Grandmother Attacked Outside Planned Parenthood!

[Incorruptible]

It looks like the old lady is just standing out on a public sidewalk holding a cell phone or camcorder, well within her rights as a citizen.

It's just sad how many people are attempting to justify this because it's the "other" team getting assaulted and denied their rights, but would be going ballistic if, say, private security guards did this same thing to protestors on a public sidewalk outside some big corporation's headquarters. I guess classic liberals like Burton Joseph (who represented the ACLU in National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie before the US Supreme Court) are truly dead.

This is typical liberal intolerance. If it happens to them they are outraged but if it happens to the other side then they are happy.

 

[Mursilis]

Side note, the grandma was violating the law when the woman came out of planned parenthood and she filmed her.

Delaware requires consent.

Just as I want the woman prosecuted for assault, I want grandma charged with invasion of privacy.

I don't know Delaware law, so I'll assume you're correct.

Is that even Constitutional? There's no expectation of privacy on a public street. I could only see the USSC supporting such a consent law if the consent were required only for commercial purposes, but for journalistic purposes? I doubt that would survive a legal challenge.

 

[Spungo]

How is it relevant if she is a grandmother? What a joke you are!

Agreed. Things refering to generation instead of age seem silly. Suppose a woman has a baby at age 16 and that baby has its own baby at age 16. It's possible to be a white trash grandmother before the age of 35 so saying someone is a grandmother doesn't really mean anything.

Why does planned parenthood have ambulances regularly pulling in? Have they started doing house call abortions? Abortion in 60 minutes or the pizza is free?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

I don't know Delaware law, so I'll assume you're correct.

Is that even Constitutional? There's no expectation of privacy on a public street. I could only see the USSC supporting such a consent law if the consent were required only for commercial purposes, but for journalistic purposes? I doubt that would survive a legal challenge.

They aren't filming a public street. They are filming people on private property. There's a huge difference under the law.

 

[Oyeve]

This is all so stupid on both sides and also the OP.

OP is just pushing his daily hate of all things non white-christian.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Side note, the grandma was violating the law when the woman came out of planned parenthood and she filmed her.

Delaware requires consent.

Just as I want the woman prosecuted for assault, I want grandma charged with invasion of privacy.

Can you provide a link to this law?

If I'm not mistaken taking photos or filming in public is protected by the 1st amendment.

 

[Incorruptible]

Can you provide a link to this law?

If I'm not mistaken taking photos or filming in public is protected by the 1st amendment.

It has been like that for some time and is the way it should be. Cant believe how some people are against the grandmother just because she is pro-life, bunch of idiots.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

They aren't filming a public street. They are filming people on private property. There's a huge difference under the law.

Maybe you should go look at the said location on street view. The incident occurred on a public sidewalk outside the building.

 

[lotus503]

Can you provide a link to this law?

If I'm not mistaken taking photos or filming in public is protected by the 1st amendment.

No specific link just that Delaware requires consent. Issue isn't public or not public, issue is reasonable expectation of privacy. I think it would be easy to prove someone coming out of an abortion clinic expects privacy.

Maybe not when they hit the public sidewalk but certainly within the property of the clinic.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Maybe you should go look at the said location on street view. The incident occurred on a public sidewalk outside the building.

Really? Because the screen capture seems to show inside the front door of the facility.

 

[lotus503]

It has been like that for some time and is the way it should be. Cant believe how some people are against the grandmother just because she is pro-life, bunch of idiots.

i am pro law and punishment for those that break it. As the door opens to the clinic she is filming.

You can't stand on a public sidewalk outside public property and film goings on within that private property without consent.

 

[Mursilis]

No specific link just that Delaware requires consent. Issue isn't public or not public, issue is reasonable expectation of privacy. I think it would be easy to prove someone coming out of an abortion clinic expects privacy.

Maybe not when they hit the public sidewalk but certainly within the property of the clinic.

