HardOCP Battlefield 4 beta performance test

[imaheadcase]

It sounds like their issue was in using Windows 7. BF4 runs much better (for both AMD and nvidia) in Windows 8, and I don't think will change in the release version of BF4.

Its already confirmed bug that is fixed in release.

 

[imaheadcase]

I never even noticed that, as I skipped the test configuration section.

Why any reviewer would even want to use Windows 7 for game testing anymore is beyond me. Windows 8 is a much better OS for gaming period..

Has anyone noticed such high system memory requirements as reported by HardOCP?

Its not better at all. More people use win 7 still than win 8 is why.

No i have not noticed high memory requirements, I play on a GTX 580 1.5gig and it uses almost 1gig of memory, about 4 gigs of system memory out of 8 i have.

I have NO clue what people are talking about FPS being better on WIN 8 vs 7, I've yet to see a repeat of FPS woes others have had. If you do its nothing to even worth mention +-few fps. Not only that, but BF4 settings are not repeatable at all, i've seen my fps go from 50-60fps, to 70fps in buildings, even drop down to 30fps when building falls for a few mins. You simply can't judge this beta for any card yet. Its already known this version of beta is behind release.

 

[XiandreX]

No, what is sad is that windows 8 is so poorly designed for the desktop. Up until now, there has been zero reason to switch. Also sad is that MS refused to allow the latest version of Direct X in win 7 in a lame attempt to force people to switch to win 8.

I really tried to like Win 8. I do in fact like it for tablets and maybe laptops, but for the desktop, it is an abomination.

I guess you have a very different view of the definition of abomination then.
Putting the start button aside... its far superior to Windows 7 overall and will continue to widen the gap as time goes on.

 

[imaheadcase]

I guess you have a very different view of the definition of abomination then.
Putting the start button aside... its far superior to Windows 7 overall and will continue to widen the gap as time goes on.

Far superior as in having exactly the same things available in win 7 through 3rd party software?

 

[ShintaiDK]

Its already confirmed bug that is fixed in release.

If thats the case, the it makes a lot of Win7 and Win8 arguments rather funny. But I couldnt see why Win8 should be so much faster anyway.

 

[Achilles97]

This is a great thread. Thanks to everyone for contributing. I had no interest in Win8 until reading this thread but now I am going to purchase a copy this weekend and give it a try.

 

[Grooveriding]

I think I may finally upgrade to Windows 8 then. I'll have to spend a few bucks at Stardock to change it to how I like it, but those are some massive gains and it's only going to continue in that direction.

http://ninite.com/

Just choose the Classic Start option, download and install. No need to spend a dime.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

This is a great thread. Thanks to everyone for contributing. I had no interest in Win8 until reading this thread but now I am going to purchase a copy this weekend and give it a try.

Just download the 8.1 preview if you want to give it a try, cause it's um, free.

 

[Nintendesert]

http://ninite.com/

Just choose the Classic Start option, download and install. No need to spend a dime.

Nice. Thanks.

 

[videogames101]

yeah so the latest bf4 patch improved my W7 performance by about 100%

 

[Face2Face]

yeah so the latest bf4 patch improved my W7 performance by about 100%

I noticed a huge difference as well. Plays like butter..

 

[Paul98]

Yeah much better frame rates now, not getting stutter ether.

 

[XiandreX]

Far superior as in having exactly the same things available in win 7 through 3rd party software?

Start button aside, the indexing is much improved, security is way better, faster startup and general system speed, Storage Space and File History, or the new Windows Explorer, or better multimonitor support.... need I go on?

 

[blackened23]

Start button aside, the indexing is much improved, security is way better, faster startup and general system speed, Storage Space and File History, or the new Windows Explorer, or better multimonitor support.... need I go on?

Most people who speak badly of Win 8.x have never used it. It's not worth bothering to explain the features that are far improved in 8, it will fall on deaf ears.

Of course, win 8.1 improves a lot over Win 8 as well. I don't expect the die hard win 7 base will hear of it, though.

 

[XiandreX]

Most people who speak badly of Win 8.x have never used it. It's not worth bothering to explain the features that are far improved in 8, it will fall on deaf ears.

Of course, win 8.1 improves a lot over Win 8 as well. I don't expect the die hard win 7 base will hear of it, though.

Sigh I know Blackened... its just sad people are so stuck on Windows 7 that they blindly downtrod Windows 8 and condemn it based on the visual difference.
I hope they revisit it once 8.1 launches. It truly is a big improvement.

 

[chimaxi83]

OT: So uhh... where can that cheap Windows 8 be had? :sneaky:

 

[Techhog]

Perhaps for you, but I personally found many reasons to switch from Windows 7.

