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child of wonder

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Been running Vista Ultimate x64 for over 2 years with very few issues. Looking forward to Windows 7.
 

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Originally posted by: TheVrolok
I've not had a single problem with Vista x64 on my machine. Been running it for 2 years now. Having said that, I'm still looking forward to 7.

Bam!

I love Vista. I upgraded to the Windows 7 already and me love.. It's vista but with some fixes(Like it boots from sleep mode practically instantly now) and is a bit snappier and prettier. :)
 

pcslookout

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Originally posted by: schneiderguy
I still don't understand all of the hate Vista gets. Windows7 is the exact same thing with a new taskbar and all of a sudden its teh best OS evar!1!!! Sure, it's better, but its not that much better :confused:

:thumbsup:
 

pcslookout

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: schneiderguy
I still don't understand all of the hate Vista gets. Windows7 is the exact same thing with a new taskbar and all of a sudden its teh best OS evar!1!!! Sure, it's better, but its not that much better :confused:

7 is noticeably faster, and much more consistent.

I've seen Vista run great on average machines (Athlon 64 3200+, 2GB of Ram, 250GB 7200rpm Sata, integrated video), and then inexplicably run like total smashed assholes on systems it should fly on (last example : clean install on an HP Notebook w/2.26ghz C2D, Nvidia 9600M 512MB Dedicated GPU, 500GB 7200RPM 2.5", 4GB Dual-Channel PC6400/DDR2-800, etc).

Of the couple dozen systems I've run 7 on, from lowly Atom-based netbooks with 1GB all the way to core i7 920, it consistently performs. Of the ~150+ systems I've seen Vista on, sometimes it runs superb, sometimes it just runs like shit. Some of it is the OEM crapware, but frequently there is no rational explanation.

I dare you to true to run dual monitors on Windows 7 and Windows Vista. Then tell me which one does it better.

Right now Windows Vista. I know that could change but there is some major issues when using dual monitors right now on Windows 7.
 

JM Aggie08

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They taught us the bandwagon effect in 5th grade.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with vista. Been running it for two years without a snag. 7 is just that much smoother.
 

pcslookout

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Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: schneiderguy
I still don't understand all of the hate Vista gets. Windows7 is the exact same thing with a new taskbar and all of a sudden its teh best OS evar!1!!! Sure, it's better, but its not that much better :confused:

7 is noticeably faster, and much more consistent.

I've seen Vista run great on average machines (Athlon 64 3200+, 2GB of Ram, 250GB 7200rpm Sata, integrated video), and then inexplicably run like total smashed assholes on systems it should fly on (last example : clean install on an HP Notebook w/2.26ghz C2D, Nvidia 9600M 512MB Dedicated GPU, 500GB 7200RPM 2.5", 4GB Dual-Channel PC6400/DDR2-800, etc).

Of the couple dozen systems I've run 7 on, from lowly Atom-based netbooks with 1GB all the way to core i7 920, it consistently performs. Of the ~150+ systems I've seen Vista on, sometimes it runs superb, sometimes it just runs like shit. Some of it is the OEM crapware, but frequently there is no rational explanation.

how much software is loaded at startup? how long has the system been on?

Vista runs awesome when I first boot. If I leave firefox running with a lot of tabs, it starts getting slow, and Zune starts getting problems keeping audio running clean. I often leave firefox running for awhile, and after the memory use just builds up something insane, I have to kill firefox and load up the session again.
Windows Sidebar also has some memory leak issues, specifically there is a gadget or two that I run that must have some serious memory flaws because just today I saw Sidebar reached some 700mb of memory use! (I don't use the sidebar, rather have the desktops floating free on the desktop, quite a few)

All that combined, at some point Vista will feel so bogged down, but literally it is as the memory use from everything is terrible.

When other programs aren't at fault, Vista consistently stays snappy.

Whenever I can get a deal on 7 Ultimate, I'm going to upgrade. Saw a $30 deal from Microsoft for Windows Home Premium upgrade, but I cannot perform a real upgrade since I have Vista Ultimate (from the Ultimate Steal).
I might get one that $30 version for my laptop though. Still has the first Windows 7 Beta on it, and it is nagging me about it not being legitimate now. I love Windows 7.

Looking forward to whenever I get 7 on my desktop system, as I have a dock program, and I absolutely love Windows 7's dockbar. Far and away better than a lone dock program, integrated so much better and I love the jump lists for programs that support it.


