Grandmother Attacked Outside Planned Parenthood!

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Mursilis

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You are right. But I bet this woman because of HIPPA could use as a defense she was violating our right to medical privacy.

In court, you can use any defense you want, but that doesn't mean it will work, or the judge won't laugh at you.
 

lotus503

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I'm not sure if grandma violated privacy law, I just think there is cause to look at the situation to determine if she did.

I think a case could be made that filming people going in and out of the clinic is a violation of privacy.

Moreover if I ran the clinic I would potentially file a defamation/slander suit if in fact the ambulance was not there because of a botched abortion.

Moral if the story is there are other ways to deal with abortion protesting kookoo birds outside of violence.
 

Londo_Jowo

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You are right. But I bet this woman because of HIPPA could use as a defense she was violating our right to medical privacy

I bet she will lose as taking photos in a public place is protected by the 1st Amendment and is not a violation of HIPAA.

I get the lady trying to bring an awareness to the dangers of abortion. But man you can't be doing this kind of stuff, she went to far. Just because a person has a legal right, sometimes you go to far and just be unethical, I feel sorry for the lady, but I don't have much sympathy for her here.

The woman that committed the assault went too far and if caught will face the consequences for such.
 

Theb

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Filming the ambulance makes the point she was trying to make. Filming the patient on a gurney is classless and obviously risky with loved ones around.
 

Matt1970

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As long as it's someone on the other side getting assaulted and their personal property destryed all is good.
 

Pulsar

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It has been like that for some time and is the way it should be. Cant believe how some people are against the grandmother just because she is pro-life, bunch of idiots.

Dear Incorrupti(bible),

Yesterday you stated quite clearly that Burka's should not be allowed to be worn in public, clearly a violation of free speech.

Today, you are for the grandmother being able to video tape. Another thing protected under the First Amendment.

Can you please remind us when, and under what circumstances, you believe each Amendment in the Bill of Rights can be ignored? It will help for future conversations if we have an easy-to-reference cheat sheet.
 

DominionSeraph

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you actually think it is good to physically attack an old lady for praying in public.

Praying by video camera?

When you pray in front of an elementary school by ramming a dildo into your ass and screaming, "HITLER IS REBORN! THE LITTLE ONES MUST BE CLEANSED!," I am also not going to have a problem with the cops taking you away for "praying."
 
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Oyeve

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Dear Incorrupti(bible),

Yesterday you stated quite clearly that Burka's should not be allowed to be worn in public, clearly a violation of free speech.

Today, you are for the grandmother being able to video tape. Another thing protected under the First Amendment.

Can you please remind us when, and under what circumstances, you believe each Amendment in the Bill of Rights can be ignored? It will help for future conversations if we have an easy-to-reference cheat sheet.


Muahaha! Incorrupti(bible)! He so fails at life don't he?
 
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Dear Incorrupti(bible),

Yesterday you stated quite clearly that Burka's should not be allowed to be worn in public, clearly a violation of free speech.

Today, you are for the grandmother being able to video tape. Another thing protected under the First Amendment.

Can you please remind us when, and under what circumstances, you believe each Amendment in the Bill of Rights can be ignored? It will help for future conversations if we have an easy-to-reference cheat sheet.

I gave a link which showed many women are forced to wear the burka clearly a violation of their freedom. I dont agree with what the grandmother did but she has the right to do it. This is part of freedom.

If you have never been offended then you haven't lived in a free country.
 
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More and more I see just how insane you truly are. Your thought processes are beyond the norm.

You've developed your own version of reality. Get some help because you are getting worse month by month.

You say this, but you won't actually explain how my comments are insane or even merely inaccurate.
 
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There is no such thing as Christian Islamic religious law.

Of course not, but that wasn't the intended meaning of the term "Christian Sharia" and just about anyone with a couple brain cells could understand the intended meaning. It's a rhetorical device to help Christians understand how the imposition of Christian law would be just as barbaric as the imposition of Sharia law.

I'm not going to stop using the terms "Christian Taliban" and "Christian Sharia" precisely because they are so effective.
 
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:rolleyes:

If you're just going to make up facts, you might as well say she was on her way to bomb the clinic and kill everyone inside, too. Why not just go full-crazy?

What exactly do you think she was praying for? What kind of political positions do you thinks he supports? You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure this out.
 

Londo_Jowo

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What exactly do you think she was praying for?

Hmmmm praying that the women would change their minds and not have an abortion.

What kind of political positions do you thinks he supports?

Uhhhhh most likely a pro-life stance

You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure this out.

No, but it also doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out assault is far worse than someone exercising their 1st amendment right to pray or take photos in public.
 

