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[zinfamous]

Is the Infinity Gauntlet comic book story just one series of comics I can read, or is it one of those things which goes over a whole bunch of different series for multiple issues?

KT

Infinity Gauntlet is pretty much standalone--just 6 comics. The crossovers for those are very minimal.

Though, it would help to read Surfer #...uh, I think like 47-50, which lead up to it? I recall 50 being the nice, silver, stamp cover. Those issues have Surfer discovering Thanos' plot and trying to stop him, then warn everyone. I don't recall the issues where Thanos went about collecting the gems--it might have been in Dr Strange, or something like that.

But Infinity Gauntlet is stand alone, and pretty good as far as comic stories go.

Infinity War and Infinity Crusade go more into the crossover--must read dozens of other comics to follow the storyline (not so much with War, but Infinity Crusade directly follows the story to some other comics, Warlock or some such--so you miss a lot of what is happening there).

fwiw, Infinity Gauntlet and Infinity War were pretty solid, as well as the Surfer and Warlock and the Infinity Watch issues between those two series.

 

[KeithTalent]

Cool, thanks zin. I am going to look into that; I really do enjoy the cosmic stuff, so I imagine I will love all of the Inifity stories.

KT

 

[smackababy]

Infinity Gauntlet is pretty much standalone--just 6 comics. The crossovers for those are very minimal.

Though, it would help to read Surfer #...uh, I think like 47-50, which lead up to it? I recall 50 being the nice, silver, stamp cover. Those issues have Surfer discovering Thanos' plot and trying to stop him, then warn everyone. I don't recall the issues where Thanos went about collecting the gems--it might have been in Dr Strange, or something like that.

But Infinity Gauntlet is stand alone, and pretty good as far as comic stories go.

Infinity War and Infinity Crusade go more into the crossover--must read dozens of other comics to follow the storyline (not so much with War, but Infinity Crusade directly follows the story to some other comics, Warlock or some such--so you miss a lot of what is happening there).

fwiw, Infinity Gauntlet and Infinity War were pretty solid, as well as the Surfer and Warlock and the Infinity Watch issues between those two series.

This, and I'd read The Thanos Quest before starting the 6 Infinity Gauntlet comics. It is only 2 issues. That shows how Thanos obtained the infinity stones.

 

[zinfamous]

I was actually just guessing (because Loki had promised it to The Other in exchange for his army), but it is confirmed on http://marvel-movies.wikia.com/wiki/Tesseract page.

that's weird. it seems that they are getting loose with the definitions of "gem," and mostly use "stone" in the films. ...and now a "Stone" can be any type of object, it seems.

How are these things gonna fit on a gauntlet? :hmm:

well, kinda like the cosmic cubes/containment units. I recall it just started as cosmic cube(s), then later, when the Goddess started collecting them, they became "containment units," because they now existed in all shapes.

 

[zinfamous]

This, and I'd read The Thanos Quest before starting the 6 Infinity Gauntlet comics. It is only 2 issues. That shows how Thanos obtained the infinity stones.

OH right, that's it. the short series that covers that. I now remember planning to pick that up a very long time ago, when I was first reading these, but never did.

So probably Thanos Quest/couple of SS issues are the key lead-ins. Thanos Quest probably more useful. I assume this has him being resurrected by mistress Death?

I recently watched those Surfer cartoons from the mid nineties (they are on youtube, in mostly shitty quality).

....Thanos was turned into a damn fop in that show. so disheartening.

 

[smackababy]

that's weird. it seems that they are getting loose with the definitions of "gem," and mostly use "stone" in the films. ...and now a "Stone" can be any type of object, it seems.

How are these things gonna fit on a gauntlet? :hmm:

well, kinda like the cosmic cubes/containment units. I recall it just started as cosmic cube(s), then later, when the Goddess started collecting them, they became "containment units," because they now existed in all shapes.

At first, I thought the Tesseract would end up being the Cosmic Cube, but with the other movies all hinting at infinity stones, I decided that was foolish. I really wish we could get a Thanos movie. I would love to see him obtaining the gems, before ultimately fighting the Avengers, but that is really unlikely.

