Got Gas? U.S. Economy to Worsen as Gas Prices Skyrocket

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werepossum

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Do you know why everyone here treats you like an asshole? Because you are one. There is a nice way to talk to people and you never, ever opt for it.
In Dave's defense, he's a super nice guy in person. Different people have wildly varying levels of vitriolic acceptance. Someone like me, a caustic old bastard with rhino skin, doesn't think twice about his attacks, whereas a nice guy* like you is appalled. Dave believes in what he's saying, but he's not really an asshole. He just plays one on the Internet.

* Nice guy or nice girl; I've never asked if the pretty lady avatar is you.
 

Londo_Jowo

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Do you know why everyone here treats you like an asshole? Because you are one. There is a nice way to talk to people and you never, ever opt for it.


It's all good, I sleep well knowing I made at least 5 times more than McOwned did this past week. The client has already requested that I return the first week of November for start up. My services have netted the company $30k for the past week and my next visit will be close to $25k.
 

Doppel

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In Dave's defense, he's a super nice guy in person. Different people have wildly varying levels of vitriolic acceptance. Someone like me, a caustic old bastard with rhino skin, doesn't think twice about his attacks, whereas a nice guy* like you is appalled. Dave believes in what he's saying, but he's not really an asshole. He just plays one on the Internet.

* Nice guy or nice girl; I've never asked if the pretty lady avatar is you.
Let me assure you that I am absolutely and unequivocally less attractive than my avatar :$
 

dmcowen674

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10-9-2012

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/oil-price-soars-supply-jitters-164859120.html

Oil price soars on supply jitters

Oil jumps above $92 a barrel as Syria conflict, North Sea shutdowns raise supply worries



The price of oil rose more than 3 percent Tuesday on concerns about supplies from the Middle East and the North Sea.



Wholesale gasoline rose 6.6 cents, or 2.3 percent, to finish at $2.96 per gallon.



Prices rose again in California, although by the smallest amount in days. Drivers in the state are paying an average of $4.67 per gallon, up 49 cents in a week.
 

Doppel

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10-9-2012

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/oil-price-soars-supply-jitters-164859120.html

Oil price soars on supply jitters

Oil jumps above $92 a barrel as Syria conflict, North Sea shutdowns raise supply worries



The price of oil rose more than 3 percent Tuesday on concerns about supplies from the Middle East and the North Sea.



Wholesale gasoline rose 6.6 cents, or 2.3 percent, to finish at $2.96 per gallon.



Prices rose again in California, although by the smallest amount in days. Drivers in the state are paying an average of $4.67 per gallon, up 49 cents in a week.
Quoted for your anti-American oil-thug bold-faced lies.
 

Todd33

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Do you know why everyone here treats you like an asshole? Because you are one. There is a nice way to talk to people and you never, ever opt for it.

He didn't even "talk" to anyone, he posted some info from a link. Why the hostility?
 

GMC12

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Oil companies raise the cost they don't like to see Obama as president again that why the gas price is hi think about it oil companies are 100% and me 47%
 

dmcowen674

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10-10-2012

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-states-with-the-cheapest-gas.html

The States with the Cheapest Gas



Since June, gasoline prices have climbed more or less steadily and are now 35 cents per gallon higher than they were a year ago. According to AAA’s daily fuel gauge report, which measures gas prices around the country, gas prices have hit daily record highs at least once in each of the past six weeks. In Michigan and Ohio, prices rose by 50 cents per gallon in the past year. As of October 8, there are seven separate states with gas prices above $4.00 per gallon.


In 10 states the average price of a gallon of gas is $3.60 or less



Gas prices in all 10 states with the cheapest gas price have fallen, including Georgia, where the cost per gallon is down by 24 cents.


These are the 10 states with the cheapest gas.

1. South Carolina

> Regular gas price per gallon: $3.49
> Tax per gallon: 16.8 cents (4th lowest)
> Number of operating refineries: 0

Nowhere is gas cheaper than in South Carolina, where gas is 28 cents per gallon cheaper than the national average, and three cents cheaper than the second-cheapest state, Mississippi. Contributing to low prices are some of the lowest gas taxes in the country; South Carolina charges an excise tax of just 16 cents per gallon and other fees and taxes of only 0.8 cents per gallon. On September 15, 2008, prices hit their historical peak in the state, at $4.12. In June, gas prices fell below $3 per gallon.

