grrr i'm boycotting arbys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lars]

In Germany you have to pay for each little package of ketchup at Mc Donald's & CO.

 

[gar598]

Normally it would be too expensive for me since it would be around $2.89 per a sandwich ($8.77 total)

 

[aphex]

Dont ever come over here to holland then, ALL the fast food restaurants charge $.25 PER packet.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: Cyberian

Originally posted by: vi_edit
You'd be amazed at how fast that add's up. I'm actually in training, for an Arby's, doing inventory management at the moment.

When your profit on a sandwich is $.15, and you are giving away $.02 in packets, you are loosing 7.5% in profit.

Take that times 300 sandwiches a day, 360 days a year, and it adds up.

Is that the actual profit on a sandwich?
How many would a store have to sell to pay for rent, heat, electric, salaries, etc.?

Profit accounts for all that already.

Viper GTS

 

[ElFenix]

went there, got the 5 roast beef for 6, and a large fry, and i wait a while at the thing and then when she hands me the bag shes like
"you only want 1 fry?"
"yeah"
then she rolled her eyes at me

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: aphexII
Dont ever come over here to holland then, ALL the fast food restaurants charge $.25 PER packet.

and people still drown their fries in mayo

 

[Chadder007]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Cyberian

Originally posted by: vi_edit
You'd be amazed at how fast that add's up. I'm actually in training, for an Arby's, doing inventory management at the moment.

When your profit on a sandwich is $.15, and you are giving away $.02 in packets, you are loosing 7.5% in profit.

Take that times 300 sandwiches a day, 360 days a year, and it adds up.

Is that the actual profit on a sandwich?
How many would a store have to sell to pay for rent, heat, electric, salaries, etc.?

Profit accounts for all that already.

Viper GTS

Yep, the 15 cents is what goes into the owners pockets.

 

[vi edit]

You are looking at roughly $1.00 in food costs alone for the sandwich - roast beef, bun, cheese, sauce on the sandwich, then extra packet of sauce.

Now, take into consideration you have to also pay for the $1,000,000 in property fees, the labor for the cashier that took your money, the cook that put the sandwich together, the manager that runs the store, then pay electric fees, the cost of the $35,000 point of sale system, the 5% franchise fee, the $5,000 a month for franchise renewal, ect. ect. ect. and you are making very, very little on the $1.66 sandwich.

And if that isn't enough, you've got above store management. An accountant to balance the bills. A consultant to handle computer problems. A human resource person to do human resource stuff. Ect. ect.

 

[Miramonti]

In europe (this was germany) mcdonalds had a whole bin of individual Nutello spread (choco/hazelnut) on the counter! Dang I grabbed a handful of those suckers.

 

[Cyberian]

Originally posted by: Chadder007

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Cyberian

Originally posted by: vi_edit
You'd be amazed at how fast that add's up. I'm actually in training, for an Arby's, doing inventory management at the moment.

When your profit on a sandwich is $.15, and you are giving away $.02 in packets, you are loosing 7.5% in profit.

Take that times 300 sandwiches a day, 360 days a year, and it adds up.

Is that the actual profit on a sandwich?
How many would a store have to sell to pay for rent, heat, electric, salaries, etc.?

Profit accounts for all that already.

Viper GTS

Yep, the 15 cents is what goes into the owners pockets.

OK, apparantly there are differing interpretations of 'profit' in this example.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
You'd be amazed at how fast that add's up. I'm actually in training, for an Arby's, doing inventory management at the moment.

When your profit on a sandwich is $.15, and you are giving away $.02 in packets, you are loosing 7.5% in profit.

Take that times 300 sandwiches a day, 360 days a year, and it adds up.

yea but would you rather have $.13 or $.00?

 

[gar598]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
You are looking at roughly $1.00 in food costs alone for the sandwich - roast beef, bun, cheese, sauce on the sandwich, then extra packet of sauce.

Now, take into consideration you have to also pay for the $1,000,000 in property fees, the labor for the cashier that took your money, the cook that put the sandwich together, the manager that runs the store, then pay electric fees, the cost of the $35,000 point of sale system, the 5% franchise fee, the $5,000 a month for franchise renewal, ect. ect. ect. and you are making very, very little on the $1.66 sandwich.