OH right, that's it. the short series that covers that. I now remember planning to pick that up a very long time ago, when I was first reading these, but never did.

So probably Thanos Quest/couple of SS issues are the key lead-ins. Thanos Quest probably more useful. I assume this has him being resurrected by mistress Death?

I recently watched those Surfer cartoons from the mid nineties (they are on youtube, in mostly shitty quality).

....Thanos was turned into a damn fop in that show. so disheartening.

Thanos quest is Death resurrecting him, asking him to kill half the universe, and unleashing him for the stones. The best part is once he collects all 6, he goes back to address Death and she states she can't meet him directly anymore, as he didn't become her equal, but rather her superior. He did it all just to be with her, and then can't. =( It is a love story, at heart.

 

[zinfamous]

At first, I thought the Tesseract would end up being the Cosmic Cube, but with the other movies all hinting at infinity stones, I decided that was foolish. I really wish we could get a Thanos movie. I would love to see him obtaining the gems, before ultimately fighting the Avengers, but that is really unlikely.

Thanos quest is Death resurrecting him, asking him to kill half the universe, and unleashing him for the stones. The best part is once he collects all 6, he goes back to address Death and she states she can't meet him directly anymore, as he didn't become her equal, but rather her superior. He did it all just to be with her, and then can't. =( It is a love story, at heart.

I think that is the first issue of Infinity Gauntlet--

Spoiler

He creates the monument in space, the Nebula zombie as a gift, all of these bizarre things as love tokens. Mephisto reminds him that he has yet to fulfill her wish--culling half the population. SO he does this, she still rejects him. I think Mephisto mentions to him, or maybe it is actually death--she stays silent most of the time--that it is his supplanting her in power that has upset her. The Infinity gems was all his idea anyway, and I think she was unhappy about that form the beginning. He asked the well in her palace or whatever how to achieve this task, and the well suggested collecting the gems.

 

[Skel]

There's nothing in the scene in particular. Its just speculation up until now. We all know that the MCU is leading to Thanks having the infinity stones. The collector getting them for him seemed to make the most sense. And why would Loki send an Infinity Stone away? He has a direct connection to Thanos. It made sense at the end of The Dark World to say that Loki sent the Aether to The Collector so he could give it to Thanos.

Pretty much this. It was confirmed Loki was working for Thanos (even if he wasn't directly aware of such involvement) and then confirmed he was actually in Odin's place at the end of Thor 2. He sent the infinity stone to the collector, and it was assumed (based on his "1 down, 5 to go" comment) that he was collecting all 6 for Thanos. Even if, in the comics, Taneleer Tivan was unaware of the infinity stones power (as he had one and Thanos took it from him).

The issue is Loki didn't give it to the Collector in the end scene of Thor 2. It was Sif and Volstagg. They said they were giving it to him because they already that the Tesseract and having two Infinity stones in Asgard was too risky. As the Collector doesn't shy away from collecting power (not to mention there's only six stones that falls right into his want to have them all) there's nothing there to say he's not getting them for himself. To me saying it's for Thanos rates up there with saying the the Staff that Loki has in Avengers is also a Infinity stone (mind) just because it can control people and Thanos game it to him.

 

[Skel]

I think that is the first issue of Infinity Gauntlet--

Spoiler

He creates the monument in space, the Nebula zombie as a gift, all of these bizarre things as love tokens. Mephisto reminds him that he has yet to fulfill her wish--culling half the population. SO he does this, she still rejects him. I think Mephisto mentions to him, or maybe it is actually death--she stays silent most of the time--that it is his supplanting her in power that has upset her. The Infinity gems was all his idea anyway, and I think she was unhappy about that form the beginning. He asked the well in her palace or whatever how to achieve this task, and the well suggested collecting the gems.

Spoiler

It was Mephisto. I don't believe Starlin has ever had Death speak when he's written her. I know other writers have had Thanos and Death have back and forths but Starlin has always used a intermediary like the guy Ronan kills wanting to hear Thanos speak. Thanos Quest was where he gets the idea to put the gems together, and it's classic Starlin.