2. Mississippi

> Regular gas price per gallon: $3.52
> Tax per gallon: 18.8 cents (7th lowest)
> Number of operating refineries: 3

Last year, Mississippi had a median household income of just $36,919, making it the poorest state in the country by that measure. Although the state’s economy is suffering, there has only been a 25 cents per gallon increase in Mississippi’s gas prices over the past year, compared a rise of 36 cents nationally. The state currently charges just 18.8 cents in state taxes per gallon of gas, less than all but six states. Costs also were kept down by a close proximity to the nation’s largest oil refiners, Louisiana and Texas.


3. Alabama

> Regular gas price per gallon: $3.53
> Tax per gallon: 20.9 cents (14th lowest)
> Number of operating refineries: 3

One year ago, gas cost $3.30 a gallon in the state, compared to an average of $3.42 nationwide. At that time, gas prices in 12 states were cheaper than in Alabama. Since then, the state’s prices have risen by only 24 cents per gallon compared to a national average increase of 36 cents per gallon, making gas in the state far cheaper relative to the rest of the United States. The state helps keep costs low for drivers by limiting gas taxes. The state’s excise tax of 16 cents a gallon is among the lowest in the county.

4. Tennessee

> Regular gas price per gallon: $3.53
> Tax per gallon: 21.4 cents (15th lowest)
> Number of operating refineries: 1

As of the second quarter of this year, no state was cheaper to live in than Tennessee. One major reason for the state’s low relative cost of living was its low transportation costs, despite starting 2012 with four consecutive months of gas price increases. Although the state has just one refinery, the price of gas is 24 cents per gallon below the national average price. In the past month, gas prices in Tennessee have fallen by 12 cents a gallon, one of the largest decreases in the country.

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5. Texas

> Regular gas price per gallon: $3.54
> Tax per gallon: 20 cents (tied for 11th lowest)
> Number of operating refineries: 26

Texas is the nation’s largest oil refiner, processing almost 4.66 million barrels per day — more than a quarter of the nation’s output — in its 26 operating refineries. Like Louisiana, the state further helps keep gas prices low by not charging any state taxes aside from a 20-cent excise tax. Two of the largest public companies in the nation, Exxon Mobil Corp. (NYSE: XOM) and Phillips 66 (NYSE: PSX), are Texas-based oil companies.

6. Louisiana

> Regular gas price per gallon: $3.57
> Tax per gallon: 20 cents (tied for 11th lowest)
> Number of operating refineries: 18

Only Texas refines more oil into gasoline than Louisiana, which has 18 operating refineries processing nearly 3.2 million barrels per calendar day. The abundance of locally processed gas and the total absence of any state gas taxes aside from an excise tax make trips to the pump highly affordable. The state is also home to the Louisiana Offshore Oil Port, which, according to the EIA, is the nation’s only port for offloading deep draft oil tankers.

7. Missouri

> Regular gas price per gallon: $3.58
> Tax per gallon: 17.3 cents (6th lowest)
> Number of operating refineries: 0

Although one year ago Missouri had the cheapest gas in the U.S., in the past year the price of gas has risen by 45 cents per gallon — more than in any other state. Despite the absence of any in-state refineries, Missouri has some of the nation’s lowest gas taxes, allowing gas to be sold at comparatively low prices. Among the state’s metropolitan areas, St. Louis has the cheapest gas at just $3.49 per gallon.

8. Arkansas

> Regular gas price per gallon: $3.58
> Tax per gallon: 21.8 cents (16th lowest)
> Number of operating refineries: 2

Arkansas has access to locally refined gasoline. It has two refineries of its own, and it borders Louisiana and Texas, the two largest oil refiners in the country as measured by barrels per day. Having numerous refineries nearby helps lower the price of gas for Arkansas drivers, who presently pay 18 cents less per gallon than the national average of $3.78 a gallon. Arkansas also charges just 0.3 cents in other taxes per gallon in excise taxes.

9. Georgia

> Regular gas price per gallon: $3.58
> Tax per gallon: 28.6 cents (20th highest)
> Number of operating refineries: 0

Georgia’s excise tax of 7.5 cents per gallon of gas is lower than any state except for Florida’s. But with 21.1 cents per gallon in other fees and taxes, Georgians actually pay more in gas taxes than residents of 30 other states. High taxes likely contributed to the state’s relatively higher transportation costs midyear — the most expensive among those states with the lowest gas prices. The good news for drivers, however, is that the price of gas has fallen by 24 cents per gallon over the past month, more than in any other state.

