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GOP pandering to racists.....again!

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cybrsage

Lifer
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Absolutely nothing in what you just wrote establishes your argument.

The original statement was this:



That is the comment to which you said:


The original question and answer referred to the necessity of voter ID laws to uphold the Constitution. Providing a link that says the states can manage their own elections does nothing to either confirm or deny the necessity of voter ID laws to uphold the Constitution, merely that states have the discretion to implement them.

Do you even remember what you are trying to argue about?

What is the direct effect of allowing anyone to vote without having to prove they are a citizen? If you claim no dead people or illegals vote, you are purposefully being stupid.

Oh, and my asking your age is simply for my own information. I want to know if I should feel bad because you're so young, or feel embarrassed for you because you aren't.

You are asking because you like red herrings. If you are going to use them you best not cry about others doing it to. Jussayin
 

cybrsage

Lifer
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Due to being new here, I was unaware I am actually trying to discuss things with trolls. I have been informed I am feeding trolls. I apologize to all the others on the forum for accidently feeding the trolls.
 

fskimospy

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What is the direct effect of allowing anyone to vote without having to prove they are a citizen? If you claim no dead people or illegals vote, you are purposefully being stupid.

There are other laws in place to prevent this already. This argument is specifically about photo ID requirements for voting, nothing else. Are you making the argument that the presence or absence of voter ID laws is the only thing standing between a state enforcing the Constitution and not? Because that's the argument your posts have made.

Regardless of that, your previous post on the 10th amendment had nothing to do with this. Try to stay on topic.

You are asking because you like red herrings. If you are going to use them you best not cry about others doing it to. Jussayin

Hey, don't answer if you don't want to. I'm just trying to figure out why your behavior is so bad.
 

cybrsage

Lifer
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wwybywb? what would yo bama's young white brother do? Does Obama have a young white brother?
 

RampantAndroid

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None. That's the point. Republican controlled states are rushing to pass laws requiring photo ID to vote. The laws in Virginia & PA for example are fine with me.

Why is it so horrible? No photo ID, no vote. Seems ok to me...being from PA I seem to remember it being shown a lot of dead people voted in Philly. No source for that, and I won't look until I'm on a real PC again :)
 

Macamus Prime

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Obama "grew up in a privileged way", "never had to work for anything", "never had ups and downs in life" "Obama's upbringing is what distances him from Americans"

So let's dissect and analyze

Obama grew up with a single parent mother who at sometime was on food stamps. At some point in time cared for an ailing grandmother. Went to college on his own ability. Became President of the Harvard Law review which is only earned by merit. Took his degree and went to work in the community.http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/68586.html

Another story about how Obama is both the Alpha and Omega of disapproval towards his actions. Obama can't do anything right,.. or even wrong.

The birthers where told to STFU - yet they "question" a crease on the top left corner, if you hold the certificate upside down and close one eye, as sun light hits it off of a mirror from east side of the room - which has blue paint on the walls,... yup it's a fake.

He is weak against terrorism - yet vindicates the victims of 9/11.

He has disrespected American citizenship - by ordering a known terrorist to be executed.

He is a communist and I disapprove if such anti-American practices - but, it's OK for me to send my business and work for China.

It's down right disgusting.
 

cybrsage

Lifer
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Proof positive, you can't argue with stupid ^^^.

YOU are the one who typed some random letters on the screen and did not say what they mean. I was simply trying to put some sense into your post.

If you are upset with anyone, be upset with the dork who posted the random letters.
 

soundforbjt

Lifer
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Why is it so horrible? No photo ID, no vote. Seems ok to me...being from PA I seem to remember it being shown a lot of dead people voted in Philly. No source for that, and I won't look until I'm on a real PC again :)

So, you are ok with a poll tax? By requiring someone to purchase a photo ID, you are making them pay a fee to vote.
 

RampantAndroid

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So, you are ok with a poll tax? By requiring someone to purchase a photo ID, you are making them pay a fee to vote.

I realized this was an issue to be considered when I typed this the other night. But what is the alternative? We have no other easy way to produce ID for someone that is legit. I mean...I'd love to see us have a system where you had to have your finger scanned as well as a retinal scan or something...but we don't have the infrastructure for that.

