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Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: Stefan
Guns are the most cowardly weapon man has ever invented (well maybe next to a nuclear bomb). I don't mind if people use a gun for target practice or even killing an occasional deer/duck, etc IF you plan on eating it. (You "sport hunters" who kill animals and just leave the bodies disgust me).

Anyone who uses a gun on a human is a coward. The criminal who uses one to rob a bank is a coward and the person who tries to defend themselves is a coward, although I can see justification in having a gun to protect yourself. There is no respect for life when you use a gun. It's too easy to kill someone.

How about if I use a car? Or an airplane maybe?
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: Stefan
Guns are the most cowardly weapon man has ever invented (well maybe next to a nuclear bomb). I don't mind if people use a gun for target practice or even killing an occasional deer/duck, etc IF you plan on eating it. (You "sport hunters" who kill animals and just leave the bodies disgust me).

Anyone who uses a gun on a human is a coward. The criminal who uses one to rob a bank is a coward and the person who tries to defend themselves is a coward, although I can see justification in having a gun to protect yourself. There is no respect for life when you use a gun. It's too easy to kill someone.

yeap im a coward. I do not want my wife or daughter harmed.
 

shiner

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: Stefan
Guns are the most cowardly weapon man has ever invented (well maybe next to a nuclear bomb). I don't mind if people use a gun for target practice or even killing an occasional deer/duck, etc IF you plan on eating it. (You "sport hunters" who kill animals and just leave the bodies disgust me).

Anyone who uses a gun on a human is a coward. The criminal who uses one to rob a bank is a coward and the person who tries to defend themselves is a coward, although I can see justification in having a gun to protect yourself. There is no respect for life when you use a gun. It's too easy to kill someone.

:roll:
 

Mookow

Lifer
Apr 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: dudeman007
You live in Ohio. WTF happens there. I live in freakin LA. I don't have to carry a freakin knife like an idiot. You act smart on the streets and youll have no worries.

I know you are thinking "Well, dont go to those bad places". But sometimes you have to go to places like that for one reason or another. Or sometimes you live in places like that because you cannot yet afford the rent in a better neighborhood. But I guess since you dont feel the need to carry, no one else should be allowed. And if people carry anything of value on them, they're stupid, because it's better to just give the thugs everything you own and hope they only beat on you a little, right?

You cant always carry around an Akita, though they do make a great equalizer when three guys try to jump you.
 

Kaervak

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Jul 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Stefan
Guns are the most cowardly weapon man has ever invented (well maybe next to a nuclear bomb). I don't mind if people use a gun for target practice or even killing an occasional deer/duck, etc IF you plan on eating it. (You "sport hunters" who kill animals and just leave the bodies disgust me).

Anyone who uses a gun on a human is a coward. The criminal who uses one to rob a bank is a coward and the person who tries to defend themselves is a coward, although I can see justification in having a gun to protect yourself. There is no respect for life when you use a gun. It's too easy to kill someone.

So a 110lbs woman that uses a gun to stop a 250lbs man from raping/murdering her is a coward? Even if she doesn't fire it?
 

Kalvin00

Lifer
Jan 11, 2003
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Originally posted by: Stefan

the person who tries to defend themselves is a coward, although I can see justification in having a gun to protect yourself.

Contradicted yourself there, eh?
 

bradruth

Lifer
Aug 9, 2002
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Originally posted by: Stefan
Guns are the most cowardly weapon man has ever invented (well maybe next to a nuclear bomb). I don't mind if people use a gun for target practice or even killing an occasional deer/duck, etc IF you plan on eating it. (You "sport hunters" who kill animals and just leave the bodies disgust me).

Anyone who uses a gun on a human is a coward. The criminal who uses one to rob a bank is a coward and the person who tries to defend themselves is a coward, although I can see justification in having a gun to protect yourself. There is no respect for life when you use a gun. It's too easy to kill someone.

So let's say I'm called to a bank robbery in progress. The suspects have everyone taken hostage and I enter the bank and kill one or more of them. Am I a coward?
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: Stefan
Guns are the most cowardly weapon man has ever invented (well maybe next to a nuclear bomb). I don't mind if people use a gun for target practice or even killing an occasional deer/duck, etc IF you plan on eating it. (You "sport hunters" who kill animals and just leave the bodies disgust me).

Anyone who uses a gun on a human is a coward. The criminal who uses one to rob a bank is a coward and the person who tries to defend themselves is a coward, although I can see justification in having a gun to protect yourself. There is no respect for life when you use a gun. It's too easy to kill someone.

