Grandmother Attacked Outside Planned Parenthood!

[BoberFett]

I wonder how many people here who believe granny got what she deserve also agree with Spidey's "$600 to stomp a liberal - so worth it" comment?

My guess would be they think Spidey is a horrible person, but fully support curb stomping grandma.

Political hacks will be political hacks.

 

[jpeyton]

The grandmother prayed.

I see random people praying in public all the time. They're usually speaking some nonsense about hellfire and salvation while holding some signs with Bible verses written on them.

I'm not sure if I would shed a tear for them either. Even if they were someone's grandparent.

The bottom line is that abortion clinics aren't the safest place to be at. That's true for fetuses, doctors, and protestors.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

I wonder how many people here who believe granny got what she deserve also agree with Spidey's "$600 to stomp a liberal - so worth it" comment?

I think Granny got what she deserved but that whoever shoved her should be prosecuted.

The difference is that, objectively, Granny is advocating religious dictatorship. In contrast, the liberals advocate much better economic policies compared to the conservative alternative (who believe that only the top 5% should enjoy the wealth workers produce and that the purpose of government is to serve the interests of the top 5%).

Thus, as you can see, there isn't any logical inconsistency.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

No, but it also doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out assault is far worse than someone exercising their 1st amendment right to pray or take photos in public.

I never meant to suggest that I don't think the assailant should not be prosecuted. In contrast, I never suggested that Grandma should be prosecuted. Obviously, if I think that the law should come down on the assailant, I think that what the assailant did is worse than what Grandma did. But that doesn't mean that I don't think Grandma deserved a shove.

 

[mikeymikec]

The bottom line is that abortion clinics aren't the safest place to be at. That's true for fetuses, doctors, and protestors.

One would hope that out of those three, the foetus is in the greatest danger

 

[WhipperSnapper]

They are both religions. They both have rules for ethical conduct. That is where their similarity ends.

Unfortunately, it doesn't end there. Both groups want to force their religious beliefs onto other people. That's the similarity.

Democrats in Congress have rules for ethical conduct and all democrats are a member of a religion (according to the SCOTUS, even atheism is a religion for legal purposes), therefor it is legitimate to call the democrats in congress the DNC Taliban, right?

It would be legitimate to call them politicians working in government. Are they religiously motivated and trying to enforce religious dictates to anything close to the extent that the Taliban and Christians would?

That is what I am saying, they are so different that his statement fails miserably. He only uses it because it makes him feel good and he can lie about Christianity at the same time (though that might be what makes him feel good, not sure).

You're a good example of how not everyone is bright enough to understand certain types of abstract concepts.

 

[BoberFett]

I think Granny got what she deserved but that whoever shoved her should be prosecuted.

The difference is that, objectively, Granny is advocating religious dictatorship. In contrast, the liberals advocate much better economic policies compared to the conservative alternative (who believe that only the top 5% should enjoy the wealth workers produce and that the purpose of government is to serve the interests of the top 5%).

Thus, as you can see, there isn't any logical inconsistency.

The intellectual dishonesty of "liberals" never ceases to amaze me.

If granny got what she deserves because she was advocating religious dictatorship, then every "liberal" deserves to get their ass kicked for advocating the divine right of Obama to the throne.

Jesus Titty Fucking Christ, people like you are absolutely no different than the most rabidly insane born again.

 

[Juddog]

An old lady in the hood harassing people - honestly what did she expect? I avoid the hood whenever possible because walking through it is a surefire way to get mugged. This isn't a "librul" vs "conservatard" issue, this is an old lady being stupid in the wrong section of town. The attacker deserves to be charged, and the old lady has hopefully learned a lesson that god isn't always on her side.

 

[Incorruptible]

An old lady in the hood harassing people - honestly what did she expect? I avoid the hood whenever possible because walking through it is a surefire way to get mugged. This isn't a "librul" vs "conservatard" issue, this is an old lady being stupid in the wrong section of town. The attacker deserves to be charged, and the old lady has hopefully learned a lesson that god isn't always on her side.

The attacker should be charged and locked up in jail. What the grandmother did was stupid and not smart but its not illegal and she was using her free speech.

Shame on you to all the idiots who think the innocent grandmother deserved it.

 

[TechBoyJK]

I don't care for the attacker or the grandmother. They both got theirs in the end.

Not impressed.

You got a PM

Fern
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TechBoyJK
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[SheHateMe]

An old lady in the hood harassing people - honestly what did she expect? I avoid the hood whenever possible because walking through it is a surefire way to get mugged. This isn't a "librul" vs "conservatard" issue, this is an old lady being stupid in the wrong section of town. The attacker deserves to be charged, and the old lady has hopefully learned a lesson that god isn't always on her side.

And how do you know they were in the "hood"?

 

[WhipperSnapper]

If granny got what she deserves because she was advocating religious dictatorship, then every "liberal" deserves to get their ass kicked for advocating the divine right of Obama to the throne.

What exactly is it that Obama is doing that is worse than what Romney or any of the Republican candidates would be doing? Heck, Obama at least believes in having socialized medicine (though he knows there's no way he could get it through the Congress).

To hear some Republicans tell it, Obama is the anti-Christ and deserves blame for all of the damage the Bush Administration did to our nation's economy.