But my retort is this: Are you OK with obamacare? It makes buying something mandatory as well. To everyone for obamacare, then I say they either support photo ID requirements and the attached fees that go with, or they are hyprocrites.

Really, there should be an option to get a free photo ID .
 

cybrsage

Lifer
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So, you are ok with a poll tax? By requiring someone to purchase a photo ID, you are making them pay a fee to vote.

Unless you live very close to the polling center, you already have to pay for the bus or gas money to go to the polls. Using your logic, doing this is a poll tax and therefor gas and buses should be free on voting day...

If the ID was only useful for voting, I would agree with you. Voting is one of many uses for an ID.
 

Ninjahedge

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RA, try and keep Obamacare out of this. They are different enough that colluding them only brings confusion.

And the fallacy of "being forced to purchase something" is ludicrous. There are MANY things that we are made to purchase that few of us need.

SOME of which actually save us money as a nation.

Something like Universal Health Care, at least at the general practitioner level, would keep much money from insurance companies that have enough money to show dozens of prime-time ads of smiling families and elderly on EVERY NIGHT. Money does not grow on trees... They are getting it from us (25% marked "cost" AAMOF).

The issue, like many, has been taken out of context and twisted around to somehow make the Insurance companies the "good guys".

Money wins again.

GG!
 

Fayd

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From your article


I'll accept that :)

you should read the article a little better.

viewers of fox morning shows were about national average. viewers of on topic shows like o'reilly and hannity's shows were in the "highly informed" category.

the article's conclusion is that the claim that fox viewers are particularly uninforrmed is not valid.
 

RampantAndroid

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RA, try and keep Obamacare out of this. They are different enough that colluding them only brings confusion.

And the fallacy of "being forced to purchase something" is ludicrous. There are MANY things that we are made to purchase that few of us need.

SOME of which actually save us money as a nation.

Something like Universal Health Care, at least at the general practitioner level, would keep much money from insurance companies that have enough money to show dozens of prime-time ads of smiling families and elderly on EVERY NIGHT. Money does not grow on trees... They are getting it from us (25% marked "cost" AAMOF).

The issue, like many, has been taken out of context and twisted around to somehow make the Insurance companies the "good guys".

Money wins again.

GG!

No, you are now forced to buy health care. If you don't you are fined. That is the government forcing you into a deal with a private company. I'm pointing out that if you are for that stupid model that is totally unconstitutional then you must also be ok with a poll tax. I only brought it up to point out potential hypocrisy. You're the one arguing about it :)
 

soundforbjt

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Unless you live very close to the polling center, you already have to pay for the bus or gas money to go to the polls. Using your logic, doing this is a poll tax and therefor gas and buses should be free on voting day...

If the ID was only useful for voting, I would agree with you. Voting is one of many uses for an ID.

Many poor areas have free transportation to voting on election day.
 

Ninjahedge

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No, you are now forced to buy health care. If you don't you are fined. That is the government forcing you into a deal with a private company. I'm pointing out that if you are for that stupid model that is totally unconstitutional then you must also be ok with a poll tax. I only brought it up to point out potential hypocrisy. You're the one arguing about it :)

Um, no I am not.
 

Ausm

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Yet another example of your inability for complex understanding. The only thing you ever seem to see is the R or the D. You're hopeless.

Oh I didn't realize you were a Mensa member...please wow me with your brilliant mind!

o_O
 

Zebo

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So, you are ok with a poll tax? By requiring someone to purchase a photo ID, you are making them pay a fee to vote.

Trivial solution. Free state IDs if you have no license. I'm sure you'll find another objection.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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From 2000-2007 we have had 80 convictions of voter fraud. That's out of almost 300 million votes.

Statistically that's 0 voter fruad.

So again since the constitution is already being upheld why are we doing this?

Also in the same breath why are states restricting early voting?
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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More racist code words coming from the right wing machine. I'll keep it here since the mean time between these transmissions is shrinking.

Rush Limbaugh referred to First Lady Michele Obama as "uppidy"

The most common use of this term is a slur against black people defined as

"a black person who by social definition is "not in their place""

http://www.theroot.com/buzz/limbaugh-michelle-obamas-uppity-ism

As if the FLOTUS is not in "her place" attending an event supporting military families. I would give her credit for attending knowing NASCAR would not be the friendliest of venues.