Yeah firefox is a huge memory hog. I dare anyone to stop running firefox and run a different browser for a few days and watch how different your system feels. Then again that is if you keep firefox open all the time.
 

Duddy

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This video was made when Vista was new and it was popular to hate on it.

Also, the guy in this video is Anthony from the Opie and Anthony show. I guess no one on ATOT lives in New York city or listens to XM.
 

Mike Gayner

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Originally posted by: adlep
Good luck trying to remove spyware from Vista. If you touch a wrong directory, the WPA system will bitch during the startup and asking you to "activate" it. From a computer service person perspective - like me, Vista is a total piece of garbage that it difficult to work with and runs like an absolute crap on "most" of the machines...
Did I mention that it also "blocks" itself? Now how can you install an OS on your computer that "blocks" itself?

I think you need to be better at your job TBH.
 

pcslookout

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Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: Scholzpdx
Jesus Christ.

Anyone touting Win7 over Vista is a tool. It's even less of a difference from Windows 2000 pro to XP pro. It uses essentially the same services. Everything was exactly as fast on Vista as Win7.

Yea, it amuses me, all the people who are acting like Win7's the second coming. It's Vista with a tweaked gui, and a couple of parlor tricks to /appear/ faster. It's ok. If I bought a computer with Win7, I wouldn't wipe it in favor of Vista, but given the choice, I prefer a couple of things Vista has(mostly gui items), so that's what I'm keeping.

It is quite a laugh! Yeah Windows Vista has movie maker, windows mail (I know you can install these on windows 7 but still) and dual monitors at the moment work a lot better on Vista than 7.

No one I know of can get dual monitors working on Windows 7 as well as it does on Windows Vista. It works just not nearly as good.
 

Mike Gayner

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Originally posted by: pcslookout
Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: Scholzpdx
Jesus Christ.

Anyone touting Win7 over Vista is a tool. It's even less of a difference from Windows 2000 pro to XP pro. It uses essentially the same services. Everything was exactly as fast on Vista as Win7.

Yea, it amuses me, all the people who are acting like Win7's the second coming. It's Vista with a tweaked gui, and a couple of parlor tricks to /appear/ faster. It's ok. If I bought a computer with Win7, I wouldn't wipe it in favor of Vista, but given the choice, I prefer a couple of things Vista has(mostly gui items), so that's what I'm keeping.

It is quite a laugh! Yeah Windows Vista has movie maker, windows mail (I know you can install these on windows 7 but still) and dual monitors at the moment work a lot better on Vista than 7.

No one I know of can get dual monitors working on Windows 7 as well as it does on Windows Vista. It works just not nearly as good.

?? What's the problem? I'm running dual monitors now and it's just fine as far as I can tell. Just as easy as Vista.
 

pcslookout

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Originally posted by: oogabooga
I think all the vista hate came because people who don't know much heard it on the news and bitched about it. I was working tech support for a credit card processing company and people kept asking 'hearing a lot about how bad that vista is, is that what's causing my problems?" from people who were having trouble with their computers, except they were on windows 2000.

I do like windows 7 better than vista personally and think it is better. But Vista Ultimate was just fine on my machine. The only thing that didn't work was my TV tuner, and that's only cause i was on the 64 bit version of vista, I'd have had the same problems in XP 64bit.

A lot of tv tuner cards don't work on 64 bit versions of any OS.

You want to hear something really crazy ? Even some tv tuners refuse to work if you have over 4 GB of ram. Now isn't that crazy ? I know this from first hand experience. You take out one stick of ram or do a certain boot.ini edit so the system only sees 4 GB of ram total the tv tuner card will start to work fine. I preferred the second method because I am not pulling out hardware just to see if my tv tuner will work now. Thankfully I don't need to use it but still I would of never thought having more than 4 GB of ram would make a tv tuner card stop working lol.
 

pcslookout

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Originally posted by: Mike Gayner
Originally posted by: pcslookout
Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: Scholzpdx
Jesus Christ.

Anyone touting Win7 over Vista is a tool. It's even less of a difference from Windows 2000 pro to XP pro. It uses essentially the same services. Everything was exactly as fast on Vista as Win7.

