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The media is not going to listen to the government. The best any government has been able to do is block a channel; whenever they have done this it has not been because they were airing something the government did no like but because it was not true. The fake news of Musharraf's death almost caused the stock market to crash.

The Pakistani media is more free than America's.

Yeah, it's so free that apparently the government can shut down an entire channel for the hell of it. Wow.
 

chucky2

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There's actually channels that are pro-terrorist? I'm not talking, going after a terrorist/bad guy and accidentally killing a civilian, I'm talking, a channel that is pro-blowmyselfupinacrowdedciviliancentertotryandincitetensionandviolence.

You're wanting a channel to feed that policy? Interesting....
 

chucky2

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That's not a CIA spy, that's an Undocumented Helper. We've got Millions of them here in the States, according to your side on here, they're just doing the jobs none of us here want to do....funny, looks like it's the same where you're at too.

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I've heard they've banned all the pro-alQaeeda channels in the USA too... just for the hell of it.

WTF is a "pro-alQaeda channel'?

What you've described going on in Pakistan is the complete opposite of freedom of speech, the press, or non-censorship. Not surprising since Pakistan is basically a failed state.
 

Chaotic42

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I've heard they've banned all the pro-alQaeeda channels in the USA too... just for the hell of it.

I don't think we have any pro-al-Qaeda channels in the US. They aren't very popular here.

As for Pakistan, I say we get the hell out of the area and let everyone over there do what they're going to do. We should use Big Stick Diplomacy. We leave all of you alone. If we get attacked, we wipe that country off the face of the earth.

It would be cheaper to take all of that money and figure out how to make batteries out of whatever resources we have and build a bunch of nuclear power plants. Plus we wouldn't have to deal with shit like this.
 

The Green Bean

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I don't think we have any pro-al-Qaeda channels in the US. They aren't very popular here.

As for Pakistan, I say we get the hell out of the area and let everyone over there do what they're going to do. We should use Big Stick Diplomacy. We leave all of you alone. If we get attacked, we wipe that country off the face of the earth.

It would be cheaper to take all of that money and figure out how to make batteries out of whatever resources we have and build a bunch of nuclear power plants. Plus we wouldn't have to deal with shit like this.

The problem with wiping us off the map is that you're going to lose half your army and half your allies. We might also be able to nuke enough of your cities to make you think twice before doing anything stupid.
 

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The problem with wiping us off the map is that you're going to lose half your army and half your allies. We might also be able to nuke enough of your cities to make you think twice before doing anything stupid.

I seriously doubt you have anything in your ICBM arsenal thats more than a donkey with a few D cell rocket engines strapped to it.

You're forgetting the US has the most advanced AWACS/Missile shield in the world, we could probably shoot the thing down in a matter of minutes.

Not to mention Israel and India would probably have used that as an excuse to flatten you by then.
 

Nebor

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I seriously doubt you have anything in your ICBM arsenal thats more than a donkey with a few D cell rocket engines strapped to it.

You're forgetting the US has the most advanced AWACS/Missile shield in the world, we could probably shoot the thing down in a matter of minutes.

Not to mention Israel and India would probably have used that as an excuse to flatten you by then.

The idea that Pakistan could engage the United States in a nuclear exchange is laughable. Their delivery technology isn't even as good as ours was 50 years ago. There's ONE submarine sitting 200 miles off the coast of Pakistan that could level every city, military compound and hideout in the country in minutes.

But that's all crazy talk. We're not having a nuclear war with Pakistan. Pakistan is going to give our man back and then go back to doing a half-assed job of pursuing terrorists in their western territories.
 

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The idea that Pakistan could engage the United States in a nuclear exchange is laughable. Their delivery technology isn't even as good as ours was 50 years ago. There's ONE submarine sitting 200 miles off the coast of Pakistan that could level every city, military compound and hideout in the country in minutes.

But that's all crazy talk. We're not having a nuclear war with Pakistan. Pakistan is going to give our man back and then go back to doing a half-assed job of pursuing terrorists in their western territories.

Not to mention the carrier groups a day or two away, lol.
 

Chaotic42

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The problem with wiping us off the map is that you're going to lose half your army and half your allies. We might also be able to nuke enough of your cities to make you think twice before doing anything stupid.

