Have to laugh: GM's Archaic Assembly Line...

[erikistired]

Well, you've already posted a picture of the Phaeton plant. So let me post a picture of the plant for what I believe was the only $100k+ car that the Big 3 were producing during the 2004-06 timeframe that the Phaeton was being sold in the US:

http://www.muscularmustangs.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=678


So, how are these $100k cars doing today?

Here's is a fully loaded W12 Phaeton:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.j...e=b&num_records=25&cardist=450&standard=false

$19,545

Ford GT?

http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos...keid=33&makename=Ford&modelid=12&modelname=GT

Lowest listed is $152,975, and they go way up from there.

Should also be added that there are about 50% more Ford GT's in the US than Phaetons, so if you're looking for exclusivity, you need to go with the Phaeton here.


"Shit is only as good as what you put into it?"

Based on what Ford produced in that shed, and VW produced in theirs, it's quite obvious that all VW did with the Dresden plant was polish a turd. Shiny on the outside, crap on the inside.

yes, you can totally compare a limited release hand built supercar with anything pushed out of an assembly line. :/

here's an audi a8 assembly line pic, which goes for north of 100k.

 

[Meghan54]

Making something more complicated than it has to be is not over-engineering, it's German engineered.

ftfy

 

[Pia]

It's not a myth that Germans have a culture which values and expects precision and order. You can see it even in regular garages - they won't leave trash on the floor to be cleaned up at the end of the day, or tools laying around in random places. Whether this increases the quality of the end product or productivity, I'm not qualified to say, but my gut feeling says yes.

If you guys have had enough of posting random supercar assembly pics which tell exactly nothing about the manufacturer's overall attitude, here's a video of a normal BMW 3 series assembly line.
http://youtu.be/98JaDyV81yk

 

[foghorn67]

It's not a myth that Germans have a culture which values and expects precision and order. You can see it even in regular garages - they won't leave trash on the floor to be cleaned up at the end of the day, or tools laying around in random places. Whether this increases the quality of the end product or productivity, I'm not qualified to say, but my gut feeling says yes.

If you guys have had enough of posting random supercar assembly pics which tell exactly nothing about the manufacturer's overall attitude, here's a video of a normal BMW 3 series assembly line.
http://youtu.be/98JaDyV81yk

You are right.

but my gut feeling says yes.

You are wrong.

I love Audi's, I like VW's. But I couldn't recommend them to anyone save for a few, specific models and years.

 

[Svnla]

OP thinks that was bad? We had people with short, muscle shirt/wife beater, baseball hat backward, and on and so on at our lines.

<<---spent a few years with one of the largest auto makers.

 

[Mirox]

we had an 01 impala that came with huge gaps in the dashboard. Over time the gaps got bigger and you could see the glue. Not to mention that car was a money pit, there was always something going wrong with it. It had to have transmission replaced twice, first failure was 6-7 months after we got it!

VW and BMW reliability at their German plants is rock solid. BMW even has at least 1 plant that's churning out cars 100% issue free.

And yes they're as clean as you see them

 

[Pulsar]

we had an 01 impala that came with huge gaps in the dashboard. Over time the gaps got bigger and you could see the glue. Not to mention that car was a money pit, there was always something going wrong with it. It had to have transmission replaced twice, first failure was 6-7 months after we got it!

VW and BMW reliability at their German plants is rock solid. BMW even has at least 1 plant that's churning out cars 100% issue free.

And yes they're as clean as you see them

Stop lieing, stop fanboying, and go get some data instead of anecdotal evidence. German automakers are routinely horrible in quality, and every person even half-way educated about the auto industry knows it. Seriously. 3 months in service, IQS scores, 1 year in service, cost to own, TGW..... just about every measure of quality places the majority of German automobiles in the ass end of the fleet.

 

[IcePickFreak]

LOL at BMW's archaic assembly line..

They don't have shiny lights like the Chevy Volt assembly plant!

(Couldn't be that they all use the bright lighting on the finishing line where they check for paint flaws while buttoning the car up)

 

[maziwanka]

I like how the reliability of VW and even BMW sucks compared to GM and they still don't make a production car as fast as the Corvette ZR1.

I buy cars, not assembly lines.

yep