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The Green Bean

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The Russian's are saying Davis was part of Task Force 373. Allegedly he was responsible for providing Nuclear/ Biological weapons to Al-Qaida so that the Americans could blame Pakistan. This would allow America to invade Pakistan.

Double murder-accused US official Raymond Davis has been found in possession of top-secret CIA documents, which point to him or the feared American Task Force 373 (TF373) operating in the region, providing Al-Qaeda terrorists with "nuclear fissile material" and "biological agents," according to a report.

Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) is warning that the situation on the sub-continent has turned "grave" as it appears that open warfare is about to break out between Pakistan and the United States, The European Union Times reports.

The SVR warned in its report that the apprehension of 36-year-old Davis, who shot dead two Pakistani men in Lahore last month, had fuelled this crisis.

According to the report, the combat skills exhibited by Davis, along with documentation taken from him after his arrest, prove that he is a member of US' TF373 black operations unit currently operating in the Afghan War Theatre and Pakistan's tribal areas, the paper said.

While the US insists that Davis is one of their diplomats, and the two men he killed were robbers, Pakistan says that the duo were ISI agents sent to follow him after it was discovered that he had been making contact with al Qaeda, after his cell phone was tracked to the Waziristan tribal area bordering Afghanistan, the paper said.

The most ominous point in this SVR report is "Pakistan's ISI stating that top-secret CIA documents found in Davis's possession point to his, and/or TF373, providing to al Qaeda terrorists "nuclear fissile material" and "biological agents", which they claim are to be used against the United States itself in order to ignite an all-out war in order to re-establish the West's hegemony over a Global economy that is warned is just months away from collapse," the paper added. (ANI)

http://www.britainnews.net/story/74...nuclear-bomb-material-to-Al-Qaeda-says-report

Every day that passes and with every new revelation, we realize that something much more complex has been brewing. It looks like the ISI won here; if they were trailing Davis... they got what they wanted.

What would happen if there is open warfare? IF Pakistan used nuclear weapons against American military targets, would the Americans launch ICBMs against our cities? Just this thought sends a chill down my spine. There has been talk of war against the USA before, especially after 9/11 when the army studied its options to counter a possible invasion. There were more talks of war after the drone attacks skirmishes between the Americans and Pakistani soldiers on the Afghan border.

Surely, this would not be like invading Afghanistan, Iraq or even Iran. I believe (and hope) it's not going to happen but this could be WW3.
 
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As if a CIA operative would be carrying paperwork describing his mission.

I don't see a reason to go to war with Pakistan now. Their government is fairly stable (moreso than it's been in the past decade) and pro-American. They allow us to drop bombs inside Pakistan and maneuver small numbers of ground forces in Waziristan.

I'm going to say this story is likely FUD. But if it's not, give me your address TGB and I'll stop by when I'm in your neighborhood. :D
 

werepossum

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The Russian's are saying Davis was part of Task Force 373. Allegedly he was responsible for providing Nuclear/ Biological weapons to Al-Qaida so that the Americans could blame Pakistan. This would allow America to invade Pakistan.



http://www.britainnews.net/story/74...nuclear-bomb-material-to-Al-Qaeda-says-report

Every day that passes and with every new revelation, we realize that something much more complex has been brewing. It looks like the ISI won here; if they were trailing Davis... they got what they wanted.

What would happen if there is open warfare? IF Pakistan used nuclear weapons against American military targets, would the Americans launch ICBMs against our cities? Just this thought sends a chill down my spine. There has been talk of war against the USA before, especially after 9/11 when the army studied its options to counter a possible invasion. There were more talks of war after the drone attacks skirmishes between the Americans and Pakistani soldiers on the Afghan border.

Surely, this would not be like invading Afghanistan, Iraq or even Iran. I believe (and hope) it's not going to happen but this could be WW3.

Pakistan is a nuclear power. If it uses a nuclear weapon against US targets, it will cease to exist.
 

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The Russian's are saying Davis was part of Task Force 373. Allegedly he was responsible for providing Nuclear/ Biological weapons to Al-Qaida so that the Americans could blame Pakistan. This would allow America to invade Pakistan.



http://www.britainnews.net/story/74...nuclear-bomb-material-to-Al-Qaeda-says-report

Every day that passes and with every new revelation, we realize that something much more complex has been brewing. It looks like the ISI won here; if they were trailing Davis... they got what they wanted.

