Georgia Democrats to propose limitations on vasectomies for men

[davmat787]

Yes, because it is murder.

Fapping is murder to you? It shouldn't be THAT difficult. May I suggest you switch to a higher viscosity lubricant?

 

[ch33zw1z]

Yes, because it is murder.

it's not murder, it's genocide!

 

[Double Trouble]

I don't like government wasting time on stuff like this, but they're making a valid point. If we're willing to have government involved in legislating control of a woman's body, then we should be willing to have the government legislate control of a man's body as well. Goose and gander and all that stuff.

Clearly something like this will never pass, but it does make a good point.

 

[Mursilis]

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/2...limitations-on-vasectomies-for-men/?hpt=hp_c2

As members of Georgia’s House of Representatives debate whether to prohibit abortions for women more than 20 weeks pregnant, House Democrats planned to introduce their own reproductive rights plan: No more vasectomies that leave "thousands of children ... deprived of birth."

Rep. Yasmin Neal, a Democrat from the Atlanta suburb of Jonesboro, planned to introduce a bill Wednesday that would prevent men from vasectomies unless needed to avert serious injury or death.

“If we legislate women’s bodies, it’s only fair that we legislate men’s,” said Neal, who said she wanted to introduce a bill that would generate emotion and conversation the way anti-abortion bills do. “There are too many problems in the state. Why are you under the skirts of women? I’m sure there are other places to be."

I wonder how she feels about throwing pot users in prison. Where's your "legislating other people's bodies" rationale then? And how about prostitution?

 

[Mursilis]

They're trolling. If republicans want to ban abortion because it prevents babies, then theoretically we should also ban vasectomies and tube tying. The bible explicitly says this is wrong. It's even listed before the passage about how gay sex is wrong and how eating lobster is wrong. It's such a big deal that it's the first book in the bible, Genesis.

Your analogy is poor - there's a difference between procedures which prevent pregnancies, and those which terminate them.

 

[feralkid]

Dems have jumped the shark.

I for one definitely can't tell the difference between a fetus and a sperm.

No surprise, you missed the entire point of this, and hacked out, as usual.

 

[pcgeek11]

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/21/georgia-democrats-to-propose-limitations-on-vasectomies-for-men/?hpt=hp_c2

As members of Georgia’s House of Representatives debate whether to prohibit abortions for women more than 20 weeks pregnant, House Democrats planned to introduce their own reproductive rights plan: No more vasectomies that leave "thousands of children ... deprived of birth."

Rep. Yasmin Neal, a Democrat from the Atlanta suburb of Jonesboro, planned to introduce a bill Wednesday that would prevent men from vasectomies unless needed to avert serious injury or death.

“If we legislate women’s bodies, it’s only fair that we legislate men’s,” said Neal, who said she wanted to introduce a bill that would generate emotion and conversation the way anti-abortion bills do. “There are too many problems in the state. Why are you under the skirts of women? I’m sure there are other places to be."



/LOL i love it. i hope it passes. How many guys would freak out. then again most wouldn't care.

its a great way to get people to see both sides of the issue.

It is a very stupid to compare a vasectomy to an abortion. They are not even close to the same thing.

I do see where you could compare a tubectomy to a vasectomy however. I haven't heard of anyone attempting to limit Tubal ligations though. Have you?


Bitch is stupid. So are the Dems.

 

[shortylickens]

Yeah I think its hilarious the way politicians waste time with bullshit.
Fuck all the real issues, we wont be alive to worry about it.

 

[Mursilis]

Yeah I think its hilarious the way politicians waste time with bullshit.
Fuck all the real issues, we wont be alive to worry about it.

They don't ignore the real issues - they botch those as well.

 

[fskimospy]

Yeah I think its hilarious the way politicians waste time with bullshit.
Fuck all the real issues, we wont be alive to worry about it.

What are these real issues, and what would you like them to do about them? Be specific. Also, if you have an idea for what you would like to be done, can you take a quick look and see if there is legislative or executive support that is sufficient to pass it?

Once you check out those things, this will all make much more sense. I hear a constant refrain on here about politicians 'wasting time'. Generally, that's a ridiculous statement. Bills don't usually pass or not pass because people ran out of time by accident; someone has deliberately run out the clock, there isn't enough support, etc, etc.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

I wonder how she feels about throwing pot users in prison. Where's your "legislating other people's bodies" rationale then? And how about prostitution?

This.

I laugh at the "But..but...you can't legislate other people's bodies!" arguments when in fact, there are tons and tons of laws in which the government does exactly that. Drugs and prostitution anyone? I hope anyone using this argument supports legalizing drugs and prostitution everywhere, or else, they're being hypocrites.

No surprise, you missed the entire point of this, and hacked out, as usual.

What exactly is the point, may I ask? Without commenting on abortion itself, anyone should be able to see the obvious and huge difference between preventing pregnany and terminating one. A vascetomy is more along the lines of a tubal ligation, not an abortion. The whole "you can't legislate someone's body" is NOT a valid point, as previously pointed out. Yasmin Neal is a retard.