 

[Fern]

We don't even see what this "supposedly" old lady looks like. For all we know she could be some 40 year old grandmother. But the word grandmother is used to bring about an image of some frail 80 year old woman. I am sorry but I am not buying this.

Reading the article is helpful. It clearly states the woman was 63 yrs old.

I find it interesting that the youtube video claims "botched abortions". Yet provides no real proof. Again, this is an attempt to make it appear like there is some kind of heinous event happening inside the place.
-snip-

True, but I'm having trouble imagining any other scenario. While it's possible a medical condition unrelated to abortions arose (e.g., a worker suffered a heart attack) the apparent number and frequency of ambulances would seem to strongly indicate abortion related medical problems.

Fern

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Reading the article is helpful. It clearly states the woman was 63 yrs old.



True, but I'm having trouble imagining any other scenario. While it's possible a medical condition unrelated to abortions arose (e.g., a worker suffered a heart attack) the apparent number and frequency of ambulances would seem to strongly indicate abortion related medical problems.

Fern

I have no problem envisioning any number of complications due to pregnancy that people with no insurance, no access to transportation depending on proximity to hospital etc... might go to a PP location for only to have it be determined that immediate medical care might be in order.

It's an assertion based upon zero fact and a whole lot of assumption. Certainly plays to the emotional though doesn't it?

 

[Incorruptible]

Reading the article is helpful. It clearly states the woman was 63 yrs old.



True, but I'm having trouble imagining any other scenario. While it's possible a medical condition unrelated to abortions arose (e.g., a worker suffered a heart attack) the apparent number and frequency of ambulances would seem to strongly indicate abortion related medical problems.

Fern

Excellent points. The article states that she is 63 years old and it shows her in the video after she is assaulted.

We dont know for sure if its a botched abortion but its not likely that they had this many visits for something else.

 

[Fern]

I have no problem envisioning any number of complications due to pregnancy that people with no insurance, no access to transportation depending on proximity to hospital etc... might go to a PP location for only to have it be determined that immediate medical care might be in order.

It's an assertion based upon zero fact and a whole lot of assumption. Certainly plays to the emotional though doesn't it?

You seem to be of the opinion that PP operates as a medical clinic. That's not my understanding. To claim that someone would go to an abortion clinic (yes, I know they do gynecology exams etc.) for a complication due to pregnancy strikes me as fanciful.

And I would strongly suggest that people, most particularly those without health insurance, be discouraged from using an ambulance service as a taxi cab.

Fern

 

[MomentsofSanity]

You seem to be of the opinion that PP operates as a medical clinic. That's not my understanding. To claim that someone would go to an abortion clinic (yes, I know they do gynecology exams etc.) for a complication due to pregnancy strikes me as fanciful.

And I would strongly suggest that people, most particularly those without health insurance, be discouraged from using an ambulance service as a taxi cab.

Fern

I'm not saying they do. I'm saying I can certainly see people thinking they do going there only needing to be referred to a proper medical facility.

 

[skyking]

Fern, they do offer a wide range of services, depending on location.
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/general-health-care-32720.htm
Every clinic I have been to is quite eager to ship off anybody that has a condition beyond their scope of treatment.

 

[Nebor]

What kind of maniac would fuck with someone that kills babies for a living? They're capable of anything. The old lady should have seen it coming.

 

[umbrella39]

Maybe we can kick a few blacks. Why not? Some blacks rob people. Some gays too, there's child molesters in that group. I mean they are just as guilty of harm as the grandmother. Let's show everyone what people like you are made of.

 

[umbrella39]

New news... the grandmother turns out to be Muslim. The OP has since changed is stance on the assault. It is now justified and appreciated...

 

[Incorruptible]

New news... the grandmother turns out to be Muslim. The OP has since changed is stance on the assault. It is now justified and appreciated...

I dont care what religion she is I still defend her rights

You on the other hand, Not at all

 

[lotus503]

Reading the article is helpful. It clearly states the woman was 63 yrs old.



True, but I'm having trouble imagining any other scenario. While it's possible a medical condition unrelated to abortions arose (e.g., a worker suffered a heart attack) the apparent number and frequency of ambulances would seem to strongly indicate abortion related medical problems.

Fern

actually not at all,

abortions are surgeries one can have complications from the surgery that require observation the facility is ill equipped to provide.

While you could call it abortion related medical condition it doesn't mean it was a "botched" abortion. the abortion could be successful but the patient may have vitals or other areas of concern related to the surgery.

 

[umbrella39]

After sifting through the thread I didn't see links to the "botched abortions" that the inciter claimed. Are they invisilinks? Simple case of battery. Filming patients coming and going from medical facilities has to toe the line of privacy laws (not HIPAA) but I'm sure most would gladly take the fine and destroy that bitches camera/phone if their loved one was being filmed against their will in a time of crisis. Good shoot.

 

[TechBoyJK]

After sifting through the thread I didn't see links to the "botched abortions" that the inciter claimed. Are they invisilinks? Simple case of battery. Filming patients coming and going from medical facilities has to toe the line of privacy laws (not HIPAA) but I'm sure most would gladly take the fine and destroy that bitches camera/phone if their loved one was being filmed against their will in a time of crisis. Good shoot.

Yep, battery. No need to complicate or add context. Open/shut.. Could have been for any reason, in any situation. It was uncalled for regardless.