What would happen if there is open warfare? IF Pakistan used nuclear weapons against American military targets, would the Americans launch ICBMs against our cities? Just this thought sends a chill down my spine. There has been talk of war against the USA before, especially after 9/11 when the army studied its options to counter a possible invasion. There were more talks of war after the drone attacks skirmishes between the Americans and Pakistani soldiers on the Afghan border.

Surely, this would not be like invading Afghanistan, Iraq or even Iran. I believe (and hope) it's not going to happen but this could be WW3.

seriously? I 'll believe that when my shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert


taking the russians word on this is uber hilarious, a country who will do ANYTHING to try and stay relevant and on the world stage as they again cant even keep minor control of things inside their own country. wait, that sounds alot like other countries in the thread!!!
 

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seriously? I 'll believe that when my shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert


taking the russians word on this is uber hilarious, a country who will do ANYTHING to try and stay relevant and on the world stage as they again cant even keep minor control of things inside their own country. wait, that sounds alot like other countries in the thread!!!

It has to be true, after all it was posted on the intarweb!!
 

iGas

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seriously? I 'll believe that when my shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert


taking the russians word on this is uber hilarious, a country who will do ANYTHING to try and stay relevant and on the world stage as they again cant even keep minor control of things inside their own country. wait, that sounds alot like other countries in the thread!!!
Both sides are spinning this story, and IMHO from past experience my believe is the Pakistani caught the American red handed. Spying on a country that are friendly to you is a common thing but when the media getting a hold of it is only mean that shame and sloppy work on the country that is doing th spying.

The implication here is that the American is in something really big & bad, because the spies risks identification/blown cover by killing people in broad day light in front of witnesses.

My speculation is that the American is trying to incite revolt or coup as it has been done many times in the past by the CIA.
 

iGas

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Is Raymond Davis is his real name, or he have some other name that he goes by?
 

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As if a CIA operative would be carrying paperwork describing his mission.

I don't see a reason to go to war with Pakistan now. Their government is fairly stable (moreso than it's been in the past decade) and pro-American. They allow us to drop bombs inside Pakistan and maneuver small numbers of ground forces in Waziristan.

I'm going to say this story is likely FUD. But if it's not, give me your address TGB and I'll stop by when I'm in your neighborhood. :D
Caught red handed, by the pictures (important installations) in his camera as describe in this video.

Pictures taken from the camera of Raymond Davis
 

iGas

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Give the spies a medal, and denial justice for the innocent people that they killed. Way to go America.

Shumaila's message (Raymond Davis' victim Faheem's wife before her disappointed death)

American spy known as Raymond Allen Davis killed 2 Pakistanis while another speedy American vehicle ran over another innocent Pakistani Ibad ur Rehman during the same incident in Lahore.

The families of these martyred boys were being threatened, but the Pakistani nation's gigantic support was with the families & against Raymond Davis. Shumaila, wife of one victim Faheem, got extremely disappointed when she came to know how Raymond is being taken care of. When reports came that he might be freed, Shumaila attempted suicide, was rushed to hospital but couldn't survive.

Will Raymond be returned to America, without at-least getting Dr. Aafia in return? Is Pakistani Muslim's blood that cheap? Visit, subscribe & spread :
 

iGas

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Arrested U.S. official is actually CIA contractor
-- MSNBC

Raymond Allen Davis, 36, had been working as a CIA security contractor and living in a Lahore safe house, according to former and current U.S. officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to talk publicly about the incident.

Davis, a former Special Forces soldier who left the military in 2003, shot the men in what he described as an attempted armed robbery in the eastern city of Lahore as they approached him on a motorcycle. A third Pakistani, a bystander, died when a car rushing to help Davis struck him. Davis was carrying a Glock handgun, a pocket telescope and papers with different identifications.

Further inflaming tensions, the wife of one of the men Davis shot committed suicide. She had said she feared her husband's killer would be freed without trial.

Military records show Davis, a Virginia native, served a decade in the Army, including five years with the 3rd Special Forces Group in Fort Bragg, N.C., home to the Green Berets.

Davis also worked for security contractor Blackwater Worldwide, now known as Xe Services.

Davis and his wife run a Las Vegas-registered company called Hyperion Protective Services. The address for its headquarters is a mailbox at a UPS store in a strip mall. The truth about Davis' true employer briefly slipped out after a local television reporter in Colorado called his wife.

In a story posted on the website of Denver's 9News, the wife provided the name and number of a "CIA spokesperson" in Washington, D.C. But the story was quickly taken down, edited and then reposted with new language eliminating any reference to the CIA...