10. Virginia

> Regular gas price per gallon: $3.60
> Tax per gallon: 20.1 cents (13th lowest)
> Number of operating refineries: 0

In the second quarter of 2012, the relative cost of transportation in Virginia was among the country’s lowest. Low gas prices are likely one reason for this. Virginia is also one of the wealthiest states in the country, with a median household income of $61,882 as of last year. Currently, Virginia charges 20.1 cents per gallon in total taxes and fees — more than 10 cents per gallon below the national average and inline with other states where gas is inexpensive.
 

dmcowen674

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You can see by the smug posts by the oil thug Industry workers in here how insane their wages have become at the expense of hard working Americans.


10-14-2012

http://news.yahoo.com/lonely-hard-oil-rigs-salaries-soaring-210944273--finance.html


Lonely, hard work on oil rigs, but salaries soaring



Slightly over twenty years ago, Johnathan Roberts started work on an oil rig at $5 an hour. Today, the newly appointed operations manager of Norway's Standard Drilling makes about half a million dollars a year. Even accounting for inflation, it's a huge jump for the 45-year-old American.

"The amount of money they are making an hour is just mind-boggling now, just five years ago they were making just half that," said Roberts, who moved to Singapore this year from Texas. He said his pay more than doubled in 1999 when the industry faced a labour shortage like the one that appears to be emerging.

"After clearing taxes, my first check after one week was $167," he said. "My first apartment was very small, it was a little bitty one bedroom studio."


Today, Roberts owns a home in a community in Texas that has manicured lawns, landscaped gardens and four golf courses. He is saving to buy a $2 million ranch.
 

Londo_Jowo

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You can see by the smug posts by the oil thug Industry workers in here how insane their wages have become at the expense of hard working Americans.


10-14-2012

http://news.yahoo.com/lonely-hard-oil-rigs-salaries-soaring-210944273--finance.html


Lonely, hard work on oil rigs, but salaries soaring



Slightly over twenty years ago, Johnathan Roberts started work on an oil rig at $5 an hour. Today, the newly appointed operations manager of Norway's Standard Drilling makes about half a million dollars a year. Even accounting for inflation, it's a huge jump for the 45-year-old American.

"The amount of money they are making an hour is just mind-boggling now, just five years ago they were making just half that," said Roberts, who moved to Singapore this year from Texas. He said his pay more than doubled in 1999 when the industry faced a labour shortage like the one that appears to be emerging.

"After clearing taxes, my first check after one week was $167," he said. "My first apartment was very small, it was a little bitty one bedroom studio."


Today, Roberts owns a home in a community in Texas that has manicured lawns, landscaped gardens and four golf courses. He is saving to buy a $2 million ranch.

Why do hate union workers?
 

DucatiMonster696

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You can see by the smug posts by the oil thug Industry workers in here how insane their wages have become at the expense of hard working Americans.


10-14-2012

http://news.yahoo.com/lonely-hard-oil-rigs-salaries-soaring-210944273--finance.html


Lonely, hard work on oil rigs, but salaries soaring



Slightly over twenty years ago, Johnathan Roberts started work on an oil rig at $5 an hour. Today, the newly appointed operations manager of Norway's Standard Drilling makes about half a million dollars a year. Even accounting for inflation, it's a huge jump for the 45-year-old American.

"The amount of money they are making an hour is just mind-boggling now, just five years ago they were making just half that," said Roberts, who moved to Singapore this year from Texas. He said his pay more than doubled in 1999 when the industry faced a labour shortage like the one that appears to be emerging.

"After clearing taxes, my first check after one week was $167," he said. "My first apartment was very small, it was a little bitty one bedroom studio."


Today, Roberts owns a home in a community in Texas that has manicured lawns, landscaped gardens and four golf courses. He is saving to buy a $2 million ranch.

The nerve of those oil companies paying their employees high salaries. /sarcasm

I guess you believe that guy should of stayed at $5 an hour? LOLOLOLOL
 

blackangst1

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You can see by the smug posts by the oil thug Industry workers in here how insane their wages have become at the expense of hard working Americans.