 

[CZroe]

http://blip.tv/redlettermedia/episode-7004078

 

[Aikouka]

http://blip.tv/redlettermedia/episode-7004078

13:35 for their talk on Guardians of the Galaxy. Oh, and avoid the beginning as there's a mild spoiler for the movie. :|

 

[bearxor]

The issue is Loki didn't give it to the Collector in the end scene of Thor 2. It was Sif and Volstagg. They said they were giving it to him because they already that the Tesseract and having two Infinity stones in Asgard was too risky. As the Collector doesn't shy away from collecting power (not to mention there's only six stones that falls right into his want to have them all) there's nothing there to say he's not getting them for himself. To me saying it's for Thanos rates up there with saying the the Staff that Loki has in Avengers is also a Infinity stone (mind) just because it can control people and Thanos game it to him.

So, serious question before I type paragraphs on this, you think Sif and Volstagg would take the Aether from the Asgard vault and give it to The Collector without involving Odin or on Odin's orders because they, on their own, thought it would be too dangerous to have it close to the Tesseract?

 

[Ichinisan]

RedLetterMedia review is out:
http://redlettermedia.com/half-in-the-bag-boyhood-and-guardians-of-the-galaxy/

 

[SP33Demon]

RedLetterMedia review is out:
http://redlettermedia.com/half-in-the-bag-boyhood-and-guardians-of-the-galaxy/

WTF is that. Are they supposed to be highly acclaimed critics? Awful.

 

[JEDI]

Is the Infinity Gauntlet comic book story just one series of comics I can read, or is it one of those things which goes over a whole bunch of different series for multiple issues?

KT

infinity gauntlet is like DC's Crisis or Kingdom Come.
it was great as a one shot story arc.

then they saw the $ and bastardized it with all sorts of tangent arcs.

infinity gauntlet, infinity war, infinity watch, etc

 

[Skel]

So, serious question before I type paragraphs on this, you think Sif and Volstagg would take the Aether from the Asgard vault and give it to The Collector without involving Odin or on Odin's orders because they, on their own, thought it would be too dangerous to have it close to the Tesseract?

My guess would be it would have been on Odin's orders. Those two wouldn't make such a decision without Odin at least weighing in... of course having said that, Odin always did have (at least in both comics and legend) an overinflated ego and may have thought all the gems would be better off in his hands.

 

[Aikouka]

My guess would be it would have been on Odin's orders. Those two wouldn't make such a decision without Odin at least weighing in... of course having said that, Odin always did have (at least in both comics and legend) an overinflated ego and may have thought all the gems would be better off in his hands.

And Loki took Odin's place.

 

[smackababy]

Well, perhaps the collector wasn't working for Thanos, but he still knows about him (he can see the future) and learns about his plan with the infinity gauntlet.

 

[bearxor]

My guess would be it would have been on Odin's orders. Those two wouldn't make such a decision without Odin at least weighing in... of course having said that, Odin always did have (at least in both comics and legend) an overinflated ego and may have thought all the gems would be better off in his hands.

And so...

And Loki took Odin's place.

Exactly. The assumption, after the end of The Dark World, is that Loki has imprisoned Odin somewhere and is now masquerading as him.

The catch could always be that he only did it to speak to Thor but I'd imagine that with Thor gone, nothing would be stopping Loki from ruling Asgard as Odin. So, we make the guess that it was actually Loki, masquerading as Odin to Sif and Volstagg, ordered the Aether removed from Asgard and delivered to Taneleer.

Until more information is brought up in future movies, of course. We've got quite a few movies to get through before Avengers 3.

 

[smackababy]

And so...



Exactly. The assumption, after the end of The Dark World, is that Loki has imprisoned Odin somewhere and is now masquerading as him.

The catch could always be that he only did it to speak to Thor but I'd imagine that with Thor gone, nothing would be stopping Loki from ruling Asgard as Odin. So, we make the guess that it was actually Loki, masquerading as Odin to Sif and Volstagg, ordered the Aether removed from Asgard and delivered to Taneleer.

Until more information is brought up in future movies, of course. We've got quite a few movies to get through before Avengers 3.

With how the universe is now, the collector has the correct amount of stones (one). I am going to guess if there isn't a Thanos movie to explain how he gets the stones, he will be collecting them in Avengers 3. The sad part is that once he gets them, he basically can't be beaten and gives up on his own, as he no longer cares (after killing half the universe, mind you).

