:hmm: Enthusiasts overclock both 780 and 7970. I am not denying that 780 after-market cards are 40-45% faster than a stock 7970GE. I already addressed that in boxleitnerb's post. The difference in performance between 7970 OC and 580 OC is still larger than 780 OC vs. 7970 OC on average. 7970 was $100 more for 50-60% increase in performance when comparing overclocked vs. overclocked. NV is asking $300-350 more for 40-45% faster for overclockers when looking at 7970 OC vs. 780 OC. Your argument for justification of 780's price makes literally no sense after all the complaining you've done on 7970's launch price.
They're only asking $50 more than what people paid for Aftermarket 7970 non GHz cards.
I'm not justifying the price, simply arguing they aren't competing products in the same sense I don't compare my 7950 to 650 Boost, because I'd lose in your metrics. :thumbsup:
You also said nothing of the overpriced 770 cards. And seriously posting Heaven 4.0 scores? That's a joke right? This synthetic benchmark not only favours NV cards but it has no correlation with real world gaming performance. You know of a game that uses Heaven 4.0 game engine? But yet you completely ignored Metro LL and Tomb Raider as examples of latest games where the benefit of 780 is a 2-3 increases in settings, not much more?
No, but I said the entire 28nm generation was, so I think I covered it somewhere it there (780 too if you're confused). Speaking of things not mentioned, no peep from you about single card stutter or CF issues for a year and a half :hmm:
I'd post more but this community doesn't do real game threads often, I'd have to go to OCN or other communities that aren't entrenched tooth and nail in AMD vs Nvidia. Representative enough, my 7950s are around 670/680 performance, 7970 GHz is about 10% faster... Seems practical and applicable at the same time, we're talking about Enthusiasts here aren't we? Well they use the bench often, so plug that into your calculator.
This whole generation all you've done is just complained non-stop about CF and pricing of cards, despite the fact that after-market 7950s have dropped from $470-490 to $250-260 since launch. I am actually wondering why you don't sell the 7950s and just buy 760s or a single 780 because all you do is complain about broken AMD drivers and horrible price/performance.
Sure I have... I was going to sell my 7950s and get a 780, but my 7950s are a bit faster OC vs OC than a single 780.
I was waiting for the CF fix, the CF FIX FROM AMD, THE DRIVER TO FIX THE CROSSFIRE PROBLEMS FROM AMD OFFICALLY CROSSFIRE BROKEN NEEDS FIX FROM AMD FIXER.
One more point. GTX460 SLI cost about the same as GTX580. GTX460s overclocked beat GTX580 OC in games where VRAM was not an issue and SLi scaling was good. Fast forward: GTX760 SLI OC also beats Titan / 780 OC but costs a lot less. During Fermi generation then you could get 2 mid-range cards and beat the flagship but they didn't cost $150-500 less than the flagship card. That's now the case with $500 760 SLI vs. 780/Titan.
Ok? Some people like one fast card, some people want two mid-range which are faster and cheaper... I prefer second best in MGPU, but to each their own? Nvidia hosed me this gen, second best is $650, $1300 on GPUs isn't happening broski I do what I can with what I'm given.
Even more ironic is that you constantly complain about high pricing this generation and yet go out to justify $650 for 780 1.5 years after 7970 launched. You are a walking contradiction.
I'm not justifying anything, once again you're confused. I'm not a walking salesmen. I'm only pointing out comparing 7970 to 780 is a foolish proposition because they really aren't comparable if you need/want 780 performance because the 7970 doesn't offer it, ever, in anything.
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