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Pulsar

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I don't think shit is really on the curse word list anymore. Not since June 20, 2001 anyways.

Uh, really? Do you have kids? Because pretty much any kid is going to get in trouble if they say "shit" around a grownup.
 

Papagayo

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Kids pick up lot of swear words from school, friends, TV, and Internet.. It is matter of the parents teaching the kids it's not wise to use them.

I don't mind some swearing in the movie.
It's just weird to sit with your child and watch anything referencing to sex.

I'm a grownup and I still feel weird sitting next to my old parents, when watching anything referencing to sex.

I'm watching the movie this Thursday..
I hope it's good as you guys are saying.
 

Fingolfin269

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11 is in middle school right? Yeah, they've already seen and heard everything by that age. Don't be fooled. :)
 

Skel

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I enjoyed the movie well enough. It didn't really click together for me like Avengers did. I'm not exactly sure why but it felt like something was off, and not because it didn't follow the comics. My girlfriend who hasn't read anything felt the same way.

One thing I am a bit confused about is why everyone thinks the Collector was working for Thanos at the end of Thor. I rewatched that scene and don't see the connection. God like power is something he'd want. He makes no mention in the clip at all to Thanos only that he has five more gems to go. One thing I don't care for is how Marvel is going about the Infinity gems. Once I discovered that both the "Tesseract" (I still say Cosmic Cube) and the "Aether" are Infinity gems it felt like Marvel was attempting to bolt on the gems onto what they were already doing. If anything those two objects acted and looked nothing like gems.
 

GlacierFreeze

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Saw it this past Saturday. Liked it more than I thought I would. Was really worried that they wouldn't be able to pull off a space based/scifi type movie, but they did. To me, it had kind of a Star Warsy type feel to it, which I liked. I think they did a pretty good job overall. Definitely wasn't disappointed. I think they gave the right amount of focus on each character, as opposed to having them all together but having 1-2 cast off to the side and ignored for the most part until fight scenes.
 

Fritzo

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Saw it this past Saturday. Liked it more than I thought I would. Was really worried that they wouldn't be able to pull off a space based/scifi type movie, but they did. To me, it had kind of a Star Warsy type feel to it, which I liked. I think they did a pretty good job overall. Definitely wasn't disappointed. I think they gave the right amount of focus on each character, as opposed to having them all together but having 1-2 cast off to the side and ignored for the most part until fight scenes.

I got the Star Wars vibe too. The original Star Wars worked so well because of the interplay between the characters, not because of the mythology. This is the same case.
 

Phoenix86

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I enjoyed the movie well enough. It didn't really click together for me like Avengers did. I'm not exactly sure why but it felt like something was off, and not because it didn't follow the comics. My girlfriend who hasn't read anything felt the same way.

One thing I am a bit confused about is why everyone thinks the Collector was working for Thanos at the end of Thor. I rewatched that scene and don't see the connection. God like power is something he'd want. He makes no mention in the clip at all to Thanos only that he has five more gems to go. One thing I don't care for is how Marvel is going about the Infinity gems. Once I discovered that both the "Tesseract" (I still say Cosmic Cube) and the "Aether" are Infinity gems it felt like Marvel was attempting to bolt on the gems onto what they were already doing. If anything those two objects acted and looked nothing like gems.
If I was being critical, yeah the movie had some holes. Both of Thanos' kids betraying him? Kind of odd. Why could Ronan handle the infinity gem? I thought he was just a warrior who rose to power. Drax seemed overly weak. I think he killed 2 guys, mostly he got beat up.

These things didn't bother me much because the movie didn't take itself seriously.

In general Marvel seems to be powering things down. Infinity gems aren't a slice of a god's power so the gauntlet won't be a collection of all godly powers. Think about how those things plays out in the comics. Godly cosmic beings thrashing solar systems. That won't play well in a movie setting.
 

MaxDepth

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Saw it and really liked it. But then again I was giddy at actually finding a babysitter so that my wife and I could go out for an evening.

Thoughts on it with and without spoilers.
- I liked they writers kept some of the latest incarnation of the comic book with enough open endings to allow for more comic book tie-ins in the next movie. For example,
Cosmo (the dog in the Russian space suit) is a main character on board Knowhere. He's the defacto head of Nowhere in the comic book. Since he's let out of his cage from the wreckage of the Collector, he could be in the next movie as running the place.