And if that isn't enough, you've got above store management. An accountant to balance the bills. A consultant to handle computer problems. A human resource person to do human resource stuff. Ect. ect.

There is no way in hell they are spending a dollar on a sandwich. Also, if they are spending .15 cents on a condiment packet they are clearly getting ripped off. Considering that they buy everything in bulk I would guess that they're spending under a cent per a packet and well under fifty cents per a sandwich. If you have any evidence to dispute otherwise please share.

 

[vi edit]

We buy roast beef at $57 for 40 pounds. Post cooking shrinkage and scrap takes away 7% of that 40 pounds, so you are down to 37.2 pounds. Take that $57 and devide it by 37.2 and you are looking at about $1.50 per pound.

A beef 'n cheddar has 8oz of beef so you have a beef cost of $.75.
The bun is around $.12 for the onion roll.
Figure another $.02 or $.03 for the cheddar sauce, the arbys sauce that they already put on there, and the wrapper.
Now put in another $.02 for extra packet.

That's $.95 in food costs alone. Now factor in labor, operating expenses, property, and above store expenses and you are really starting to add things up.

That sandwhich cost you $1.66, it may have cost us $1.50 to put it together. We're only making $.15 or cents on the sandwich.

Fast food industry is all about quantity. The more you sell, the more you make per sandwich, but, on the other hand, the more freebee's you give out, the harder it is to make money.

Most people really have no concept of the costs associated with running a quick serve business. It's just not money spent on food costs, there are literally hundreds of other variables that go into the final price of that sandwich.

It's not uncommon for a restuarant to have 200 or 300 transactions a day. If every one of those transactions takes an extra $.02 packet of sauce, that's $6 a day, $186 a month, $2232 a year. We've got 18 stores, if you take that $2232 a year x 18, that's $40,176 dollars a year my company is loosing just by giving away an extra packet of sauce.

I don't care what you think, or who you are, $40,000 a year is not a small amount of money.

 

[Occifer]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
We buy roast beef at $57 for 40 pounds. Post cooking shrinkage and scrap takes away 7% of that 40 pounds, so you are down to 37.2 pounds. Take that $57 and devide it by 37.2 and you are looking at about $1.50 per pound.

A beef 'n cheddar has 8oz of beef so you have a beef cost of $.75.
The bun is around $.12 for the onion roll.
Figure another $.02 or $.03 for the cheddar sauce, the arbys sauce that they already put on there, and the wrapper.
Now put in another $.02 for extra packet.

That's $.95 in food costs alone. Now factor in labor, operating expenses, property, and above store expenses and you are really starting to add things up.

That sandwhich cost you $1.66, it may have cost us $1.50 to put it together. We're only making $.15 or cents on the sandwich.

Fast food industry is all about quantity. The more you sell, the more you make per sandwich, but, on the other hand, the more freebee's you give out, the harder it is to make money.

Most people really have no concept of the costs associated with running a quick serve business. It's just not money spent on food costs, there are literally hundreds of other variables that go into the final price of that sandwich.

It's not uncommon for a restuarant to have 200 or 300 transactions a day. If every one of those transactions takes an extra $.02 packet of sauce, that's $6 a day, $186 a month, $2232 a year. We've got 18 stores, if you take that $2232 a year x 18, that's $40,176 dollars a year my company is loosing just by giving away an extra packet of sauce.

I don't care what you think, or who you are, $40,000 a year is not a small amount of money.

Why not just get rid of the sauce entirely, and save your company $40,000 a year. The customers wouldnt be able to complain about it if you didn't have it.

 

[NewSc2]

Originally posted by: HighTechRedneck

Originally posted by: vi_edit
We buy roast beef at $57 for 40 pounds. Post cooking shrinkage and scrap takes away 7% of that 40 pounds, so you are down to 37.2 pounds. Take that $57 and devide it by 37.2 and you are looking at about $1.50 per pound.

A beef 'n cheddar has 8oz of beef so you have a beef cost of $.75.
The bun is around $.12 for the onion roll.
Figure another $.02 or $.03 for the cheddar sauce, the arbys sauce that they already put on there, and the wrapper.
Now put in another $.02 for extra packet.