Watan Radio: Nizam e Cedit, Zaid Hamid on Raymond Davis case

This video claimed that Davis uses hollow point bullets.

The Daily claimed that the American backup SUV that ran over a bystander had stolen license plate, second in command of the CIA in Pakistan (Jonathan Banks is the boss), and phone records shown that he was in contact with Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (Taliban operative).

The US vehicle that killed motorcyclist Rehman carried a fake number plate, sources told Geo News. Investigations have revealed that the car number was actually registered in the name of Sufi Munawwar Hussain, a resident of Sahiwal district in Punjab province.[44] Pakistani officials believe the vehicle's occupants were also CIA because they came from the same suburban house where Davis lived and were heavily armed. The US refused Pakistani demands to interrogate the two men and the men have left the country. ABC News reported that the men had the same diplomatic visa as Davis.[45]...

It has been reported that CIA drone attacks in Waziristan, which had been occurring at the average rate of two to three per week since 2008, stopped after Raymond Davis was arrested. There were no reported drone attacks from January 23, four days before the Raymond Davis incident, until 21st February.[69] Some articles speculate as to possible relation between the arrest and the cessation of the attacks.[70][71]

Pakistani authorities have leaked to the media that they knew Davis was in touch with the "Pakistani Taliban"(TTP). A police officer confirmed that "his phone records clearly show he was in contact with Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, for what reason we can only speculate," referring to a terrorist group with close links to the Pakistani Taliban.[14][72]

Pakistani news report have said that Davis was second-in-command to Jonathan Banks, the former station chief of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in Islamabad, who left Pakistan after his cover was blown. The sources said that Davis could be called the deputy station chief of the CIA in Pakistan, or the acting station chief.
 
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Yes.

Send our diplomat home.

I don't see the problem with him being a CIA security contractor, hes basically a body guard for our people over there. Frankly I would be expecting him (and wanting him) to be carrying a lot more than what he was.

He functioned exactly like how he should have, the primary objective is your man, everything else is secondary. How else do you think blackwater guards are so effective?
 

iGas

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Yes.

Send our "diplomat" home.
You mean spy and a murderer?

Fat chance buddy. He might enjoy some immunity if the American government willing to pay big bucks for his silence, however it is unlikely now because the media got a hold of the story.

IMHO, he is safer for now in the hands of the Pakistanis, because the American authority might silence him with a few bullets of their own.
 

iGas

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I don't see the problem with him being a CIA security contractor, hes basically a body guard for our people over there. Frankly I would be expecting him (and wanting him) to be carrying a lot more than what he was.

He functioned exactly like how he should have, the primary objective is your man, everything else is secondary. How else do you think blackwater guards are so effective?
Why would a security contractor required fake identification papers and stolen license plate?

His camera photos shown that he have been taken pictures and coordinate of dozens of Pakistani military & government installations?
 

Nebor

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You mean spy and a murderer?

Fat chance buddy. He might enjoy some immunity if the American government willing to pay big bucks for his silence, however it is unlikely now because the media got a hold of the story.

IMHO, he is safer for now in the hands of the Pakistanis, because the American authority might silence him with a few bullets of their own.

Hahahaha. You're crazy. Just give him back so he can get back home to his wife and then get back on assignment.
 

iGas

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Hahahaha. You're crazy. Just give him back so he can get back home to his wife and then get back on assignment.
What assignment?

His days is over because he screwed up and blown cover.

Why am I crazy?
If American can kill their own president, they surely can snuff a pawn.
 
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What assignment?

His days is over because he screwed up and blown cover.

Why am I crazy?
If American can kill their own president, they surely can snuff a pawn.

His days aren't over. You're not familiar with how the system works.
 

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The Russian's are saying Davis was part of Task Force 373. Allegedly he was responsible for providing Nuclear/ Biological weapons to Al-Qaida so that the Americans could blame Pakistan. This would allow America to invade Pakistan.
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you really put the S in stupid dont you.
 

The Green Bean

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you really put the S in stupid dont you.

You are blind. Your media can accuse the ISI of ties with the Taliban without any proof and you believe them. When one of your spies is caught rand-handed, everyone else is stupid. Then you call our region "brainwashed."
 

The Green Bean

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His days aren't over. You're not familiar with how the system works.

YOU aren't similar with how the system works. Perhaps, Davis was a blessing in disguise for the government and it saved them for being overthrown. The government in power is pro-American. I hope the next government can take a stand of its own.