- Butt shots! All the female characters have butt shots.(Filmed on screen from an angle where you see only their butts. For the women, Chris with his shirt off. I'm sure some of his Parks & Rec coworkers are seeing their coworker in a new light.

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Howard! Waaagh!

- What no comic clothing version of Gamora?
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- My wife thought it pretty funny that the main baddy was Ned the Pie man from Pushing Daises. In the beginning it was hard to take him seriously. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0925266/

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I really did not get Gamora's altruistic behavior. I was always waiting for her to do something bad or to steal the gem at the last moment and hand it over to Thanos. If she was Thanos' favorite then I did not feel convinced she had stopped being evil.

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I know it must have been a decision on the film maker's part, but I wish the Nova Corp were like the comic books and used the Nova Force instead of space craft. I think it would have been more dramatic and more poignant to see the Nova Corp link themselves as the giant space mesh instead of doing it mechanically. That way with the jewel blast and the suicide bombers crashing into the individuals would be a more climactic impact to see them die instead of spaceships blowing up. I wonder if anyone is going to ask the writers about this decision?
 

smackababy

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I know it must have been a decision on the film maker's part, but I wish the Nova Corp were like the comic books and used the Nova Force instead of space craft. I think it would have been more dramatic and more poignant to see the Nova Corp link themselves as the giant space mesh instead of doing it mechanically. That way with the jewel blast and the suicide bombers crashing into the individuals would be a more climactic impact to see them die instead of spaceships blowing up. I wonder if anyone is going to ask the writers about this decision?
I believe that they were alluding to the fact Nova hadn't been created yet, nor had they discovered the Nova Force. John C Riley's character, I believe was one of the people who recruited Richard Rider (Nova), so that may still come to pass. Perhaps, the infinity gem is what catalyzes the reaction needed for the Nova Force to be discovered.


Also, I feel like I shouldn't be the first person to recognize the hero of our times:
Kevin Bacon
. Easily the funniest part of the movie.
 

MaxDepth

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Also, I feel like I shouldn't be the first person to recognize the hero of our times:
Kevin Bacon
. Easily the funniest part of the movie.

Ronan:
What...are...you...doing?

also

Gamora:
Why do they have sticks up their asses?
 

zinfamous

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If I was being critical, yeah the movie had some holes. Both of Thanos' kids betraying him? Kind of odd. Why could Ronan handle the infinity gem? I thought he was just a warrior who rose to power. Drax seemed overly weak. I think he killed 2 guys, mostly he got beat up.

These things didn't bother me much because the movie didn't take itself seriously.

In general Marvel seems to be powering things down. Infinity gems aren't a slice of a god's power so the gauntlet won't be a collection of all godly powers. Think about how those things plays out in the comics. Godly cosmic beings thrashing solar systems. That won't play well in a movie setting.

From what I recall, neither Gamora nor Nebula had much love for Thanos--I think Gamora respected him to a degree, and they were even cordial at times, as when Thanos was playing good guy for a spell--against Magus, against Goddess. But they would still fight each other, hoping only one would be alive at the end.

Nebula: Thanos killed her *at least* once, then resurrected her as a zombie figure as a gift for mistress Death.
 

smackababy

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From what I recall, neither Gamora nor Nebula had much love for Thanos--I think Gamora respected him to a degree, and they were even cordial at times, as when Thanos was playing good guy for a spell--against Magus, against Goddess. But they would still fight each other, hoping only one would be alive at the end.

Nebula: Thanos killed her *at least* once, then resurrected her as a zombie figure as a gift for mistress Death.

Gamora hoping Thanos was dead seems rather silly, doesn't it? Wasn't Thanos cursed by death with immortality? And, based on just GotG, Gamora was merely kept prisoner by Thanos and the selling of the gem could give her enough of a chance to be free from his grasp (unless, of course, he got the cosmic cube or the gems and became a god).

Besides that, if Thanos and the infinity gauntlet are the objective of Avengers 3, they don't stand a chance. Adam Warlock has to convince him he allows himself to be defeated because he is unworthy and gets the gauntlet himself. Also, Avengers 3 is going to be incredibly dark. IIRC, the first thing Thanos does after obtaining all 6 infinity stones is kill off half the universe to impress Death. Warlock eventually undoes this, but still!
 