 

[Griffinhart]

So, Dems are doing this to protest placing a 20 week window on abortions? I personally think a 20 week windows is a reasonable limit. And that has nothing to do with religion. I simply think that once a fetus reaches the point where they become viable outside of the womb, limitations should be put in place. Given that it is possible for Preterm babies to survive, AND grow to be healthy adults after 21 weeks, 20 weeks is very reasonable.

 

[ShawnD1]

No, this is a completely legitimate tactic to shed light as to what horrible shitstain subhuman garbage republicans are. It's getting national attention, isn't it? What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

You'd think so, but most people will not see this as trolling. It's too subtle.

Even the most obvious jokes are not detected.
too stupid for satire, how the media branded me as racist
Watch the video in that link and see if you think it looks like an obvious joke.

Also, remember this picture?

Even with the article in that magazine explicitly stating why everything in that picture is wrong, people were still offended. I know you think "retarded" means IQ below 70, but it really means IQ below 110. Most people are retarded. The average is so much worse than anyone pictures it.

 

[QuantumPion]

Wait, so does this law only apply to hermaphrodite mutants whose sperm is actually composed of fertilized zygotes with 46 chromosomes?

 

[thecoolnessrune]

You'd think so, but most people will not see this as trolling. It's too subtle.

Even the most obvious jokes are not detected.
too stupid for satire, how the media branded me as racist
Watch the video in that link and see if you think it looks like an obvious joke.

Also, remember this picture?

Even with the article in that magazine explicitly stating why everything in that picture is wrong, people were still offended. I know you think "retarded" means IQ below 70, but it really means IQ below 110. Most people are retarded. The average is so much worse than anyone pictures it.

I don't know about you, but I don't prefer to pay my representatives for their satire.

 

[ichy]

I laugh at the "But..but...you can't legislate other people's bodies!" arguments when in fact, there are tons and tons of laws in which the government does exactly that. Drugs and prostitution anyone? I hope anyone using this argument supports legalizing drugs and prostitution everywhere, or else, they're being hypocrites.

While you certainly CAN legislate what people do with their bodies the track record of such laws has been less than great. Look at what a spectacular failure the War on Drugs has been.

 

[fskimospy]

I laugh at the "But..but...you can't legislate other people's bodies!" arguments when in fact, there are tons and tons of laws in which the government does exactly that. Drugs and prostitution anyone? I hope anyone using this argument supports legalizing drugs and prostitution everywhere, or else, they're being hypocrites.

Hopefully this will lead more people to support the legalization of all drugs and prostitution!

 

[IndyColtsFan]

While you certainly CAN legislate what people do with their bodies the track record of such laws has been less than great. Look at what a spectacular failure the War on Drugs has been.

I'm not denying that.

Hopefully this will lead more people to support the legalization of all drugs and prostitution!

I wouldn't bet on it, unfortunately.

 

[Ausm]

They're trolling. If republicans want to ban abortion because it prevents babies, then theoretically we should also ban vasectomies and tube tying. The bible explicitly says this is wrong. It's even listed before the passage about how gay sex is wrong and how eating lobster is wrong. It's such a big deal that it's the first book in the bible, Genesis.

What is you don't don't give a crap what the "good book" says?

 

[dank69]

This.

I laugh at the "But..but...you can't legislate other people's bodies!" arguments when in fact, there are tons and tons of laws in which the government does exactly that. Drugs and prostitution anyone? I hope anyone using this argument supports legalizing drugs and prostitution everywhere, or else, they're being hypocrites.



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Who doesn't support legalizing drugs and prostitution? People who don't understand that you can't stop people from doing those things, that's who. On top of that, they don't realize that making those things illegal creates more problems that it solves.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Who doesn't support legalizing drugs and prostitution? People who don't understand that you can't stop people from doing those things, that's who. On top of that, they don't realize that making those things illegal creates more problems that it solves.

Religiously influenced people like to force their morals on others, it helps them sleep at night.

 

[Atreus21]

They're trolling. If republicans want to ban abortion because it prevents babies, then theoretically we should also ban vasectomies and tube tying. The bible explicitly says this is wrong. It's even listed before the passage about how gay sex is wrong and how eating lobster is wrong. It's such a big deal that it's the first book in the bible, Genesis.

Because abortion doesn't prevent babies. It kills babies. Vasectomies prevent babies in both men and women.

It's astounding at the inability of the democrats to understand the simple difference.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Because abortion doesn't prevent babies. It kills babies. Vasectomies prevent babies in both men and women.

It's astounding at the inability of the democrats to understand the simple difference.

Most Dem's do, in my XP. The logic used begets the real battle, when is a baby consider an individual life and not a fetus. Repubs use feelings and beliefs to determine this, Dems use science. The battle continues...

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Who doesn't support legalizing drugs and prostitution?

Here is a recent example:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/prop...es-reject-marijuana-measure/story?id=12037727

People who don't understand that you can't stop people from doing those things, that's who. On top of that, they don't realize that making those things illegal creates more problems that it solves.

No disputing that here.

 

[hal2kilo]

The saying "What's good for the goose is good for the gander" seems to fit this quite appropriately.

The dems are just trying to point out the hypocrisy of the so called "small government" repubs. Small government is not just about the size of government, but the reach of government.