Start is basically the worst reason not to like Windows 8 since free programs and cheap ones alike give you Windows 98 back.

You know your dislike of the start menu (which is likely just due to an "out with the old" mentality) will always be in the minority, right? Having two OSes mashed together into one and being forced to use both is ridiculously poor UI design. It's fast, it has a lot of cool features, but a bad UI is more than enough reason to not want to use an OS. Besides, it's not exactly a cheap upgrade. Expecting everyone to pay $100-200 on an OS the day it comes out, especially one with major downsides and incremental upgrades, is really silly.

That said, these sites should be testing both OSes, not just one.

 

[XiandreX]

You know your dislike of the start menu (which is likely just due to an "out with the old" mentality) will always be in the minority, right? Having two OSes mashed together into one and being forced to use both is ridiculously poor UI design. It's fast, it has a lot of cool features, but a bad UI is more than enough reason to not want to use an OS. Besides, it's not exactly a cheap upgrade. Expecting everyone to pay $100-200 on an OS the day it comes out, especially one with major downsides and incremental upgrades, is really silly.

That said, these sites should be testing both OSes, not just one.

Adding a start button via a third party (eg... classicshell) if thats what you are mentioning is not like meshing two Operating systems into one. Its tweaking visual differences. I do agree that having the start option should have been a off/on option from the start but its far from a deal breaker and the behind the scenes improvements are FAR in Windows 8 court than not.

 

[codyray10]

Buy Windows 8 for 40 bucks now. I mean, Windows 8 is cheap if you know where to look.

Where does one find a legit copy of 8 for this cheap? I could use another key.


Also, I run BF4 beta with the rig in my sig below using Win8. It has been a little buggy, but overall its ran quite well. I have not experienced any of the 6 core issues I have read about.

 

[Nintendesert]

Sigh I know Blackened... its just sad people are so stuck on Windows 7 that they blindly downtrod Windows 8 and condemn it based on the visual difference.
I hope they revisit it once 8.1 launches. It truly is a big improvement.

I have heard and am preparing to upgrade my Win7 to Win8. :wub:

 

[BallaTheFeared]

You know your dislike of the start menu

I don't dislike it, I'm just not attached to it.

Between the superbar, the desktop, and the improved start screen of 8.1 there is nothing to miss.

With Windows 8 I used a start replacer, Start8, StartisBack, ClassicShell, with 8.1 I don't even bother with them.

 

[wand3r3r]

This only applies to BF4, but more games may take advantage of Win 8.x in the future. Hopefully Win 7 performance can be brought up in comparison, and let's not kid ourselves here this is a game in beta status. The final game will be far more optimized for both Win 7 and Win 8. That said, I still think Win 8 will offer the best BF4 performance due to the DX 11.1 optimizations used - I don't think Win 7 will be on parity with Win 8 in BF4. In fact, DICE have made it clear that Windows 8.x offers the best BF4 experience even with the release version.

I'm still in awe at this. I wonder if it's accurate. 81 -> 114 FPS is crazy.
People have to upgrade WINDOWS and not their GPU.


For those that cling to the start menu, what do you use it for?

The control panel is a click away (right side of the screen).

The ~20 most common apps I use are pinned to the taskbar.

Need a different app or file? win + f and start typing. Quick and painless.

Email app, open it once and after that click the upper left corner to flip between the metro email app and the desktop.

On the other hand, I can see not wanting to drop $100+. It was on preorder for $40 a long time ago, I haven't checked the price since.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

It's probably not, the Windows 7 aspect of the game was/is probably just bugged.

That said it should still be faster and provide more features via 11.1 which are not present with Windows 7.

 

[GlacierFreeze]

yeah so the latest bf4 patch improved my W7 performance by about 100%

Figures.

 

[imaheadcase]

Start button aside, the indexing is much improved, security is way better, faster startup and general system speed, Storage Space and File History, or the new Windows Explorer, or better multimonitor support.... need I go on?

Yes please do, because none of that improves a OS.
Indexing? Don't need it on modern systems.
Security? Oh yah that is very important..since its for IE improvements.
faster startup? Yah that is great for the Mobile OS it was made for. I turn off computer if power to house goes out.
storage space and file history..are you serious? lol
Windows explorer! That I can't remember last time i used that.
Multimonitor users are minority. Its fine on Win 7 for most people.

Continue on PLEASE. Everything you mentioned is not worth a new OS at all.
Yes I do have Win 8 on a laptop and use it.

People don't bash it on its visual differences, people bash it because everything it offers is nothing exciting worth upgrading to. Its only going to get worse with MS wanting to release a new OS every year.