Greta is chosen as Time's Person of the Year

[pmv]

If it is 100% man made then I guess the climate never changed in the entire 5 billion or so years of its existence, right?

A non-sequitor. Your 'guess' is wrong as your implied conclusion doesn't follow from your premise.

The climate has changed through natural processes that we know about, and which we know are not responsibile for the current change, and changed much less rapidly than it is now doing.

 

[mikeymikec]

What exactly are you claiming Im denying? The only difference between what I believe and what most of the left on this board believe is what percentage humankind is responsible for climate change. The rest we agree on. And you, like the others, have painted me into some fairyland evil conservative corner, which is just that. Fairyland.

So what exactly are you doing? Quibbling over exactly this or exactly that? Climate change requires action, not quibbling. We already have a resident quibbler so that post is already filled.

Look at the topic title for christ's sake. 95% of this thread is because of your alleged "not denialism but quibbling" in an effort to de-rail the thread.

As for your previous question to me: You're a Trump supporter. You know it, everyone here knows it. Your bout of amnesia about him saying that climate change is a hoax is bizarre to say the least if you're trying to portray yourself as anything but a climate change denier.

 

[pcgeek11]

Should have been the whistleblower.

Adam Schiff?

 

[pmv]

No offense to Greta, and not to endorse climate change denial in any way, but, IMHO, the Time "Person of the Year" thing has always been a bit silly. It seems like it's mainly a publicity thing for Time magazine. Almost as silly as the Nobel Peace Prize.

 

[brycejones]

Adam Schiff?

0/10 posting patent falsehoods is just pathetic

 

[bshole]

Greta Thunberg Is TIME’s 2019 Person of the Year

The climate activist has succeeded in turning vague anxieties about the planet into a worldwide movement calling for global change

time.com

I've been reading through the comments on the local newspaper's article and boy are those GOPers and climate deniers angry and vitriol towards her.

The readers of Time magazine agree with you and by a WIDE margin (10 to 1 vs Greta). The elites appear to have turned their back on Hong Kong. In fact, the article below takes a neutral to hostile stance against the Hong Kong protesters.

Hong Kong is one of the freest countries in the world (more free than America by some indices). Its willingness to fight to retain it's freedom against a rising mega power is the story of our generation. It is a forgone conclusion that they must ultimately lose. The least they deserve is some recognition for their struggle.

But the demonstrations have grown more belligerent in recent months, as police have used increasingly aggressive tactics to confront a more radical core of protestors willing to use violence to achieve their goals.

Here’s Who Won TIME’s 2019 Person of the Year Reader Poll

Activists claimed most of the top five spots in this year's survey

time.com

 

[fskimospy]

Jesus Christ even a Costco sized foil roll couldn't make a big enough hat for this.

It’s kind of funny how multiple times in this thread you’ve declared people flat earthers or tinfoil hat conspiracists for saying things that are undeniably true.

 

[fskimospy]

If it is 100% man made then I guess the climate never changed in the entire 5 billion or so years of its existence, right?

You should probably read the thread before saying dumb things like this.

 

[ultimatebob]

Actually, I'd say Greta did far more than the youtube person. Individuals planting trees is not doing anything to solve climate change. The only chance we have of effectively combating climate change is to convince the governments of the world to make a concerted effort to set regulations controlling emissions, advancing the replacement of fossil fuel consumption with alternatives, and possibly investing in carbon capture technologies. All this other stuff in the end is just feel good propaganda that distracts from the need to actually do something that actually stands a chance of succeeding.

Do you really think that Greta's speeches helped, though? Sure, they energized the climate change activists, but they pissed off big business and the climate change deniers. Most centrists ignored her as well.

On a big issue like this that requires assistance from everyone to resolve, all she did is make the liberal/conservative divide on this issue just a little bit bigger and a little bit harder to overcome later on.