Yea, it amuses me, all the people who are acting like Win7's the second coming. It's Vista with a tweaked gui, and a couple of parlor tricks to /appear/ faster. It's ok. If I bought a computer with Win7, I wouldn't wipe it in favor of Vista, but given the choice, I prefer a couple of things Vista has(mostly gui items), so that's what I'm keeping.

It is quite a laugh! Yeah Windows Vista has movie maker, windows mail (I know you can install these on windows 7 but still) and dual monitors at the moment work a lot better on Vista than 7.

No one I know of can get dual monitors working on Windows 7 as well as it does on Windows Vista. It works just not nearly as good.

?? What's the problem? I'm running dual monitors now and it's just fine as far as I can tell. Just as easy as Vista.

Are you a gamer if so what games do you play? Yes this involves the dual monitor problem.
 

Mike Gayner

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Originally posted by: pcslookout
Originally posted by: Mike Gayner
Originally posted by: pcslookout
Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: Scholzpdx
Jesus Christ.

Anyone touting Win7 over Vista is a tool. It's even less of a difference from Windows 2000 pro to XP pro. It uses essentially the same services. Everything was exactly as fast on Vista as Win7.

Yea, it amuses me, all the people who are acting like Win7's the second coming. It's Vista with a tweaked gui, and a couple of parlor tricks to /appear/ faster. It's ok. If I bought a computer with Win7, I wouldn't wipe it in favor of Vista, but given the choice, I prefer a couple of things Vista has(mostly gui items), so that's what I'm keeping.

It is quite a laugh! Yeah Windows Vista has movie maker, windows mail (I know you can install these on windows 7 but still) and dual monitors at the moment work a lot better on Vista than 7.

No one I know of can get dual monitors working on Windows 7 as well as it does on Windows Vista. It works just not nearly as good.

?? What's the problem? I'm running dual monitors now and it's just fine as far as I can tell. Just as easy as Vista.

Are you a gamer if so what games do you play? Yes this involves the dual monitor problem.

Yes I'm a gamer. Lately it's COD4, Fallout 3, The Witcher, Bioshock, Company of Heroes, Far Cry 2 and a few others, including a few I play in a window like Trials 2 and SF4. I never have any problems running dual monitors.
 

adairusmc

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Originally posted by: Duddy
This video was made when Vista was new and it was popular to hate on it.

Also, the guy in this video is Anthony from the Opie and Anthony show. I guess no one on ATOT lives in New York city or listens to XM.

Anyone with taste listens to Howard Stern and Bubba the Love Sponge instead.
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: TheVrolok
I've not had a single problem with Vista x64 on my machine. Been running it for 2 years now. Having said that, I'm still looking forward to 7.

Same. Not had a single issue on Vista 64 since I've installed it. *shrugs*.
 

pcslookout

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Originally posted by: Mike Gayner
Originally posted by: pcslookout
Originally posted by: Mike Gayner
Originally posted by: pcslookout
Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: Scholzpdx
Jesus Christ.

Anyone touting Win7 over Vista is a tool. It's even less of a difference from Windows 2000 pro to XP pro. It uses essentially the same services. Everything was exactly as fast on Vista as Win7.

Yea, it amuses me, all the people who are acting like Win7's the second coming. It's Vista with a tweaked gui, and a couple of parlor tricks to /appear/ faster. It's ok. If I bought a computer with Win7, I wouldn't wipe it in favor of Vista, but given the choice, I prefer a couple of things Vista has(mostly gui items), so that's what I'm keeping.

It is quite a laugh! Yeah Windows Vista has movie maker, windows mail (I know you can install these on windows 7 but still) and dual monitors at the moment work a lot better on Vista than 7.

No one I know of can get dual monitors working on Windows 7 as well as it does on Windows Vista. It works just not nearly as good.

?? What's the problem? I'm running dual monitors now and it's just fine as far as I can tell. Just as easy as Vista.

Are you a gamer if so what games do you play? Yes this involves the dual monitor problem.

Yes I'm a gamer. Lately it's COD4, Fallout 3, The Witcher, Bioshock, Company of Heroes, Far Cry 2 and a few others, including a few I play in a window like Trials 2 and SF4. I never have any problems running dual monitors.

Do you play CSS ?