 

[CZroe]

WTF is that. Are they supposed to be highly acclaimed critics? Awful.

They made the epic Star Wars prequel reviews that were almost as long as the movies they were reviewing and ripped Lucas a new one while they were at it. This episode did not continue their usual storyline of abusive con-artist VCR repair guys or have their usual serial-killer handicapped victim, Mr. Plinkett, and it clearly suffered as a result.

It seems that there are simply too many new summer movies to advance the plot with every review/episode at this point in time.

 

[Skel]

And Loki took Odin's place.

And so...



Exactly. The assumption, after the end of The Dark World, is that Loki has imprisoned Odin somewhere and is now masquerading as him.

The catch could always be that he only did it to speak to Thor but I'd imagine that with Thor gone, nothing would be stopping Loki from ruling Asgard as Odin. So, we make the guess that it was actually Loki, masquerading as Odin to Sif and Volstagg, ordered the Aether removed from Asgard and delivered to Taneleer.

Until more information is brought up in future movies, of course. We've got quite a few movies to get through before Avengers 3.

Fair enough point. I'm not sure I'd agree with it but now I can see how the jump was made. They may come out and say it down the road, but I have a hard time with the idea that only Thanos has a clue what they are and is the only one after them. In Guardians the Collector knew what they were so him not wanting them doesn't work for me. In Thanos Quest (yep.. totally different between the movie and the books) the Collector didn't know what they were but he knew enough to want them.

 

[smackababy]

Fair enough point. I'm not sure I'd agree with it but now I can see how the jump was made. They may come out and say it down the road, but I have a hard time with the idea that only Thanos has a clue what they are and is the only one after them. In Guardians the Collector knew what they were so him not wanting them doesn't work for me. In Thanos Quest (yep.. totally different between the movie and the books) the Collector didn't know what they were but he knew enough to want them.

In Thanos quest, most knew they were rare, it just took the Well of Infinity to give Thanos their true meaning. The elders that understood their gems had power didn't really comprehend it and that allowed Thanos to outsmart all of them. The Runner didn't understand his didn't simply make him faster, but allowed him to manipulate space. Champion thought his was just a good luck charm and not the source of his limitless power. Grand Master possibly understood his gave him knowledge, but he attempted to outsmart Thanos on his own (and failed). The Collector merely knew his was of great worth, but was unable to unlock it's true power (I believe his was reality). In-betweener knew his had power, as Warlock had used it to steal souls, but again, underestimated the gem (and Thanos, Order, and Chaos).

 

[Skel]

In Thanos quest, most knew they were rare, it just took the Well of Infinity to give Thanos their true meaning. The elders that understood their gems had power didn't really comprehend it and that allowed Thanos to outsmart all of them. The Runner didn't understand his didn't simply make him faster, but allowed him to manipulate space. Champion thought his was just a good luck charm and not the source of his limitless power. Grand Master possibly understood his gave him knowledge, but he attempted to outsmart Thanos on his own (and failed). The Collector merely knew his was of great worth, but was unable to unlock it's true power (I believe his was reality). In-betweener knew his had power, as Warlock had used it to steal souls, but again, underestimated the gem (and Thanos, Order, and Chaos).

In their defense, Thanos built a weapon out of them back in the 70s Avengers annual that went into another Marvel book, Marvel premier? Marvel Spotlight? It was only when Starlin wanted to do a cross over did he up their power into God like status. It's like Marvel: The End where he created God and had Thanos become him to fix death in the universe.. that lasted a few years before the return flights from death once again began in MCU.

 

[smackababy]

In their defense, Thanos built a weapon out of them back in the 70s Avengers annual that went into another Marvel book, Marvel premier? Marvel Spotlight? It was only when Starlin wanted to do a cross over did he up their power into God like status. It's like Marvel: The End where he created God and had Thanos become him to fix death in the universe.. that lasted a few years before the return flights from death once again began in MCU.

True. That is probably where it is going to be. Thanos won't understand the truth about the infinity gems and get defeated. Hopefully, the end sequence has him resurrected by Death and starring blankly into the infinity well.