I didn't mean Pakistan, I meant anyone who messes with us. Sorry if that wasn't clear. Unless you're reading tea leaves and feeling ballsy...

None of us care about Pakistan. What you do is your own business as far as I'm concerned.
 
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K1052

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The problem with wiping us off the map is that you're going to lose half your army and half your allies. We might also be able to nuke enough of your cities to make you think twice before doing anything stupid.

You realize that the US could theoretically vaporize every major city and military installation in Pakistan in less than 15 minutes time right?

More likely we'll just end up ignoring your ignorant and backwards country while doing a lot of business with India.
 

The Green Bean

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You realize that the US could theoretically vaporize every major city and military installation in Pakistan in less than 15 minutes time right?

More likely we'll just end up ignoring your ignorant and backwards country while doing a lot of business with India.

Yea we should really tell you to fuck off and let your army rot in Afghanistan. You're causing us more harm than good.
 

K1052

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Yea we should really tell you to fuck off and let your army rot in Afghanistan. You're causing us more harm than good.

We have these things called "airplanes". Surely seeing a giant metal beast soar through the sky would be incredible for you but it's a reality for us.
 

The Green Bean

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Your gov wont do that, they like the billions we give them way too much

They have to or they'll get overthrown soon. And if they last till the next election (2013), the new government is guaranteed to be anti-American. I'm going to vote for Imran Khan's party and most of the educated youth will probably do the same.
 

The Green Bean

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The idea that Pakistan could engage the United States in a nuclear exchange is laughable. Their delivery technology isn't even as good as ours was 50 years ago. There's ONE submarine sitting 200 miles off the coast of Pakistan that could level every city, military compound and hideout in the country in minutes.

But that's all crazy talk. We're not having a nuclear war with Pakistan. Pakistan is going to give our man back and then go back to doing a half-assed job of pursuing terrorists in their western territories.

You do realize that our nuclear program is going through a rapid-development phase. India is a threat but they're not stupid enough to do something that will lead to a nuclear exchange. American on the other hand is. Never underestimate your enemy--that is why you are losing in Afghanistan.
 

The Green Bean

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I didn't mean Pakistan, I meant anyone who messes with us. Sorry if that wasn't clear. Unless you're reading tea leaves and feeling ballsy...

None of us care about Pakistan. What you do is your own business as far as I'm concerned.

It's your spy that got caught and he has been suspected of helping the Taliban and you have the nerves to suggest it's not us--it's you.
 

The Green Bean

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I seriously doubt you have anything in your ICBM arsenal thats more than a donkey with a few D cell rocket engines strapped to it.

You're forgetting the US has the most advanced AWACS/Missile shield in the world, we could probably shoot the thing down in a matter of minutes.

Not to mention Israel and India would probably have used that as an excuse to flatten you by then.

You are underestimating us--how many times has that happened in history :roll;

We have more than enough nukes to flatten Israel and India at once. And you must not forget that if it comes down to war, we will transfer all our technology (and remaining materials) to Iran and the Taliban. You can't win.
 

The Green Bean

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Many developments today.

1) US spies leave Pakistan in fear:
http://tribune.com.pk/story/124965/...-davis-arrest-us-operatives-leaving-pakistan/

I salute India for their new strict visa laws against foreigners. Pakistan should do the same. No re-entry within 180 days of leaving... Not many American tourists come here anyways. Most are spies.

2) American spies and collaborators are being round up by law enforcement agencies:
http://www.dawn.com/2011/02/28/inve...d-in-davis%E2%80%99-case-45-arrested.html

A bold step to ensure peace. :)

3) A possible solution? The victim's family offer to free Davis in exchange for Dr. Aafia:
http://tribune.com.pk/story/125093/raymond-davis-for-aafia-siddiqui/
 

Zargon

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do you have to work very hard to destroy your credibility?

for the record, I can watch al-jazeera on my satelite dish, I get 2-3 versions of their stations. but I dont watch them.

so you are arresting people based on them being in the contacts on davis cell phone?

glad I dont live there. would hate to have a friend do something stupid that means I get arrested for him having my cell phone #
 

The Green Bean

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glad I dont live there. would hate to have a friend do something stupid that means I get arrested for him having my cell phone #

It's not doing something stupid. It's in connection with a foreign spy who has alleged links to AlQaeeda. If it were in your country, they would all have been sent to Guantanamo. Glad I don't live there.