 

pontifex

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hmm...vista works fine for me. sure it works a little differently than XP and might take some getting used to, but it works fine. It's actually faster than XP for me.
 

sonoma1993

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Originally posted by: Mike Gayner
Originally posted by: adlep
Good luck trying to remove spyware from Vista. If you touch a wrong directory, the WPA system will bitch during the startup and asking you to "activate" it. From a computer service person perspective - like me, Vista is a total piece of garbage that it difficult to work with and runs like an absolute crap on "most" of the machines...
Did I mention that it also "blocks" itself? Now how can you install an OS on your computer that "blocks" itself?

I think you need to be better at your job TBH.


I agree, he needs to be better at his job,

The acer laptop my sister has, it has windows vista home premium on it. It got infected with Antivirus 2008/2009 malware or whatever it called now. Had her download and install malwarebytes, update it and run it in safemode. An hour or so later, it clear the crap out. And her laptop been running fine ever since

I also was running Windows Vista Ultimate on my laptop, Which is an Dell latidue 120L. It has an intel mobile chip running 1.73GHZ, singe core, 2GB DDR2 memory, 80GB IDE hard drive. The motherboard was using the intel 910/915 chipset and for video as well. Vista ran fine on that laptop.
 

sonoma1993

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Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Originally posted by: guyver01
Originally posted by: WA261
To bad Vista sux ass.

vista is actually pretty damn decent.

I'm running Vista Ultimate and it runs fine on my PC
Specs:
Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4600+ 2.4GHz
4 GB RAM
250 GB HDD (110 GB free)
nVidia GeForce 9400 GT 1024Mb PCIe 2.0

It's garbage. Today, I spent an hour installing a fucking printer. I had some problems that required rebooting and reboots took like 5 minutes! And then I couldn't share it over a network. Vista is garbage.

sounds like an user error problem to me!
 

Mike Gayner

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Originally posted by: pcslookout
Originally posted by: Mike Gayner
Originally posted by: pcslookout
Originally posted by: Mike Gayner
Originally posted by: pcslookout
Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: Scholzpdx
Jesus Christ.

Anyone touting Win7 over Vista is a tool. It's even less of a difference from Windows 2000 pro to XP pro. It uses essentially the same services. Everything was exactly as fast on Vista as Win7.

Yea, it amuses me, all the people who are acting like Win7's the second coming. It's Vista with a tweaked gui, and a couple of parlor tricks to /appear/ faster. It's ok. If I bought a computer with Win7, I wouldn't wipe it in favor of Vista, but given the choice, I prefer a couple of things Vista has(mostly gui items), so that's what I'm keeping.

It is quite a laugh! Yeah Windows Vista has movie maker, windows mail (I know you can install these on windows 7 but still) and dual monitors at the moment work a lot better on Vista than 7.

No one I know of can get dual monitors working on Windows 7 as well as it does on Windows Vista. It works just not nearly as good.

?? What's the problem? I'm running dual monitors now and it's just fine as far as I can tell. Just as easy as Vista.

Are you a gamer if so what games do you play? Yes this involves the dual monitor problem.

Yes I'm a gamer. Lately it's COD4, Fallout 3, The Witcher, Bioshock, Company of Heroes, Far Cry 2 and a few others, including a few I play in a window like Trials 2 and SF4. I never have any problems running dual monitors.

Do you play CSS ?

No but I play other source titles.
 

Red Squirrel

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Those who don't have issues with Vista arn't computer techs and don't have to touch any vista machine but their own, and they're also not power users so they are just basic users that opened up their new PC and used it out of the box, and the most complex thing they did may of been to install a game. Sure, it will run fine for those users.

If you're a tech assisting or even remoting in to 100's of PCs per day fixing all sorts of issues, you quickly realize how POS vista is. One of my pet peves with Vista when it comes to remote support is the lack of telnet client. WTF? I know I can install it, but I'm not going to start asking users to put in their CD (99% of the time they wont have it) so I can install something that should already be installed in first place. It's like win98's winipcfg tool. Why did they remove it? It was a useful tool for remote troubleshooting. Easier then trying to get the user to go to run, type cmd and then type ipconfig. Tons of other issues like this which are only relevant when supporting the OS.

IMO the best OS to support would be Linux. Would be awesome to be able to just SSH in and fix problems without even affecting the user.
 

pcslookout

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Originally posted by: Scholzpdx
I game, have Vista and dual monitors. No issue at all here.

Dual monitors on Vista work great the problem is on Windows 7 depending on the game. The other problem is with videos on Windows 7 depending on how they are encoded.