So let's say I'm called to a bank robbery in progress. The suspects have everyone taken hostage and I enter the bank and kill one or more of them. Am I a coward?

yes you are! you fvucking pansy!


heh stefen has lost it. really.
 

shiner

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: Stefan
Guns are the most cowardly weapon man has ever invented (well maybe next to a nuclear bomb). I don't mind if people use a gun for target practice or even killing an occasional deer/duck, etc IF you plan on eating it. (You "sport hunters" who kill animals and just leave the bodies disgust me).

Anyone who uses a gun on a human is a coward. The criminal who uses one to rob a bank is a coward and the person who tries to defend themselves is a coward, although I can see justification in having a gun to protect yourself. There is no respect for life when you use a gun. It's too easy to kill someone.

So let's say I'm called to a bank robbery in progress. The suspects have everyone taken hostage and I enter the bank and kill one or more of them. Am I a coward?

Yes.....unless you use a Nerf bat or piece of string to do so.
;)
 

Fingolfin269

Lifer
Feb 28, 2003
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Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: Stefan
Guns are the most cowardly weapon man has ever invented (well maybe next to a nuclear bomb). I don't mind if people use a gun for target practice or even killing an occasional deer/duck, etc IF you plan on eating it. (You "sport hunters" who kill animals and just leave the bodies disgust me).

Anyone who uses a gun on a human is a coward. The criminal who uses one to rob a bank is a coward and the person who tries to defend themselves is a coward, although I can see justification in having a gun to protect yourself. There is no respect for life when you use a gun. It's too easy to kill someone.

So let's say I'm called to a bank robbery in progress. The suspects have everyone taken hostage and I enter the bank and kill one or more of them. Am I a coward?

I would have to say... YES, you are most definately a coward. A real man would have walked in, taken off his shirt to display the 'S' on his chest, and then proceeded to whip the asses of the cowardly hostage-takers with his bare hands.
 

bradruth

Lifer
Aug 9, 2002
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Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: Stefan
Guns are the most cowardly weapon man has ever invented (well maybe next to a nuclear bomb). I don't mind if people use a gun for target practice or even killing an occasional deer/duck, etc IF you plan on eating it. (You "sport hunters" who kill animals and just leave the bodies disgust me).

Anyone who uses a gun on a human is a coward. The criminal who uses one to rob a bank is a coward and the person who tries to defend themselves is a coward, although I can see justification in having a gun to protect yourself. There is no respect for life when you use a gun. It's too easy to kill someone.

So let's say I'm called to a bank robbery in progress. The suspects have everyone taken hostage and I enter the bank and kill one or more of them. Am I a coward?

Yes.....unless you use a Nerf bat or piece of string to do so.
;)

I'll see if I can requisition the PD to get the necessary equipment. ;)
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: Stefan
Guns are the most cowardly weapon man has ever invented (well maybe next to a nuclear bomb). I don't mind if people use a gun for target practice or even killing an occasional deer/duck, etc IF you plan on eating it. (You "sport hunters" who kill animals and just leave the bodies disgust me).

Anyone who uses a gun on a human is a coward. The criminal who uses one to rob a bank is a coward and the person who tries to defend themselves is a coward, although I can see justification in having a gun to protect yourself. There is no respect for life when you use a gun. It's too easy to kill someone.

So let's say I'm called to a bank robbery in progress. The suspects have everyone taken hostage and I enter the bank and kill one or more of them. Am I a coward?

Yes.....unless you use a Nerf bat or piece of string to do so.
;)



dont knock nerf bats or wiffle ball bats. when i was 12 my cousin hit me in the head with one. i had to get 12 stitches from it =(
 

Isshinryu

Senior member
May 28, 2004
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Originally posted by: Stefan
Guns are the most cowardly weapon man has ever invented (well maybe next to a nuclear bomb). I don't mind if people use a gun for target practice or even killing an occasional deer/duck, etc IF you plan on eating it. (You "sport hunters" who kill animals and just leave the bodies disgust me).

Anyone who uses a gun on a human is a coward. The criminal who uses one to rob a bank is a coward and the person who tries to defend themselves is a coward, although I can see justification in having a gun to protect yourself. There is no respect for life when you use a gun. It's too easy to kill someone.

