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Nebor

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You are blind. Your media can accuse the ISI of ties with the Taliban without any proof and you believe them. When one of your spies is caught rand-handed, everyone else is stupid. Then you call our region "brainwashed."

We're not saying you thinking him a spy is stupid. We're saying you not handing him over is doing nothing but hurting your country. That's stupid. We'll get him back, one way or another.
 

iGas

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We're not saying you thinking him a spy is stupid. We're saying you not handing him over is doing nothing but hurting your country. That's stupid. We'll get him back, one way or another.
Are you advocating that a Democratic/Free Country such as America should defend and free a murderer while trample on the democracy that it so fond of?

Hypocrisy is at its best.

IMHO, Davis is nothing less than a rogue mercenary/killer that is being used by the CIA, or put in place as a dangle/bait.
 
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Nebor

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Are you advocating that a Democratic/Free Country such as America should defend and free a murderer while trample on the democracy that it so fond of?

Hypocrisy is at its best.

IMHO, Davis is nothing less than a rogue mercenary/killer that is being used by the CIA, or put in place as a dangle/bait.

Be that as it may, I'd trade the lives of everyone in Pakistan to get him back home safe.
 

iGas

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I wonder what the American public would do, if they label Davis as a terrorist and utilize the American counter-terrorism law & torture?
 

werepossum

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And nothing of value would be lost.
I'm tempted to agree, especially with TGB as a shining example of Pakistan. But I'd hate to see the death of thousands, if not millions, of people whose only crime is being born into the Earth's anus and surrounded with animals in man form. (Out of courtesy to a user here tagged as "manimal" I won't use that term as I usually do for animals with the outward semblance and nothing more of humans.)
 

Zargon

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Are you advocating that a Democratic/Free Country such as America should defend and free a murderer while trample on the democracy that it so fond of?

Hypocrisy is at its best.

IMHO, Davis is nothing less than a rogue mercenary/killer that is being used by the CIA, or put in place as a dangle/bait.

IYHO.

for all we know he is a key CIA asset and a true patriot.


I certainly am not surprised they were talking to know taliban, as thats the point of espionage.

spys are by definition breaking laws all over the place,its their job.

how naive are some of you? by definition a good spy/operative is a 'terrorist' to the gov he is sying on :rolleyes:
 
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FDF12389

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IYHO.
for all we know he is a key CIA asset and a true patriot.

While he may be a patriot, he still broke the law, and I doubt he is a key asset. If he were any good at his job we wouldn't know he is a spy.
 
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iGas

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IYHO.

for all we know he is a key CIA asset and a true patriot.


I certainly am not surprised they were talking to know taliban, as thats the point of espionage.

spys are by definition breaking laws all over the place,its their job.

how naive are some of you? by definition a good spy/operative is a 'terrorist' to the gov he is sying on :rolleyes:
Former Blackwater employee != patriot
 

iGas

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true.

but seriously, the surprise that a spy shot some counter-intel agents is retarded. what do you guys think goes on? this is RL not an episode of chuck
Hence it is fair game for the Afghan to detain and question the murder. America is lucky enough that they gave the CIA a concession by letting 2 American that ran over an innocent bystander.

This isn't a computer game where you can cheat & respawn.
 

Zargon

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Hence it is fair game for the Afghan to detain and question the murder. America is lucky enough that they gave the CIA a concession by letting 2 American that ran over an innocent bystander.

This isn't a computer game where you can cheat & respawn.

hence why the gov should be trying to strong arm and get him back, they owe him
 

BudAshes

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The Russian's are saying Davis was part of Task Force 373. Allegedly he was responsible for providing Nuclear/ Biological weapons to Al-Qaida so that the Americans could blame Pakistan. This would allow America to invade Pakistan.



http://www.britainnews.net/story/74...nuclear-bomb-material-to-Al-Qaeda-says-report

Every day that passes and with every new revelation, we realize that something much more complex has been brewing. It looks like the ISI won here; if they were trailing Davis... they got what they wanted.

What would happen if there is open warfare? IF Pakistan used nuclear weapons against American military targets, would the Americans launch ICBMs against our cities? Just this thought sends a chill down my spine. There has been talk of war against the USA before, especially after 9/11 when the army studied its options to counter a possible invasion. There were more talks of war after the drone attacks skirmishes between the Americans and Pakistani soldiers on the Afghan border.

Surely, this would not be like invading Afghanistan, Iraq or even Iran. I believe (and hope) it's not going to happen but this could be WW3.

This is madness. Seriously, you don't actually think the U.S. is that smart?
 

Nebor

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Former Blackwater employee != patriot

I know plenty of patriots that left active duty military service and went to work for Blackwater (Xe.) They served their country in the military, and the continued to serve (at a much higher pay rate) with a security contractor for various departments and agencies.
 

Nebor

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This is madness. Seriously, you don't actually think the U.S. is that smart?

For real. We accidentally invaded Iraq because we couldn't tell Saddam was bluffing. We're not exactly at the cutting edge of intel operations.
 

The Green Bean

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An interesting read about the USA and its media censorship:

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/02/21/nyt/index.html

I pity you fools who believe your newspapers. I also pity the idiots who point at Chinese censorship.

And as for Davis, he refused to sign a charge sheet still claiming he is a diplomat. The longer the Americans take to accept that Davis is not a diplomat the worse the outcome of the entire incident is going to be.
 

Nebor

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An interesting read about the USA and its media censorship:

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/02/21/nyt/index.html

I pity you fools who believe your newspapers. I also pity the idiots who point at Chinese censorship.

And as for Davis, he refused to sign a charge sheet still claiming he is a diplomat. The longer the Americans take to accept that Davis is not a diplomat the worse the outcome of the entire incident is going to be.

More like the longer you hang onto our diplomat, the worse this situation gets for everyone involved.

I wonder if any of the major news networks are going to pick up the story of a squadron of F-22 fighters being reassigned to Al Udeid AFB, Qatar next week...
 

The Green Bean

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More like the longer you hang onto our diplomat, the worse this situation gets for everyone involved.

I wonder if any of the major news networks are going to pick up the story of a squadron of F-22 fighters being reassigned to Al Udeid AFB, Qatar next week...

You would go to war over a murderer? That's pathetic.

edit: he's not a diplomat. Everyone acknowledges that now. How can a CIA spy be a diplomat?
 
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The Green Bean

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I'm glad Pakistan never censors their media at all!

The media is not going to listen to the government. The best any government has been able to do is block a channel; whenever they have done this it has not been because they were airing something the government did no like but because it was not true. The fake news of Musharraf's death almost caused the stock market to crash.

The Pakistani media is more free than America's.
 

chucky2

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The Pakistani media isn't brainwashed and skewed? Your own link was sensationalist. Your delusion about your media is just that: A delusion.
 
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An interesting read about the USA and its media censorship:

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/02/21/nyt/index.html

I pity you fools who believe your newspapers. I also pity the idiots who point at Chinese censorship.

And as for Davis, he refused to sign a charge sheet still claiming he is a diplomat. The longer the Americans take to accept that Davis is not a diplomat the worse the outcome of the entire incident is going to be.

That's not forced censorship at all. It seems that you have no concept of what censorship is at all. You seem to have no idea of what has historically gone on and through various court cases with regard to these issues.