In other words, the issue IS public vs. private. An expectation of privacy is a lot more reasonable in your own house vs. at the mall. Any legal expert will tell you that.

 

[Mursilis]

i am pro law and punishment for those that break it. As the door opens to the clinic she is filming.

You can't stand on a public sidewalk outside public property and film goings on within that private property without consent.

Source?

 

[Mursilis]

Really? Because the screen capture seems to show inside the front door of the facility.

So? You're allowed to observe private property (and what occurs there) from public areas. If you decide to stand in front of an open window in your own home, people on the public street in front of your house are free to observe you so long as they're not actually entering your property to do so. You have no expectation of privacy just because you're on private property.

 

[classy]

I don't condone what the lady did, but you don't tape people's personal business like that for your own agenda. The old lady was completely in the wrong. I don't even know if what she did was legal either. You don't have the right to just tape people. And by the womans's reaction, I willing to bet she asked that lady not to tape them.

 

[Mursilis]

I don't condone what the lady did, but you don't tape people's personal business like that for your own agenda. The old lady was completely in the wrong. I don't even know if what she did was legal either. You don't have the right to just tape people. And by the womans's reaction, I willing to bet she asked that lady not to tape them.

In some situations, yes, you do. Was that guy in LA wrong to tape the police beating the heck out of Rodney King?

You need to read more of the thread.

 

[KMFJD]

Grandma is no different than the Westboro Baptists

 

[classy]

Can you provide a link to this law?

If I'm not mistaken taking photos or filming in public is protected by the 1st amendment.

I am willing to bet that HIPPA laws will over ride what this woman did with filming them coming out of an abortion clinic. She didn't deserved to get roughed up though, but honestly I don't know. I don't know how I would feel if someone started taking pictures or filming me or someone in my family obviously in a private medical situation. This wasn't like a car accident or something like that.

 

[classy]

In some situations, yes, you do. Was that guy in LA wrong to tape the police beating the heck out of Rodney King?

You need to read more of the thread.

You are missing the whole point, this is a person taping someone who clearly was having a medical procedure and may have had complications. This is completely different.

 

[classy]

I would be interested to know if that lady asked her not to film them?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Really? Because the screen capture seems to show inside the front door of the facility.

The person filming or taking the photos is across the street from the office.

 

[nehalem256]

I am willing to bet that HIPPA laws will over ride what this woman did with filming them coming out of an abortion clinic. She didn't deserved to get roughed up though, but honestly I don't know. I don't know how I would feel if someone started taking pictures or filming me or someone in my family obviously in a private medical situation. This wasn't like a car accident or something like that.

As screwy as HIPPA laws are I doubt they protect the right not to be observed coming out of an abortion clinic(or other medical facility).

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I am willing to bet that HIPPA laws will over ride what this woman did with filming them coming out of an abortion clinic. She didn't deserved to get roughed up though, but honestly I don't know. I don't know how I would feel if someone started taking pictures or filming me or someone in my family obviously in a private medical situation. This wasn't like a car accident or something like that.

I don't think HIPAA protects people from having their photos taken in public areas (ie outside a hospital or doctor's office). Now had the person taken a photo of their medical records that would violate HIPAA.

 

[Mursilis]

I am willing to bet that HIPPA laws will over ride what this woman did with filming them coming out of an abortion clinic.

You'd lose that bet too. You may want to study the law more.

 

[classy]

I don't think HIPAA protects people from having their photos taken in public areas (ie outside a hospital or doctor's office). Now had the person taken a photo of their medical records that would violate HIPAA.

You are right. But I bet this woman because of HIPPA could use as a defense she was violating our right to medical privacy.

I get the lady trying to bring an awareness to the dangers of abortion. But man you can't be doing this kind of stuff, she went to far. Just because a person has a legal right, sometimes you go to far and just be unethical, I feel sorry for the lady, but I don't have much sympathy for her here.