Google 6/6 Pro Specs Leaked

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sze5003

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I did contact Google this morning about the 6 Pro's screen getting stuck at 60hz even after the factory reset. A reboot usually fixes this but it has come back many times.

They are sending me a new device.
 

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Read an article on one of the android sites about how good the battery life was on the 6 he was testing. I suspect there is some app that is causing the drain. I turned on the always on lock screen to compare with the past week where it's been off. I'll see if that has any effect. 5G definitely does.
Google says that dry skin is one of the problems with the FP reader. Makes sense for me since I work in a shop about half the day and am constantly using solvents and washing my hands.
 

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Read an article on one of the android sites about how good the battery life was on the 6 he was testing. I suspect there is some app that is causing the drain. I turned on the always on lock screen to compare with the past week where it's been off. I'll see if that has any effect. 5G definitely does.
Google says that dry skin is one of the problems with the FP reader. Makes sense for me since I work in a shop about half the day and am constantly using solvents and washing my hands.
Always on lock screen will use more battery but it should be a very small amount. The issue I see now with the always on display is that the lock screen renders at 120hz when ideally it shouldn't.

I bet my replacement device will have the same issue. But since you have a regular 6, you probably won't notice that much of a difference compared to 5G turned off. The regular 6 also has different 5g modems compared to the pro, I think depending on the model, carrier unlocked or not.
I may have to do a fresh install of Android too. My phone is losing nearly 2% battery an hour with the screen off overnight. This has happened before so it's not a pixel 6 thing, it's an Android thing
Yes this has always been a thing on Android, some people lose up to 5-10% overnight even when they don't use always on display. You can try putting it in airplane mode overnight or turn off data and leave it on wifi to see which is the culprit for drain.
 

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I got my 6 from T-Mobile so it has the antennas and modem for their network which doesn't use the mmWave bands. I'm sure that made it somewhat cheaper and why they were virtually giving them away per-launch. Mine was 99.00 when I switched from Verizon- who doesn't have any 5G where I live yet.
 

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Always on lock screen will use more battery but it should be a very small amount. The issue I see now with the always on display is that the lock screen renders at 120hz when ideally it shouldn't.

I bet my replacement device will have the same issue. But since you have a regular 6, you probably won't notice that much of a difference compared to 5G turned off. The regular 6 also has different 5g modems compared to the pro, I think depending on the model, carrier unlocked or not. Yes this has always been a thing on Android, some people lose up to 5-10% overnight even when they don't use always on display. You can try putting it in airplane mode overnight or turn off data and leave it on wifi to see which is the culprit for drain.

I rooted my S4 years back to try to fight wakelocks. Some phones since have been good with it, some not. Always on display while you are sleeping should not drain 2% an hour though.
 

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So, with the the 5G turned on and always on screen, it lost 12% overnight. I'll have to turn them off one at a time and see what each does to battery life. But I think it is the 5G...
 

sze5003

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It's funny that after a factory reset the second day the battery was draining quicker than before.

I don't have as many apps installed that's for sure. I'm on wifi all day at home too.

I noticed youtube runs in the background for 3-4hrs and total usage 7-8hrs. I haven't launched YouTube except for one time after I reset the phone. So this is probably a bug too causing drain.

I'm waiting for my replacement phone now, so I won't bother finishing setting up the rest of the phone at this time. But even with the new one I get, I'm going to set it up from scratch and use sms backup and restore to restore texts/call log.

Out of all the pixels I've owned this has to be one of the buggiest launches. Much of this can be attributed to Android 12 coming out brand new at the same time with a lot of changes.
 

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A friend with a pixel 3 said android 12 on his was pretty buggy, too. They'll get it sorted out after a couple of updates. I saw that they've already patched something on Verizon's phones.
 

MrSquished

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There are quite a few people on Reddit and Android Central saying the battery life is far better than their 4XL. Not as spectacular as they'd hoped, but now it's easily a full day for them.

Definitely got some wakelock issues, the two of us.
 

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Yea wakelocks service and mobile network data drain is high even after a factory reset. Hopefully they can fix this with some software updates but if it's crappy modems and a byproduct of the tensor chip having exynos components, I don't think they will be able to do much.

Today I've been off charger since 7am and it's 3pm now, I'm at 48% left with about 2hrs 25min of screen time total.
 

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My battery was quite good today. I took it off the charger at 90%, I had close to 4 hours of SOT and was on the phone (data call with Viber) and still had just over 40% left late this evening when I put it back on the charger. I downloaded quite a bit of stuff - a gig of offline google maps and an entire library of music from Spotify (for offline listening, so quite a few GB). I was on WiFi most of the day, but of course always playing music while on an hour of dog walks and ran a few errands.
 

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I turned the always on lock screen off and it definitely made a difference. Only used 2% battery last night compared to 12%.
 

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Finally got my Pro white 256gb with the pixel buds for free. Estimated Dec 27 which is fine with me I guess. Apparently others for in earlier.
 

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Was away from wi-fi and the phone showed 4-5 bars of 5G so I ran a speed test. 1.2 Mbs on T-Mobile. Really pathetic. I've had people tell me that in a lot of places, 4G is faster than 5G on T-Mobile. I forgot to test 4G speed before I left but I'll do it tomorrow.

Edit- tried the speed test a few miles away on a different tower and it was getting 100Mbs. The 5G icon in the top bar had 2 small letters next to the 5G which I couldn't read, lol, old eyes. I do wonder if there are different 5G speeds based on how new the towers are, etc.
 