SheHateMe

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Its always nice to see the tolerance of the left. Would you have this same reaction if a black guy protesting got beat up by whites? Or if a woman protestor was beat up by a guy?

Well, she only got pushed and kicked...it wasn't a Full-On assault. :awe:
Maybe should have made better choices...:awe:

More of the "my side can do whatever they want" mentality.

That's right. :awe:
 

Pulsar

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I gave a link which showed many women are forced to wear the burka clearly a violation of their freedom. I dont agree with what the grandmother did but she has the right to do it. This is part of freedom.

If you have never been offended then you haven't lived in a free country.

Ok. So you have a link showing Women are being forced to wear a burka.

I also have a link showing many woman have been raped.

Does that mean that we should outlaw consensual sex, because there are rapes?

Or, perhaps you can see the point: outlawing burka-wearing entirely just because a subset of women are forced to wear them is stupid. Nevermind the whole violation of the First Amendment, since you seem to pick and choose when to apply the constitution.
 

WHAMPOM

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In a sane world a woman can go see her Doctor to confirm a suspected pregnancy and then schedule either prenatal care or an abortion, chemical or surgically. And it is no one's business other then her and her Doctor.
 

sandorski

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If Prayer worked, Grandma wouldn't need to leave her house and Planned Parenthood would have shutdown years ago.
 

cybrsage

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Of course not, but that wasn't the intended meaning of the term "Christian Sharia" and just about anyone with a couple brain cells could understand the intended meaning. It's a rhetorical device to help Christians understand how the imposition of Christian law would be just as barbaric as the imposition of Sharia law.

I'm not going to stop using the terms "Christian Taliban" and "Christian Sharia" precisely because they are so effective.

Oh, so it is a lie. Thanks for clarifying that you are telling lies now and plan to continue to lie because you enjoy doing it. They are effective, at showing your lack of understanding about things. If that is your goal, to show us your lack of understanding, you succeeded well.
 

lotus503

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Oh, so it is a lie. Thanks for clarifying that you are telling lies now and plan to continue to lie because you enjoy doing it. They are effective, at showing your lack of understanding about things. If that is your goal, to show us your lack of understanding, you succeeded well.


I don't think its a lie its a parabole, to draw comparisons between Christianity and other religions who practice similar strict guidelines of thought and action.

I got what he was saying, not sure why you didn't.
 

cybrsage

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I don't think its a lie its a parabole, to draw comparisons between Christianity and other religions who practice similar strict guidelines of thought and action.

I got what he was saying, not sure why you didn't.

It would work if Christianity and the Taliban, or Christianity and Sharia Law were anything alike. They are not, so he fails.


EDIT: I understood what he was failing to say, which is why I challenged him...due to its complete failure. He might as well say "the Amish Infantry Division" when referring to Zulu Warriors...
 

lotus503

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It would work if Christianity and the Taliban, or Christianity and Sharia Law were anything alike. They are not, so he fails.


I think in some ways they share similarities. I think whether they are anything alike or not is subjective.
 

cybrsage

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I think in some ways they share similarities. I think whether they are anything alike or not is subjective.

They are both religions. They both have rules for ethical conduct. That is where their similarity ends. Democrats in Congress have rules for ethical conduct and all democrats are a member of a religion (according to the SCOTUS, even atheism is a religion for legal purposes), therefor it is legitimate to call the democrats in congress the DNC Taliban, right?

That is what I am saying, they are so different that his statement fails miserably. He only uses it because it makes him feel good and he can lie about Christianity at the same time (though that might be what makes him feel good, not sure).
 

lotus503

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They are both religions. They both have rules for ethical conduct. That is where their similarity ends. Democrats in Congress have rules for ethical conduct and all democrats are a member of a religion (according to the SCOTUS, even atheism is a religion for legal purposes), therefor it is legitimate to call the democrats in congress the DNC Taliban, right?

That is what I am saying, they are so different that his statement fails miserably. He only uses it because it makes him feel good and he can lie about Christianity at the same time (though that might be what makes him feel good, not sure).

You touched on something
rules for ethical conduct in which I find similarities betweeen say Christianity and other religions.

Its not shocking as most major world religions were derived from earlier belief systems.
 

mikeymikec

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Maybe you'll get what's coming to you one day. The grandmother prayed.

You mean she was engaging in that popular past time known as 'praying and recording'? Did anything else happen which wasn't mentioned in the article?

At the end of the day, I wasn't there and I don't particularly care, except maybe I worry about people who pick sides based on a single news article.

Nice, er, 'news source', you have there though OP.
 
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