I shall now go out to my backyard and kill 3 rabbits and 5 squirrels with my Springfield (overkill, huh? ;)), and then I shall burn their carcasses over an open fire...just for fun. :)
 

Mookow

Lifer
Apr 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: Stefan
Guns are the most cowardly weapon man has ever invented (well maybe next to a nuclear bomb). I don't mind if people use a gun for target practice or even killing an occasional deer/duck, etc IF you plan on eating it. (You "sport hunters" who kill animals and just leave the bodies disgust me).

Anyone who uses a gun on a human is a coward. The criminal who uses one to rob a bank is a coward and the person who tries to defend themselves is a coward, although I can see justification in having a gun to protect yourself. There is no respect for life when you use a gun. It's too easy to kill someone.

So anytime a woman protects herself from a man (and you can generally assume that the man is larger and stronger than her), and does so by using a gun, it is cowardly? Try smart. Fair play went out the window the day a caveman looked at a rock and figured out that by throwing it he could hurt people without letting them get close enough to hurt him. Guns are just very efficient rock throwing aids.

Try stepping away from the computer and living a little in the real world.
 

DT4K

Diamond Member
Jan 21, 2002
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I would think Stefan is being sarcastic if I hadn't read some of his other crap on here.
 

dudeman007

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Apr 6, 2004
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Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: dudeman007
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: dudeman007
Originally posted by: edro13
Originally posted by: dudeman007
Originally posted by: edro13
Originally posted by: dudeman007
Originally posted by: Kalvin00
Originally posted by: dudeman007
pathetic
You people are just asking for trouble. What the hell are you doing then. Selling drugs?
Asking for trouble? WTF? It's not like he goes around waving his knife in the air :roll:
It's so dumb. You're not gonna get attacked. There's no reason to promote violence having weapons in your possesion. Yeah obviously he doesn't wave it around, but it's not setting a very good example carrying around a knife.
OMFG! Is this kid serious? Setting an example? For who? Are you guarenteeing me that I will not get attacked? You sure are an optimist! LOL! There is NO ONE on Earth that can convince me otherwise...
You live in Ohio. WTF happens there. I live in freakin LA. I don't have to carry a freakin knife like an idiot. You act smart on the streets and youll have no worries.

Columbus had over 120 homocides last year, the highest in it's history... again, you can;t change my mind about this. Go home and play hop scotch in from of your Beverly Hills, white picket fence home.


what the @#$*( are you talking about. I see kids get beat up on the streets all the time. Why? Because they are STUPID. Walk around with diamond earrings and walkmans, crap like that. If you get beat up then it means that you obviously

Rofl, so now you're saying that people shouldn't be able to walk around with a WALKman and feel safe in doing so?

I know some guy who was almost killed. Some guys beat the crap out of him for his walkman

And if your friend had a knife he could have ended that real quick. You're arguing against yourself. Or are you saying that not only is it dumb to carry a knife, but it's also not 'smart' to carry a walkman? I'm really lost because this doesn't make sense. :p

Ok people you're not getting it. Look if that guy would have stabbed the other guy, he would have been screwed. First, because he was taken 2 on 1, the guys would have found the knife and used it on him. Second if he did anything, it would only provoke the other guys. It's not safe to carry anything worth some significant money because thugs off the streets will go for anything like that. That's all I'm trying to say.

Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: dudeman007
You live in Ohio. WTF happens there. I live in freakin LA. I don't have to carry a freakin knife like an idiot. You act smart on the streets and youll have no worries.

I know you are thinking "Well, dont go to those bad places". But sometimes you have to go to places like that for one reason or another. Or sometimes you live in places like that because you cannot yet afford the rent in a better neighborhood. But I guess since you dont feel the need to carry, no one else should be allowed. And if people carry anything of value on them, they're stupid, because it's better to just give the thugs everything you own and hope they only beat on you a little, right?

You cant always carry around an Akita, though they do make a great equalizer when three guys try to jump you.[/]

This is somewhat true though. Alright I have to say that I am wrong here. But most people are way to over protective of themselves. Many people just don't know what a true bad area is. Also a point the get across is that often if you get beaten up, its often by more than one guy and they will often find your weapon. If that happens, you're screwed.
 

jjones

Lifer
Oct 9, 2001
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Originally posted by: Stefan
Guns are the most cowardly weapon man has ever invented (well maybe next to a nuclear bomb). I don't mind if people use a gun for target practice or even killing an occasional deer/duck, etc IF you plan on eating it. (You "sport hunters" who kill animals and just leave the bodies disgust me).