 

[Muse]

No offense to Greta, and not to endorse climate change denial in any way, but, IMHO, the Time "Person of the Year" thing has always been a bit silly. It seems like it's mainly a publicity thing for Time magazine. Almost as silly as the Nobel Peace Prize.

Well, the Nobel Peace Prize comes with a small fortune in cash. I wouldn't call that silly, myself.

 

[Brainonska511]

I have to say, BdB is so out of touch with his choice quote in his tweet:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1204888004940185602

Newsflash BdB - you're part of the problem - people that talk big, but do jack shit (or even stand in the way of progress).

Hong Kong is one of the freest countries in the world (more free than America by some indices).

HK's extreme income inequality actually results in less freedom. Have fun living in a tiny shared apartment if you're not well off.

 

[Viper1j]

Trump couldn't hold it in for long..

https://twitter.com/x/status/1205100602025545730

 

[Muse]

Per the theme here, I was heartened to hear that the Harvard vs Yale (IIRC) football game a few weeks ago was delayed quite some time when students refused to vacate the field in their climate crisis demonstration. We're talking Harvard kids here! We need to make a huge ruckus. This IS the issue of our times. It pales the others.

 

[brycejones]

HK's extreme income inequality actually results in less freedom. Have fun living in a tiny shared closet if you're not well off.

FTFY

 

[sdifox]

Trump couldn't hold it in for long..

https://twitter.com/x/status/1205100602025545730

Greta should mail him a signed copy

 

[Bitek]

Beware unintended consequences. Cleaning Up Air Pollution May Strengthen Global Warming. New research is helping quantify just how big that effect might be

"Because we polluted the air so much, the only way to keep any one pollutant from killing the planet is to keep polluting so we don't upset the perfect balance of pollutants we've created that's made us indestructible."

We have Three Stooges syndrome, so we should do nothing..

 

[Bitek]

Trump couldn't hold it in for long..

https://twitter.com/x/status/1205100602025545730

He is Human Scum.

Can we add in some fake outrage from Melania about cyberbullying of children?

Be best! ✌

 

[K1052]

I have to say, BdB is so out of touch with his choice quote in his tweet:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1204888004940185602

Newsflash BdB - you're part of the problem - people that talk big, but do jack shit (or even stand in the way of progress).

If BdB implemented a major overhaul of the city's transportation and curb management he could have an appreciable impact on emissions. He's not that guy unfortunately.

 

[K1052]

Trump couldn't hold it in for long..

https://twitter.com/x/status/1205100602025545730

Trump is so over the fake news media that his insatiable appetite for their approval requires his ego ding a 16 year old.

 

[pcgeek11]

0/10 posting patent falsehoods is just pathetic

Look there is a question mark at the end of my Question...

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Per the theme here, I was heartened to hear that the Harvard vs Yale (IIRC) football game a few weeks ago was delayed quite some time when students refused to vacate the field in their climate crisis demonstration. We're talking Harvard kids here! We need to make a huge ruckus. This IS the issue of our times. It pales the others.

Because the football players and announcers can do so much.....

The targetting that you folks choose is baffling to the point of hilarious on my end - and a bunch of pissed off football fans on the other end.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Newsflash BdB - you're part of the problem - people that talk big, but do jack shit (or even stand in the way of progress).

Uhhh... you talking about BdB there or Greta?

 

[Brainonska511]

Uhhh... you talking about BdB there or Greta?

Since it was unclear to you, I was referring to BdB. He actually has authority to implement change within the area he governs. He has totally failed on that front.

Despite what you might have been implying, activists serve an important purpose of raising awareness and building political support. But at the end of the day, political leaders actually need to enact the change.

 

[fskimospy]

Trump is so over the fake news media that his insatiable appetite for their approval requires his ego ding a 16 year old.

I’m old enough to remember when even speaking Barron Trump’s name was unacceptable. Surely republicans will be up in arms about this.

 

[brycejones]

Look there is a question mark at the end of my Question...

Oh come on, you should at least own the dishonesty. That's just the cowardly way out.