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outriding

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Hmm seems pretty clear to me..

When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best," Trump said. "They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists.

http://time.com/3923128/donald-trump-announcement-speech/

Sweet baby jeebus. How many times can
Chiropteran be wrong before he sees the light
 

Chiropteran

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How many times can
Chiropteran be wrong before he sees the light

LOL. More lies. I'm never wrong, and it just pisses you off so much doesn't it? So much that you have to blatantly lie.

You edited and cut off the quote "And some, I assume, are good people."

Nothing could be more clear. He is saying some are good people, period. There is no other way to spin it.

But hey, thanks for showing off your lack of ethics by posting an edited quote.
 

Grooveriding

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Where is this jpg from ? Did you create this extensively vetted, thorough and well reasoned article-picture of typing a name into the google search box yourself ?
 

outriding

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Regardless if I cut off the quote... You cannot say they are rapists and good people. Those are completely contradictory of each other.

You can Say they are hard working and good people both of those adjectives compliment each other but it makes zero sense to say they are druggies rapists and good people..
 

Grooveriding

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Hmm seems pretty clear to me..

When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best," Trump said. "They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists.

http://time.com/3923128/donald-trump-announcement-speech/

Sweet baby jeebus. How many times can
Chiropteran be wrong before he sees the light

An infinite number of times, there is no coming back from being that disconnected.

The irony of Trump's wall is that the lion's share of criminal activity coming over that border is drug related. The cartels are better funded than the agencies on the other side of the border tasked with dealing with them. The drugs will continue to flow.

If Trump actually gave a damn about the crime of the Mexican border, he'd be pushing for drug legalization. But it's not about stopping crime, it's about reeling in the pants shitting cowards that are afraid of every boogey man presented to them. Or wanting to blame their employment situation, and then their personal responsibility to get a job and/or viable education on anyone but themselves.
 
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Chiropteran

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Regardless if I cut off the quote... You cannot say they are rapists and good people. Those are completely contradictory of each other.

Obviously. Which is why any rational human will read that as and see that Trump is saying some are rapist, some are criminals, and some are good people.

Keep in mind this was a spoken speech. Punctuation and such was put into place by reporters doing the transcription, not Trump.

In particular "They're rapists." is nonsense. Obviously he said "there are rapists", which phonetically sounds the exact same.
 

Chiropteran

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An infinite number of times, there is no coming back from being that disconnected.

The irony of Trump's wall is that the lion's share of criminal activity coming over that border is drug related. The cartels are better funded than the agencies on the other side of the border tasked with dealing with them. The drugs will continue to flow.

If Trump actually gave a damn about the crime of the Mexican border, he'd be pushing for drug legalization. But it's not about stopping crime, it's about reeling in the pants shitting cowards that are afraid of every boogey man presented to them. Or wanting to blame their employment situation, and then their personal responsibility to get a job and/or viable education on anyone but themselves.

Oh look, grooverriding is too dumb to look up the full quote, takes the edited version at face value.
 

HamburgerBoy

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In particular "They're rapists." is nonsense. Obviously he said "there are rapists", which phonetically sounds the exact same.

I think you're trying to remember a defense of Trump you read some place that suggested he said "Their rapists" rather than "They're rapists", the implication that Mexico sends their rapists, not that everyone Mexico sends are rapists. "They're" and "There are" are not phonetically identical.
 

Chiropteran

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I think you're trying to remember a defense of Trump you read some place that suggested he said "Their rapists" rather than "They're rapists", the implication that Mexico sends their rapists, not that everyone Mexico sends are rapists. "They're" and "There are" are not phonetically identical.

That makes even more sense. I just figured it couldn't be "they're rapist".
 

Younigue

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Obviously. Which is why any rational human will read that as and see that Trump is saying some are rapist, some are criminals, and some are good people.

Keep in mind this was a spoken speech. Punctuation and such was put into place by reporters doing the transcription, not Trump.

In particular "They're rapists." is nonsense. Obviously he said "there are rapists", which phonetically sounds the exact same.

But this is what we're saying. You are the irrational one, you and your Orange Reason to Live.

He is suggesting that only some of them are good people when in fact it is the vast majority. It's hate speak, it's fear mongering and its ugly. He also sounds like a complete and utter moron every time he speaks. Combine his ignorance and his hate and you get a whole lot of people thinking/knowing that anyone continuing to support him has at minimum some comprehension issues.

Are you putting the wrong emphasis on the wrong syllable? Maybe try saying the quote different ways... do it in the mirror. While you're there remind yourself that The Orange Substance is requiring you to defend him an awful lot.
 

Grooveriding

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Funny how he keeps ducking the question isn't it?

The safe bet is that it's some really weird and heavily biased source. So at least avoiding the question forces some small internal acknowledgement of using bad information from the expectation of ridicule for revealing a ludicrous 'source'.
 
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Chiropteran

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Funny how he keeps ducking the question isn't it?

Oh smart one, please tell me the relevance.

Oh yeah.

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You want to know my source so you can attack it's authority. Real A+ debate skills. How about you forget about where it came from and debate the actual facts?
 

Chiropteran

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The safe bet is that it's some really weird and heavily biased source. So at least avoiding the question forces some small internal acknowledgement of using bad information from the expectation of ridicule for revealing a ludicrous 'source'.

Haha, I knew it.

Tip: "grooveriding" is a heavily biased source, and respected less than *any* website on the internet. Even personal blogs hold more sway than you. So please work on arguing against my actual point rather than trying to attack the source.
 
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Oh smart one, please tell me the relevance.

Oh yeah.

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You want to know my source so you can attack it's authority. Real A+ debate skills. How about you forget about where it came from and debate the actual facts?

Why is it so hard for you to provide the source?
 

brycejones

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Oh smart one, please tell me the relevance.

Oh yeah.

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You want to know my source so you can attack it's authority. Real A+ debate skills. How about you forget about where it came from and debate the actual facts?

Lol so you are expecting us to take your copied picture from some unknown source as gospel.

Troll on I guess.
 

Chiropteran

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Honestly this is some of the dumbest shit I have ever responded to.

You guys are pushing the idea that something that can be 100% verified independently is either true or not based on the source it came from... rather than the simple test of seeing if it's true or not.

I guess the "Trump is anti science" arguments are just projection. It just boggles my mind how you could be so deluded to think a provable fact might actually be false just because of coming from a certain source.
 

Younigue

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Oh smart one, please tell me the relevance.

Oh yeah.

w1oMnqn.png


You want to know my source so you can attack it's authority. Real A+ debate skills. How about you forget about where it came from and debate the actual facts?

Lol, you make me laugh. Stand behind your source (by naming it proudly). That's what a true debate looks like.