Africa and I don't want to do international shipping

 

[builder-inator]

Well now I'm forced to take the Piledriver because there isn't any stock of the bulldozer

 

[builder-inator]

What really would I be missing out from the bulldozer if I took the Piledriver?

 

[builder-inator]

I can't find a good priced FX 4170 but I found a good priced FX 4300

 

[mfenn]

OK, OK we don't need to argue about my brother. The important thing here is the build, right?

Exactly. And your brother is the primary thing standing in the way of that. So let's just ignore him for now, OK?

I see... so is the the fact that it's more energy efficient compared to the bulldozer even worth it?

Given your budget, you can't really be picky about that sort of thing. You need to get the best performance you can for your budget.

Actually, what would be really helpful is if you posted a list of all CPUs and GPUs within +/- $50 of your price range (and their prices of course). That'd avoid a lot of back and forth because we could just pick out the right one.

 

[builder-inator]

You won't find anything good for $50 here, the prices are much higher. For example the FX 4170 here is $147

 

[builder-inator]

I have found both CPUs at good prices, so you say performance is better? Which would mean the FX 4170. So can I finalise?

 

[builder-inator]

http://www.extremetech.com/computin...piledriver-deliver-where-bulldozer-fell-short found this

 

[builder-inator]

OK everybody has finally agreed that I can take the FX 4170, even my brother, so can I please finalise

 

[mfenn]

You won't find anything good for $50 here, the prices are much higher. For example the FX 4170 here is $147

+/- $50, not $50. In other words, within $50 of the parts you've currently got picked out.

 

[builder-inator]

Sorry guys I haven't replied in a long time. I've been able to finalise build, with the FX 4170, HD 7790 and 4GB RAM. I haven't payed yet because my friends knows a cheaper source. About your request mfenn, I looked for CPUs around $50 and I can't find anything good, nothing. But I think I'm happy with what I'm getting, I just want it now!!! Ugh I hate waiting, have so many plans