That's $.95 in food costs alone. Now factor in labor, operating expenses, property, and above store expenses and you are really starting to add things up.

That sandwhich cost you $1.66, it may have cost us $1.50 to put it together. We're only making $.15 or cents on the sandwich.

Fast food industry is all about quantity. The more you sell, the more you make per sandwich, but, on the other hand, the more freebee's you give out, the harder it is to make money.

Most people really have no concept of the costs associated with running a quick serve business. It's just not money spent on food costs, there are literally hundreds of other variables that go into the final price of that sandwich.

It's not uncommon for a restuarant to have 200 or 300 transactions a day. If every one of those transactions takes an extra $.02 packet of sauce, that's $6 a day, $186 a month, $2232 a year. We've got 18 stores, if you take that $2232 a year x 18, that's $40,176 dollars a year my company is loosing just by giving away an extra packet of sauce.

I don't care what you think, or who you are, $40,000 a year is not a small amount of money.

Why not just get rid of the sauce entirely, and save your company $40,000 a year. The customers wouldnt be able to complain about it if you didn't have it.

because nobody would go to arby's if they couldn't drench it in arby's sauce and ketchup *yum*

 

[vi edit]

Why not just get rid of the sauce entirely, and save your company $40,000 a year. The customers wouldnt be able to complain about it if you didn't have it.

Well, yes, you could do that, but it's not really the point. The point is that companies enforce these rules for a reason. People, like the original poster think that a penny, or two pennies isn't anything big or important. Well, it is. Once or twice it is insignificant, but if everyone starts doing it, then IT DOES add up.

Companies spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to monitor where things like these are costing them money. Things like adding an extra ounce or two of roast beef, giving a slice of swiss cheese for free, adding bacon for free, handing out more than one tub of dipping sauce, scheduling too many employees at a given time, having too much of different things on hand and having to waste it, ect.

On an individual basis, they are small, but when you start putting in multipliers of 5, 10, 50, 100, 500, 1000, 10000, ect then it's a snowball effect.

 

[FrustratedUser]

Originally posted by: MrPhelps
Lets all get together and order our meals without ice in the pop. That will kill the pop profit..

I am already doing that. LOL! I hate when they put in 75% ice and charges me for 100% pop.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser

Originally posted by: MrPhelps
Lets all get together and order our meals without ice in the pop. That will kill the pop profit..

I am already doing that. LOL! I hate when they put in 75% ice and charges me for 100% pop.

No, if you really want to kill profit, you order water. The stores actually loose money on that deal.

 

[Shaftatplanetquake]

vi_edit if you spell losing as loosing one more time I am going to go insane.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: Shaftatplanetquake
vi_edit if you spell losing as loosing one more time I am going to go insane.

Looser!

I've spent close to 60 hours in the last 4 days going over inventory management. I've got another 30 hours to go yet till Friday. My mind is the consistency of mush.

 

[gar598]

I have a better idea vi - How about I just goto another restaurant were I don't have to be dictated how much sauce I can be alloted. Let's see how much profit they make off me then........

The customer is always right, bottom line (within reason).


You maybe correct in your whole pricing diagram but arby's will never build a loyal customer base with these types of atitudes.

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

mmm....horsey sauce! its so good...but what the hell is in it?

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
You'd be amazed at how fast that add's up. I'm actually in training, for an Arby's, doing inventory management at the moment.

When your profit on a sandwich is $.15, and you are giving away $.02 in packets, you are loosing 7.5% in profit.

Take that times 300 sandwiches a day, 360 days a year, and it adds up.

bah, your evil. The last time I went there I was sick for 2 days and could not even get out of bed to get to the doctor.

 

[vi edit]

You maybe correct in your whole pricing diagram but arby's will never build a loyal customer base with these types of atitudes.

Arby's is a franchised business. This means that every store is privately owned an operated. An arby's in Las Vegas has different owners and operators than one in Seattle. Each owner/franchisee has their own tolerances/policies. The group that I work for don't enforce this policy, but they may once we start making some forecasts on exactly what this is costing us.

If you aren't happy with getting one packet, go inside and use the pump station and get as much as you want.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: yamahaXS
mmm....horsey sauce! its so good...but what the hell is in it?

Future Horsey Sauce Ingredient