Have to laugh: GM's Archaic Assembly Line...

[GTaudiophile]

I was just browsing Autoblog and saw this picture showing the Volt assembly line:

(My comment has nothing to do with the workers themselves but rather the environment in which they are working.)

And I have to compare it to the likes of...

The VW Phaeton line in Dresden:

Or a BMW line in Bavaria:

No wonder we can't build cars for shit!

 

[Bignate603]

I'd rather have the money I spend go into the car rather than a fancy wood floored assembly line.

 

[Pariah]

The Phaeton? You mean the car that Volkswagen cancelled in America after 2 years because no one here had any interest in spending $80k base price on a Volkswagen, or $95k+ for the W12 version? Maybe if they hadn't wasted all that money on a fancy looking factory, they could have sold the car for less, and someone might have actually bought one.

Of other interest, I don't see any Beetle or Passat's on that assemby line. Where's the picture of that plant?

The only thing laugh worthy here is how stupid this thread is.

 

[Zivic]

The Phaeton? You mean the car that Volkswagen cancelled in America after 2 years because no one here had any interest in spending $80k base price on a Volkswagen, or $95k+ for the W12 version? Maybe if they hadn't wasted all that money on a fancy looking factory, they could have sold the car for less, and someone might have actually bought one.

my neighbor has one... I've never driven it, but it looks bad@ss when I see him pass the house.

 

[disappoint]

I like how the reliability of VW and even BMW sucks compared to GM and they still don't make a production car as fast as the Corvette ZR1.

I buy cars, not assembly lines.

 

[Ferzerp]

I buy cars, not assembly lines.

Spoiler

..

 

[Pariah]

my neighbor has one... I've never driven it, but it looks bad@ss when I see him pass the house.

Having experienced some of the worst depreciation in the industry, most people could afford one now. There are 7 for sale within 300 miles of me on autotrader, and not one of them is listed for over $20k. Here's one for under $14k:

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.j...e=b&num_records=25&cardist=124&standard=false

 

[DVad3r]

rofl yea dude.

I had that impression a while back when I was watching the car factory shows from each manufacturer and I saw all the BMW/Porsche/Audi ones first, after that I watched the Corvette one and lawl'd. No disrespect to the Corvette, it's one of my favorite cars, but the assembly line and the people working there...lol.

 

[DougK62]

You're comparing fancy press photos of luxury facilities to an everyday photo of a re-purposed building that was built in the 80's. This is a fair comparison in your mind? LOL

 

[ThatsABigOne]

I like how the reliability of VW and even BMW sucks compared to GM and they still don't make a production car as fast as the Corvette ZR1.

I buy cars, not assembly lines.

GM vehicles are just as reliable as VW or BMW.

 

[natto fire]

GM vehicles are just as reliable as VW or BMW.

Actually the post you are quoting is saying GM has better reliability than VW or BMW. I have never owned and rarely drive cars from any of those makers, but a truck is a vehicle, and I have definitely driven a lot of durable GM trucks, the oldest being a '76 Sierra. I do know I hate working on the wiring in VWs.

 

[foghorn67]

OP failed hard.
That one BMW shot in Bavaria probably has 4-5 Broncolor strobes lighting up the joint.

 

[Dman8777]

I've toured a BMW plant in Munich where they build 3-series vehicles and it looked a lot more like a typical assembly line than the picture you have there. Cherry-picking pictures like that doesn't prove anything.

 

[OS]

lol atleast now i know who here actually builds a quality product at work..

the OP is mostly right, it doesn't have to have a hardwood floor but a clean production facility is a must.
It's a fundamental lean/5s directive, cleaner produces a higher quality product.

 

[AstroManLuca]

GM vehicles are just as reliable as VW or BMW.

Heh, they're actually quite a bit more reliable. "German engineering" is not the same as reliability; many German cars are over-engineered and require frequent, expensive repairs.

 

[soccerballtux]

I'd rather have the money I spend go into the car rather than a fancy wood floored assembly line.

if you want that money spent on the car you shouldn't be buying GM

 

[Bignate603]

if you want that money spent on the car you shouldn't be buying GM

Never had a problem with my GM cars, I wouldn't hesitate buying another one.

 

[alphatarget1]

The Phaeton? You mean the car that Volkswagen cancelled in America after 2 years because no one here had any interest in spending $80k base price on a Volkswagen, or $95k+ for the W12 version? Maybe if they hadn't wasted all that money on a fancy looking factory, they could have sold the car for less, and someone might have actually bought one.

Of other interest, I don't see any Beetle or Passat's on that assemby line. Where's the picture of that plant?

The only thing laugh worthy here is how stupid this thread is.

QFT. Honestly, only a bunch of retarded engineers will come up with engine designs like the W8, and only a retarded management will give the a-ok to produce them, like the ones from Volkswagen AG. BMW and Mercedes don't come up with crap like that.

 

[alphatarget1]

I was just browsing Autoblog and saw this picture showing the Volt assembly line:

(My comment has nothing to do with the workers themselves but rather the environment in which they are working.)

And I have to compare it to the likes of...

The VW Phaeton line in Dresden:

Or a BMW line in Bavaria:

No wonder we can't build cars for shit!

Yes, because German cars are known for their reliability... NOT.

More valid comparisons would probably be a VW factory in Mexico, or where they assemble the Golfs in Germany (Wolfsburg?). That "factory" in Dresden is a giant waste of money, it's like their version of a "stimulus" for the former GDR.

 

[angry hampster]

Having experienced some of the worst depreciation in the industry, most people could afford one now. There are 7 for sale within 300 miles of me on autotrader, and not one of them is listed for over $20k. Here's one for under $14k:

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.j...e=b&num_records=25&cardist=124&standard=false

They are maintenance nightmares, especially with the 12-cyl.

 

[Doppel]

I don't find the comparison very relevant I bet you can find a beautiful picture of a lamborghini production line and yet I bet you that GM has tweaked their manufacturing tighter than a niche manufacturer like lamborghini.

 

[XZeroII]

You're comparing fancy press photos of luxury facilities to an everyday photo of a re-purposed building that was built in the 80's. This is a fair comparison in your mind? LOL

exactly.

 

[michal1980]

QFT. Honestly, only a bunch of retarded engineers will come up with engine designs like the W8, and only a retarded management will give the a-ok to produce them, like the ones from Volkswagen AG. BMW and Mercedes don't come up with crap like that.

Do you work in engineering?

Because with my experance you have it backwards

 

[tfinch2]

Typical GTaudiophile hates America thread.

 

[alphatarget1]

Do you work in engineering?

Because with my experance you have it backwards

I guess you can swap the order of management/engineering in my post. I don't work in ME, no.