10-14-2012

http://news.yahoo.com/lonely-hard-oil-rigs-salaries-soaring-210944273--finance.html


Lonely, hard work on oil rigs, but salaries soaring



Slightly over twenty years ago, Johnathan Roberts started work on an oil rig at $5 an hour. Today, the newly appointed operations manager of Norway's Standard Drilling makes about half a million dollars a year. Even accounting for inflation, it's a huge jump for the 45-year-old American.

"The amount of money they are making an hour is just mind-boggling now, just five years ago they were making just half that," said Roberts, who moved to Singapore this year from Texas. He said his pay more than doubled in 1999 when the industry faced a labour shortage like the one that appears to be emerging.

"After clearing taxes, my first check after one week was $167," he said. "My first apartment was very small, it was a little bitty one bedroom studio."


Today, Roberts owns a home in a community in Texas that has manicured lawns, landscaped gardens and four golf courses. He is saving to buy a $2 million ranch.

Why do you hate blue collar workers? Theyre just trying to provide for their families...
 

Smoblikat

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I hope obummer keeps preventing us from drilling domestically and keeps investing our hard earned tax money in failed companies. Its working REALLY well.
 

dmcowen674

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No wonder McOwned hasn't been posting so much lately in the "Got Gas? U.S. Economy to Worsen as Gas Prices Skyrocket" thread.It must kill him that gas prices aren't $5+/gal.

The reports of near ~$3 gas is still not true in the city of Chicago nor it's suburbs.

Chicago is still hanging close to ~$4

Out here in the burbs lowest I've seen is still north of ~$3.50 at ~$3.66

10-20-2012

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/10/20/gasoline-prices/1641935/

Gas prices could soon drop 50 cents a gallon



Early fall run-up in gasoline prices is fading fast. With inventories rising and demand slowing, wholesale gas prices are plunging. Consumers should see some major price cuts at the pump within weeks.



Autumn gasoline prices are about to drop faster than fall foliage.
With inventories rising and demand waning, gasoline prices could plunge 50 cents a gallon from October's $3.86 peak average over the next few weeks, providing a lift for the economy and possibly becoming a factor in next month's presidential election.


Gasoline, now averaging $3.69 a gallon, is expected to fall to $3.35 or lower by late November.



In some regions, prices have already sunk below $3.

"Most of the country is heading appreciably lower the next few weeks,'' says Tom Kloza of the Oil Price Information Service, who notes wholesale prices in some key markets have dropped from as high as $4.35 a gallon to $2.71

On Friday, gasbuddy.com was tracking some central Ohio stations selling gas for $2.97 a gallon. Gas prices remain stubbornly high in California -- the nation's priciest state averaging $4.51 a gallon -- although some stations are charging more than $5. Energy experts expect prices to bottom in the $4 range. "California is not completely out of the woods yet regarding supplies, and their refineries haven't been able to keep up,'' Milne says.

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Remember there is no:

No oil shortage - ever

No refinery shortage - ever (Refineries have in fact closed becuase of too much capacity)

No Gasoline shortage - ever (including California where they lied openly about being out of gasoline)

The number one export of the United States is gasoline.

The president and every President is responsible for this situation.

It is un-American as Standard Oil was back in the early 1900's and is again today.

Americans are letting this happen and deserve to screwed over until they grow a spind, rise up against it and stop it.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally Posted by dmcowen674
The reports of near ~$3 gas is still not true in the city of Chicago nor it's suburbs.

Chicago is still hanging close to ~$4

Out here in the burbs lowest I've seen is still north of ~$3.50 at ~$3.66



Poor baby, gas is getting close to $3/gal here.

Nope

Still don't bother me.

As soon as my ribs heal I'll be back on the bike saving gas.

It survived the wreck better than I did.
 

redgtxdi

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FWIW, I paid $4.51 here in So Cal Friday at a cheap Mobil station and $4.45 at Costco the day before that. Those are both still ridiculously expensive prices if you ask me.

P.S. After having filled up at $4.51, I took a run into L.A. where I saw several stations showing the $4.7x range. Again, not cheap.
 

dmcowen674

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So not only do we have an oversupply of gasoline that the United States number one export is gasoline but now the U.S. is about to be the world's largest exporter of oil as well.

In fact one of the biggest ramp ups of manufacturing is storage tanks because there is no where to put all the excess oil.

What about all the lies from Romney that the U.S. is producing less oil than under Bush?