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I've got the sorta sunny and a white pixel 6 pro sitting at home, trying to decide if I care more about the color or having more space. I'm sure I could manage with 128gb and the sorta sunny color definitely looks a bit better than the white one which is kind of boring looking. Really wish google would stop being so shitty with the colors, feels like every year the smaller phone has much better colors, the XL versions get stuck with white and black and a special color that you can only get in the smallest capacity size.
 

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Was away from wi-fi and the phone showed 4-5 bars of 5G so I ran a speed test. 1.2 Mbs on T-Mobile. Really pathetic. I've had people tell me that in a lot of places, 4G is faster than 5G on T-Mobile. I forgot to test 4G speed before I left but I'll do it tomorrow.

Edit- tried the speed test a few miles away on a different tower and it was getting 100Mbs. The 5G icon in the top bar had 2 small letters next to the 5G which I couldn't read, lol, old eyes. I do wonder if there are different 5G speeds based on how new the towers are, etc.
There's 5G and 5G UC. UC is ultra capacity or fastest speed you can get. I have metropcs for service but it's basically T mobile anyway.
 

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I upgraded from my Note 20 Ultra to the Pixel 6 Pro. My Note 20 Ultra is still a great phone and I definitely didn't need an upgrade, but I'm a Pixel phone fan and was really hoping to be able to switch back to a Pixel. However after a week and a half, I decided to return the Pixel and go back to my Note.

It really came down to the optical fingerprint reader in the Pixel. This thing is just not good and far slower and inferior to the ultrasonic reader in the Note I came from. I've been having way too many issues unlocking my phone to the point the PIN code comes up and I have to use that instead. I know Google was trying to keep the price down, but I think this wasn't a good place to cut a corner.

What would have been amazing is if Google differentiate the Pixel from other flagship phones by actually keeping the rear fingerprint reader. If the camera bumps are going to be so massive, I think I can tolerate the body of the phone being an extra millimeter or two thicker.

I saw some other issues, but I fully expect these to be ironed out in the next few months. But that is another thing about Google hardware is it always needs about 2 or 3 months of updates out of the box to address issues.
  • Refresh rate seems buggy. Never goes down below 60 Hz and runs at 120 Hz on the AOD screen.
  • Phone runs hot doing basic tasks, think some Tensor optimizations are needed.
  • Android 12 Pixel Launcher really sucks bad. But a third party launcher fixes that.
  • Google Assistant decided to randomly call someone one night. Last person on Earth I'd ever want to call too. Cool, cool. I almost smashed my phone with a brick. Turns out that was a known bug, but I just read a fix is rolling out for that now.
Despite returning the phone, I am excited about where Google is heading. And this Pixel 6 is really a new generation of completely Google phones and I am hopefully by the third generation, aka Pixel 8, we should have something really amazing. But please don't do another optical fingerprint reader on a phone with "Pro" in the name.
 

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There's 5G and 5G UC. UC is ultra capacity or fastest speed you can get. I have metropcs for service but it's basically T mobile anyway.
Yep, UC is what it says... I did get over 100Mbs at one location where it had 4 bars of 5G UC. But it is all over the place. 2 miles from there is where it had 4 bars of 5G (not UC) showing and only 1.2 Mbs. Seems like the FCC is letting the phone companies call anything they want 5G.
 

MrSquished

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Verizon has ultra wideband for their faster 5g, which is very limited in range due to being on such high frequencies, and possibly the tech itself. I got over 600Mbps on the street outside a bar on the LES in Manhattan on 5g UW.
 

MrSquished

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Reading reddit posts and posts on AC, it seems half the people are very happy with the fingerprint sensor like myself, very accurate, often faster than it was expected to be, but could be faster overall - and then the other half of folks who say it barely works. It's either all hot or all cold. And there are those who say it's not just because it is an optical sensor, there are other phones that use optical sensors that are very reliable and fast.

Hardware defect? Software issue? I dunno. All I know is that is wacky how it's either great to good or total crap like a 50/50 split.
 

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Reading reddit posts and posts on AC, it seems half the people are very happy with the fingerprint sensor like myself, very accurate, often faster than it was expected to be, but could be faster overall - and then the other half of folks who say it barely works. It's either all hot or all cold. And there are those who say it's not just because it is an optical sensor, there are other phones that use optical sensors that are very reliable and fast.

Hardware defect? Software issue? I dunno. All I know is that is wacky how it's either great to good or total crap like a 50/50 split.
Mine I would say is 50/50. Sometimes it works the first time reliably but if I'm in a rush or I pick up the phone quickly to unlock, about half the time it doesn't recognize my fingerprint.
 

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Mine I would say is 50/50. Sometimes it works the first time reliably but if I'm in a rush or I pick up the phone quickly to unlock, about half the time it doesn't recognize my fingerprint.
Honestly, I can put my PIN in faster than the FP reader works most of the time. Is there a reason they can't do facial recognition- security concerns?
 

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Honestly, I can put my PIN in faster than the FP reader works most of the time. Is there a reason they can't do facial recognition- security concerns?
There was an article stating it may be possible to add it via a feature drop update. But that all depends if they can pull off measuring facial depth using the single front facing camera and the tensor chip with AI/ML processing.

The 4xl and 3xl for example had IR cameras as well in the front so that was used for face unlock.
 

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Not sure what happened but my microphone stopped working. People can only hear me if I put it on speaker phone.

Google assistant also can't hear me so yea not sure what happened but it was working yesterday.