Guy wants to sue me over $200...

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jdoggg12

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Originally posted by: jdoggg12
You come here asking if we think you're responsible for your actions, then get pissed at the smart-azz remarks b/c you screwed up?

Dude, if you bid, you owe. Its not like you can accidentally bid, you have to confirm. You're learning a life lesson here, you need not rely on others to pay for you unless theres a written agreement - this includes your parents.

Put yourself in the sellers shoes. You paid $200 to list something, you find a buyer, and he backs out after he wins the auction b/c mommy and daddy decided not to pay for him. Would you sit on you azz and take it? Just be like "oh well... $200 is no big deal..."?

Man up and pay up.

To add to this - don't forget that what goes around comes around
 

Leros

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Sounds like you made an oral contract to buy the car for $10,000. Do oral contracts hold up in your state?
 

pontifex

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can't the seller jjust report an unpaying bidder or whatever its called and relist for free?
 

GuitarDaddy

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Originally posted by: pontifex
can't the seller jjust report an unpaying bidder or whatever its called and relist for free?

No, on regular ebay you can get back you final value fee. But you never get back the listing fee
 

TecHNooB

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Tagged cuz its 8 30 which leaves plenty of time left for self-pwnage. Bring on the night crew!!
 
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I thought ebay Motors was different, and that the bid wasn't binding until you had inspected the vehicle?
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
Originally posted by: pontifex
can't the seller jjust report an unpaying bidder or whatever its called and relist for free?

No, on regular ebay you can get back you final value fee. But you never get back the listing fee

well thats fvcking retarded. so even in situations like this the guy is screwed? can you post proof? that seems a bit harsh to me.

wait...i'm pretty sure i read posts here about that and they said they relisted for free because of a non-paying bidder.
 

Eeezee

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The fact that he won't reply to whether he actually put in a bid means he DID put in a bid. Either that or he did Buy It Now, but it doesn't matter in either case, he agreed to a legally binding contract.

If the Ebay seller wanted to, he could sue you for the full price of the car and any legal fees that he may incur. You owe him that much money. He owes you a vehicle once you pay him, but you're obligated to pay him the bid price plus shipping and any other fees tacked on. You signed a contract. Be THANKFUL that he only wants $200 and isn't suing your pants off because he would easily win if he brought it to court.

Pay the man $200 just to avoid the potential travesty that you're getting yourself into. If you don't pay him $200, you're just opening yourself to a world of hurt. Make sure you keep a printed paypal receipt just in case.
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: Eeezee
The fact that he won't reply to whether he actually put in a bid means he DID put in a bid. Either that or he did Buy It Now, but it doesn't matter in either case, he agreed to a legally binding contract.

If the Ebay seller wanted to, he could sue you for the full price of the car and any legal fees that he may incur. You owe him that much money. He owes you a vehicle once you pay him, but you're obligated to pay him the bid price plus shipping and any other fees tacked on. You signed a contract. Be THANKFUL that he only wants $200 and isn't suing your pants off because he would easily win if he brought it to court.

Pay the man $200 just to avoid the potential travesty that you're getting yourself into. If you don't pay him $200, you're just opening yourself to a world of hurt. Make sure you keep a printed paypal receipt just in case.

i thought its already been established that bidding on something on ebay is NOT a legally binding contract? otherwise, wouldn't we be hearing about tons of lawsuits over it?
 

smack Down

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Originally posted by: Eeezee
The fact that he won't reply to whether he actually put in a bid means he DID put in a bid. Either that or he did Buy It Now, but it doesn't matter in either case, he agreed to a legally binding contract.

If the Ebay seller wanted to, he could sue you for the full price of the car and any legal fees that he may incur. You owe him that much money. He owes you a vehicle once you pay him, but you're obligated to pay him the bid price plus shipping and any other fees tacked on. You signed a contract. Be THANKFUL that he only wants $200 and isn't suing your pants off because he would easily win if he brought it to court.

Pay the man $200 just to avoid the potential travesty that you're getting yourself into. If you don't pay him $200, you're just opening yourself to a world of hurt. Make sure you keep a printed paypal receipt just in case.

Sorry but if even if you do sue and win, you are not going to get the court to force the transaction to take place. The court is just going to order that your damages get paid. Your damages will be zero because you still have the car and ebay allows you to relist the car.
 

iversonyin

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Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
The standard fee for listing a vehicle on ebay is $90, you can however add options that increase that. For instance to feature it on the motors home page is another $100. So it's quite possible if it was a featured listing he did spend $200.

You should pay him the $200 and apologize. I doubt he would actually take you to court as it would cost him quite a bit. But if you don't pay the $200 expect to be banned from eBay at the least. Not a smart move, live and learn

Actually, if he did take it to small claim court...all the related fees would be charge to the defendant if he's found guilty. Shouldn't be more then $30-50 depend on where it is.
 

GuitarDaddy

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
Originally posted by: pontifex
can't the seller jjust report an unpaying bidder or whatever its called and relist for free?

No, on regular ebay you can get back you final value fee. But you never get back the listing fee

well thats fvcking retarded. so even in situations like this the guy is screwed? can you post proof? that seems a bit harsh to me.

wait...i'm pretty sure i read posts here about that and they said they relisted for free because of a non-paying bidder.


I know, unfortunately because it has happened to me:(

http://pages.ebay.com/help/tp/unpaid-item-process.html

If you notice it says you will be refunded the "final value fee", but nowhere does it say you will get the listing fee back.

 

pontifex

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straight from ebay:

If you list an item and it doesn't sell, or if your buyer does not pay, you may qualify for a credit by relisting the item. If the item sells the second time, eBay will refund the Insertion Fee for the relisting.


 

GuitarDaddy

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Originally posted by: pontifex
straight from ebay:

If you list an item and it doesn't sell, or if your buyer does not pay, you may qualify for a credit by relisting the item. If the item sells the second time, eBay will refund the Insertion Fee for the relisting.

And thats for regular ebay, not ebay motors.

Beleive me I fought tooth and nail to get a listing back when someone backed out on a motorcycle auction to no avail.

I know you would love to beleive you can be totally irresponsible and it doesn't harm anyone, but it does
 

smack Down

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Just tell the seller you are under 18, which it sounds like you are, and can't make a contract so he can go pound sand.