Getting Bored with 2600k - Need New Whipping Boy

[crashtech]

My kingdom for a nearby Microcenter!

 

[Face2Face]

Got the OS sorted and had a couple hours to test the chips. With a semi-dumpy A50 cooler I ran OCCT for at least 10 minutes to try and quickly zero in their potential. Didn't get a chance to mess with the 4770k much but this is what I got for the 4670s:

4670k #1 - 4.4Ghz@1.25V
4670k #2 - 4.5Ghz@1.25V

I'll test the 4770k tonight and see what she'll do.

Looking good :thumbsup: Hope the 4770K turns out the be the golden one..()

 

[Slomo4shO]

Seriously. I thought originally it was a pricing mistake but they've been selling it for a couple weeks at that price. Weird thing is it's cheaper than the UD3H by $40-50.

It was a price mistake but it was advertised on print so they continued to honor it until the printed promo expired.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

If I had a Micro Center near me I'd fully support them!

 

[Elfear]

Well I decided to keep one of the 4670s and sell the other two chips. Surprisingly they were all within 100Mhz of each other at the same voltage (4.4-4.5Ghz@1.25V).

Today or tomorrow I'll delid the one I'm keeping and see how it does under water. Hoping for 4.6-4.7Ghz.

 

[Face2Face]

Well I decided to keep one of the 4670s and sell the other two chips. Surprisingly they were all within 100Mhz of each other at the same voltage (4.4-4.5Ghz@1.25V).

Today or tomorrow I'll delid the one I'm keeping and see how it does under water. Hoping for 4.6-4.7Ghz.

Good luck :thumbsup: Even @ 4.6Ghz Haswell is no slouch.

 

[Arkaign]

Well I decided to keep one of the 4670s and sell the other two chips. Surprisingly they were all within 100Mhz of each other at the same voltage (4.4-4.5Ghz@1.25V).

Today or tomorrow I'll delid the one I'm keeping and see how it does under water. Hoping for 4.6-4.7Ghz.

That's been my exact experience. Given the cost, and my lack of AVX2 apps, I decided to sell them all. They were nice, but my now ancient Sandy is cooler at 5Ghz than my 4770 at 4.4, with a cheaper cooler to boot. H100 on the 4770 vs. 212+ Evo on the 2700.

De-lidding interests me with Haswell somewhat though. I've been hesitant to do it in case I don't get much improvement, then I'm stuck with something I can't resell in an honest way. Who would want a de-lidded used CPU anyway?

 

[TerryMathews]

That's been my exact experience. Given the cost, and my lack of AVX2 apps, I decided to sell them all. They were nice, but my now ancient Sandy is cooler at 5Ghz than my 4770 at 4.4, with a cheaper cooler to boot. H100 on the 4770 vs. 212+ Evo on the 2700.

De-lidding interests me with Haswell somewhat though. I've been hesitant to do it in case I don't get much improvement, then I'm stuck with something I can't resell in an honest way. Who would want a de-lidded used CPU anyway?

Any number of people, if you do it right.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Well I decided to keep one of the 4670s and sell the other two chips. Surprisingly they were all within 100Mhz of each other at the same voltage (4.4-4.5Ghz@1.25V).

Today or tomorrow I'll delid the one I'm keeping and see how it does under water. Hoping for 4.6-4.7Ghz.

You should test max multi before you decide!

You're already faster than your old 4.8GHz Sandy :sneaky:

Hopefully AVX picks up, I'm something like 35% faster than Sandy Bridge clock for clock in Handbrake, and that didn't even benefit greatly from AVX2/FMA3.

 

[Elfear]

You should test max multi before you decide!

You're already faster than your old 4.8GHz Sandy :sneaky:

Hopefully AVX picks up, I'm something like 35% faster than Sandy Bridge clock for clock in Handbrake, and that didn't even benefit greatly from AVX2/FMA3.

How do I test max multiplier?

 

[BallaTheFeared]

You're on water, so I'd just put in maybe 1.4v and then see which chip will boot the highest.

I'd use as much as you plan to use after you delid, outside of linpacks and stress testing programs you probably won't have too much temp but I can't say for sure my chip gives me a false sense of things really.


Chips can hit walls I believe, where the next jump might change the dynamics of the potential top end.

I think max multi will be your limit before temps are with a custom loop, possibly even voltage though I still don't know what the max safe air/water is.

Probably would game a bit, maybe Crysis 3 without vsync to get a good idea of stability without the silly linpack temps.

 

[Elfear]

You're on water, so I'd just put in maybe 1.4v and then see which chip will boot the highest.

I'd use as much as you plan to use after you delid, outside of linpacks and stress testing programs you probably won't have too much temp but I can't say for sure my chip gives me a false sense of things really.


Chips can hit walls I believe, where the next jump might change the dynamics of the potential top end.

I think max multi will be your limit before temps are with a custom loop, possibly even voltage though I still don't know what the max safe air/water is.

Probably would game a bit, maybe Crysis 3 without vsync to get a good idea of stability without the silly linpack temps.

Thanks for the info Balla. I tested the max multi for the 4670k I'm keeping and it's only 47. :\ I was hoping for more but it's about what I expected.

I decided to delid my chip to try and get the best temps possible. The vice method is super slick and took about 5 minutes.

TIM actually doesn't look too thick in my inexperienced opinion.


All cleaned up.


Bought a syringe of Cool Laboratories Liquid Ultra and some cheap paint brushes from Walmart.




I used Indigo Xtreme between the IHS and waterblock. Temps after 2hrs of Aida64.


Tested Prime95 as well and temps were about 9-10 degrees hotter. When I get time next week I'll see how high she can go.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Sucks, but at least you have a new toy and challenge.

Go for 4.8

 

[Elfear]

Sucks, but at least you have a new toy and challenge.

Go for 4.8

I'll try but I'm thinking 4.8Ghz isn't in the cards. I couldn't even boot at 4.8 before I delidded and went back to watercooling.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

What were you using for uncore and memory speeds?

 

[Elfear]

What were you using for uncore and memory speeds?

Still running stock uncore for now and memory is running at 1600Mhz. Thought about getting some faster ram but doesn't seem worth the money.

Looks like I need to do some more stability testing too. Despite running Aida64 without issue, I crashed in a few games I was playing last night. :thumbsdown:

 

[Arkaign]

Ugh. What a hassle. It gives me bad memories of the three mediocre Haswells I ran through before giving up. At least none of them were DOA, I actually had one fully DOA 3770K out of three that I tried.

 

[Arkaign]

You could always go Ivy-E and skip this quad nonsense entirely, lol.

 

[LagunaX]

I run both a lapped 2600k and delidded 3700k both at 4.8ghz.
Felt no urge at all to try/delid Haswell.

However, a soldered 6 core IB-E intrigues me.

 

[Elfear]

You could always go Ivy-E and skip this quad nonsense entirely, lol.

Thought about that. If it weren't for an aging platform, I would have gone that route. I'll wait to see what Haswell-E brings and decide whether I want to switch.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Which one did you keep, i5 or i7?

 

[Arkaign]

Which one did you keep, i5 or i7?

I think he kept on of the 4670s.

 

[Elfear]

I think he kept on of the 4670s.

:thumbsup:

Thought about keeping the 4770k but I never ended up using HT with my 2600k so decided to try an i5 for awhile.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

What clock speed are you going for, you delidded and put it in the loop right?

 

[Slomo4shO]

I am expecting a 4770k to arrive today. Lets see how it performs