JEDI

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so how many gems have been found/identified? which ones?
and who owns them now?
 

Aikouka

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My wife thought it pretty funny that the main baddy was Ned the Pie man from Pushing Daises. In the beginning it was hard to take him seriously. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0925266/

He was also the whimsical brother of the main character in Bryan Fuller's other work, Wonderfalls. Although, I wonder if his other, lighthearted roles are the reason why I wish he came across a bit more heinous/cruel in the movie. I mention one of the scenarios up above in my Three Things I'd Like to See Changed.
 

smackababy

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so how many gems have been found/identified? which ones?
and who owns them now?

3 of the 6 have been identified, none of which have been obtained by Thanos. This purple one in GotG, the Tesseract, and the shard in Thor 2.
 

bearxor

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One thing I am a bit confused about is why everyone thinks the Collector was working for Thanos at the end of Thor. I rewatched that scene and don't see the connection. God like power is something he'd want. He makes no mention in the clip at all to Thanos only that he has five more gems to go. One thing I don't care for is how Marvel is going about the Infinity gems. Once I discovered that both the "Tesseract" (I still say Cosmic Cube) and the "Aether" are Infinity gems it felt like Marvel was attempting to bolt on the gems onto what they were already doing. If anything those two objects acted and looked nothing like gems.

There's nothing in the scene in particular. Its just speculation up until now. We all know that the MCU is leading to Thanos having the infinity stones. The collector getting them for him seemed to make the most sense. And why would Loki send an Infinity Stone away? He has a direct connection to Thanos. It made sense at the end of The Dark World to say that Loki sent the Aether to The Collector so he could give it to Thanos.
 
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zinfamous

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Gamora hoping Thanos was dead seems rather silly, doesn't it? Wasn't Thanos cursed by death with immortality? And, based on just GotG, Gamora was merely kept prisoner by Thanos and the selling of the gem could give her enough of a chance to be free from his grasp (unless, of course, he got the cosmic cube or the gems and became a god).

Besides that, if Thanos and the infinity gauntlet are the objective of Avengers 3, they don't stand a chance. Adam Warlock has to convince him he allows himself to be defeated because he is unworthy and gets the gauntlet himself. Also, Avengers 3 is going to be incredibly dark. IIRC, the first thing Thanos does after obtaining all 6 infinity stones is kill off half the universe to impress Death. Warlock eventually undoes this, but still!

Actually, Nebula is the one that undid the population culling. Gamora was actually one of those victims, and this returned her to existence. (Nebula is the one that grabbed the gauntlet from Thanos' now-uninhabited carcass, when he supplanted Eternity). Warlock took it from her, because she could not fully "grasp reality" while she had the gauntlet, and thus Warlock remained invisible to her. He snatched it then.

:colbert:

As for Avengers 3 being "Dark." I remember when Lucas told us "Star Wars 2 will be very dark, because war."

:|

Then Lucas said: "Star Wars 3 will be very dark, because Jedi murders."

:|

Not sure if that is just a lesson not to trust studios/directors, or just not to trust that asshole Lucas.
 
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smackababy

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There's nothing in the scene in particular. Its just speculation up until now. We all know that the MCU is leading to Thanks having the infinity stones. The collector getting them for him seemed to make the most sense. And why would Loki send an Infinity Stone away? He has a direct connection to Thanos. It made sense at the end of The Dark World to say that Loki sent the Aether to The Collector so he could give it to Thanos.

Pretty much this. It was confirmed Loki was working for Thanos (even if he wasn't directly aware of such involvement) and then confirmed he was actually in Odin's place at the end of Thor 2. He sent the infinity stone to the collector, and it was assumed (based on his "1 down, 5 to go" comment) that he was collecting all 6 for Thanos. Even if, in the comics, Taneleer Tivan was unaware of the infinity stones power (as he had one and Thanos took it from him).
 

zinfamous

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3 of the 6 have been identified, none of which have been obtained by Thanos. This purple one in GotG, the Tesseract, and the shard in Thor 2.

how is the tesseract an infinity gem? was there a gem inside that? I don't recall this being revealed. I always thought it was a cosmic containment unit.
 

KeithTalent

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Is the Infinity Gauntlet comic book story just one series of comics I can read, or is it one of those things which goes over a whole bunch of different series for multiple issues?

KT