10-23-2012

http://news.yahoo.com/us-could-soon-overtake-saudi-arabia-worlds-biggest-211015790.html

US could soon overtake Saudi Arabia as world's biggest oil producer



Driven by high prices and new drilling methods, U.S. production of crude and other liquid hydrocarbons is on track to rise 7 per cent this year to an average of 10.9 million barrels per day.



This will be the fourth straight year of crude increases and the biggest single-year gain since 1951.


The boom has surprised even the experts.

"Five years ago, if I or anyone had predicted today's production growth, people would have thought we were crazy," says Jim Burkhard, head of oil markets research at IHS CERA, an energy consulting firm.


The Energy Department forecasts that U.S. production of crude and other liquid hydrocarbons, which includes biofuels, will average 11.4 million barrels per day next year. That would be a record for the U.S. and just below Saudi Arabia's output of 11.6 million barrels.



Citibank forecasts U.S. production could reach 13 million to 15 million barrels per day by 2020, helping to make North America "the new Middle East."

The increase in production hasn't translated to cheaper gasoline at the pump

By the end of this year, U.S. crude output will be at its highest level since 1998 and oil imports will be lower than at any time since 1992, at 41 per cent of consumption.

More of the money that Americans spend at filling stations will flow to domestic drillers, which are then more likely to buy equipment here and hire more U.S. workers.

"Drivers will have to pay high prices, sure, but at least they'll have a job," Verleger says.
 

DucatiMonster696

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So not only do we have an oversupply of gasoline that the United States number one export is gasoline but now the U.S. is about to be the world's largest exporter of oil as well.

In fact one of the biggest ramp ups of manufacturing is storage tanks because there is no where to put all the excess oil.

What about all the lies from Romney that the U.S. is producing less oil than under Bush?

10-23-2012

http://news.yahoo.com/us-could-soon-overtake-saudi-arabia-worlds-biggest-211015790.html

US could soon overtake Saudi Arabia as world's biggest oil producer



Driven by high prices and new drilling methods, U.S. production of crude and other liquid hydrocarbons is on track to rise 7 per cent this year to an average of 10.9 million barrels per day.



This will be the fourth straight year of crude increases and the biggest single-year gain since 1951.


The boom has surprised even the experts.

"Five years ago, if I or anyone had predicted today's production growth, people would have thought we were crazy," says Jim Burkhard, head of oil markets research at IHS CERA, an energy consulting firm.


The Energy Department forecasts that U.S. production of crude and other liquid hydrocarbons, which includes biofuels, will average 11.4 million barrels per day next year. That would be a record for the U.S. and just below Saudi Arabia's output of 11.6 million barrels.



Citibank forecasts U.S. production could reach 13 million to 15 million barrels per day by 2020, helping to make North America "the new Middle East."

The increase in production hasn't translated to cheaper gasoline at the pump

By the end of this year, U.S. crude output will be at its highest level since 1998 and oil imports will be lower than at any time since 1992, at 41 per cent of consumption.

More of the money that Americans spend at filling stations will flow to domestic drillers, which are then more likely to buy equipment here and hire more U.S. workers.

"Drivers will have to pay high prices, sure, but at least they'll have a job," Verleger says.

Before you wet your pants......

Right at the beginning of the article you linked it explains why we have more wells opening up. It is because the price of oil is high enough currently that it makes hard to tap oil wells profitable and worth tapping at these specific high prices.

If any other significant oil producing nation decides to flood the market with oil then the worldwide price for oil will drop and those wells generating the boost to our own oil production will no longer be profitable to tap.

Or worse if the federal government decides to crack down on the new drilling techniques (e.g. Fracking) then that would also endanger the current status of our oil production (and all the jobs attached to it) in the long term. This boost is not set in stone and is highly dependent on many variables which affect the price of oil in order for the US to continue our production rates to be on par with other major oil producing nation in the long term.
 

DucatiMonster696

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FWIW, I paid $4.51 here in So Cal Friday at a cheap Mobil station and $4.45 at Costco the day before that. Those are both still ridiculously expensive prices if you ask me.

P.S. After having filled up at $4.51, I took a run into L.A. where I saw several stations showing the $4.7x range. Again, not cheap.

Gasbuddy is your friend. I paid less for gas in SF then you did just by utilizing the gasbuddy website and locating the lowest priced gas station in the city.

http://www.losangelesgasprices.com/index.aspx?fuel=A&area=Los Angeles&dl=Y&intro=Y