Anyone who uses a gun on a human is a coward. The criminal who uses one to rob a bank is a coward and the person who tries to defend themselves is a coward, although I can see justification in having a gun to protect yourself. There is no respect for life when you use a gun. It's too easy to kill someone.
I guess you could say the same thing for a bow then. They were both devised to hurl a projectile at speed and with accuracy.

A gun is a tool. How you use it defines whether or not you are cowardly. To ambush someone in order to shoot them dead is cowardly. To defend yourself from a dangerous attacker is not. For you to call someone who defends themselves a coward just boggles the mind. I guess you would prefer it if the criminals just had open season on citizens, but most of us wouldn't agree with you.
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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Guns are evil person killing things that have no place in modern society. No one needs guns anymore to protect themselves from crime or wild animals. We have this thing called police who we pay to protect us and will always be right there when we call. Anyway, it?s not like a government would ever force its citizens to do something against their collective will. When has that ever happened?

As far as sporting use goes, they are too dangerous to be used safely and can go off at any moment thereby hurting or killing innocent people. Hunting is a barbaric practice that has outlived its usefulness and should be made illegal because it is no longer needed.

As a matter of fact, any weapon that can kill or hurt should be outlawed. Crime should drop to practically zero then. Any other situation where you are threatened should be avoidable by never going out at night, traveling, or carrying anything of value. You should always be able to reason with the person who wants to inflict bodily harm so that?s not a concern either.
 

Kalvin00

Lifer
Jan 11, 2003
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Originally posted by: K1052

As far as sporting use goes, they are too dangerous to be used safely and can go off at any moment thereby hurting or killing innocent people. Hunting is a barbaric practice that has outlived its usefulness and should be made illegal because it is no longer needed.

Too dangerous? Sorry, but if you take all available precautions, NO firearm accidents will EVER occur.

Hunting is no longer needed? Hello, without hunting, species would become overpopulated and possibly become extinct.
 

BigToque

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: jjones
Originally posted by: Stefan
Guns are the most cowardly weapon man has ever invented (well maybe next to a nuclear bomb). I don't mind if people use a gun for target practice or even killing an occasional deer/duck, etc IF you plan on eating it. (You "sport hunters" who kill animals and just leave the bodies disgust me).

Anyone who uses a gun on a human is a coward. The criminal who uses one to rob a bank is a coward and the person who tries to defend themselves is a coward, although I can see justification in having a gun to protect yourself. There is no respect for life when you use a gun. It's too easy to kill someone.
I guess you could say the same thing for a bow then. They were both devised to hurl a projectile at speed and with accuracy.

A gun is a tool. How you use it defines whether or not you are cowardly. To ambush someone in order to shoot them dead is cowardly. To defend yourself from a dangerous attacker is not. For you to call someone who defends themselves a coward just boggles the mind. I guess you would prefer it if the criminals just had open season on citizens, but most of us wouldn't agree with you.

Well I agree with what you are saying and that would have been more fitting for what I was trying to say, however I would like to make a comment. I think that people should be trained in some kind of self defense. A 100lb woman can take down a 250lb man if she knows how to defend herself. Maybe what I should say is that using a gun should be the very last line of defense if everything else fails.
 

Kaervak

Diamond Member
Jul 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Kalvin00
Originally posted by: K1052

As far as sporting use goes, they are too dangerous to be used safely and can go off at any moment thereby hurting or killing innocent people. Hunting is a barbaric practice that has outlived its usefulness and should be made illegal because it is no longer needed.

Too dangerous? Sorry, but if you take all available precautions, NO firearm accidents will EVER occur.

Hunting is no longer needed? Hello, without hunting, species would become overpopulated and possibly become extinct.

Your sarcasm meter must be dead and buried. ;)
 

Kalvin00

Lifer
Jan 11, 2003
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Originally posted by: Kaervak
Originally posted by: Kalvin00
Originally posted by: K1052

As far as sporting use goes, they are too dangerous to be used safely and can go off at any moment thereby hurting or killing innocent people. Hunting is a barbaric practice that has outlived its usefulness and should be made illegal because it is no longer needed.

Too dangerous? Sorry, but if you take all available precautions, NO firearm accidents will EVER occur.

Hunting is no longer needed? Hello, without hunting, species would become overpopulated and possibly become extinct.

Your sarcasm meter must be dead and buried. ;)

No, but many people might believe that, so I had to set them straight. :p