• We’re currently investigating an issue related to the forum theme and styling that is impacting page layout and visual formatting. The problem has been identified, and we are actively working on a resolution. There is no impact to user data or functionality, this is strictly a front-end display issue. We’ll post an update once the fix has been deployed. Thanks for your patience while we get this sorted.

Georgia Democrats to propose limitations on vasectomies for men

Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.
I don't like government wasting time on stuff like this, but they're making a valid point. If we're willing to have government involved in legislating control of a woman's body, then we should be willing to have the government legislate control of a man's body as well. Goose and gander and all that stuff.

Clearly something like this will never pass, but it does make a good point.
 
waggy said:
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/2...limitations-on-vasectomies-for-men/?hpt=hp_c2

As members of Georgia’s House of Representatives debate whether to prohibit abortions for women more than 20 weeks pregnant, House Democrats planned to introduce their own reproductive rights plan: No more vasectomies that leave "thousands of children ... deprived of birth."

Rep. Yasmin Neal, a Democrat from the Atlanta suburb of Jonesboro, planned to introduce a bill Wednesday that would prevent men from vasectomies unless needed to avert serious injury or death.

“If we legislate women’s bodies, it’s only fair that we legislate men’s,” said Neal, who said she wanted to introduce a bill that would generate emotion and conversation the way anti-abortion bills do. “There are too many problems in the state. Why are you under the skirts of women? I’m sure there are other places to be."
Click to expand...

I wonder how she feels about throwing pot users in prison. Where's your "legislating other people's bodies" rationale then? And how about prostitution?
 
ShawnD1 said:
They're trolling. If republicans want to ban abortion because it prevents babies, then theoretically we should also ban vasectomies and tube tying. The bible explicitly says this is wrong. It's even listed before the passage about how gay sex is wrong and how eating lobster is wrong. It's such a big deal that it's the first book in the bible, Genesis.
Click to expand...

Your analogy is poor - there's a difference between procedures which prevent pregnancies, and those which terminate them.
 
waggy said:
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/21/georgia-democrats-to-propose-limitations-on-vasectomies-for-men/?hpt=hp_c2

As members of Georgia’s House of Representatives debate whether to prohibit abortions for women more than 20 weeks pregnant, House Democrats planned to introduce their own reproductive rights plan: No more vasectomies that leave "thousands of children ... deprived of birth."

Rep. Yasmin Neal, a Democrat from the Atlanta suburb of Jonesboro, planned to introduce a bill Wednesday that would prevent men from vasectomies unless needed to avert serious injury or death.

“If we legislate women’s bodies, it’s only fair that we legislate men’s,” said Neal, who said she wanted to introduce a bill that would generate emotion and conversation the way anti-abortion bills do. “There are too many problems in the state. Why are you under the skirts of women? I’m sure there are other places to be."



/LOL i love it. i hope it passes. How many guys would freak out. then again most wouldn't care.

its a great way to get people to see both sides of the issue.
Click to expand...

It is a very stupid to compare a vasectomy to an abortion. They are not even close to the same thing.

I do see where you could compare a tubectomy to a vasectomy however. I haven't heard of anyone attempting to limit Tubal ligations though. Have you?


Bitch is stupid. So are the Dems.
 
Yeah I think its hilarious the way politicians waste time with bullshit.
Fuck all the real issues, we wont be alive to worry about it.
 
shortylickens said:
Yeah I think its hilarious the way politicians waste time with bullshit.
Fuck all the real issues, we wont be alive to worry about it.
Click to expand...

What are these real issues, and what would you like them to do about them? Be specific. Also, if you have an idea for what you would like to be done, can you take a quick look and see if there is legislative or executive support that is sufficient to pass it?

Once you check out those things, this will all make much more sense. I hear a constant refrain on here about politicians 'wasting time'. Generally, that's a ridiculous statement. Bills don't usually pass or not pass because people ran out of time by accident; someone has deliberately run out the clock, there isn't enough support, etc, etc.
 
Mursilis said:
I wonder how she feels about throwing pot users in prison. Where's your "legislating other people's bodies" rationale then? And how about prostitution?
Click to expand...

This.

I laugh at the "But..but...you can't legislate other people's bodies!" arguments when in fact, there are tons and tons of laws in which the government does exactly that. Drugs and prostitution anyone? I hope anyone using this argument supports legalizing drugs and prostitution everywhere, or else, they're being hypocrites.

feralkid said:
No surprise, you missed the entire point of this, and hacked out, as usual.
Click to expand...

What exactly is the point, may I ask? Without commenting on abortion itself, anyone should be able to see the obvious and huge difference between preventing pregnany and terminating one. A vascetomy is more along the lines of a tubal ligation, not an abortion. The whole "you can't legislate someone's body" is NOT a valid point, as previously pointed out. Yasmin Neal is a retard.
 
So, Dems are doing this to protest placing a 20 week window on abortions? I personally think a 20 week windows is a reasonable limit. And that has nothing to do with religion. I simply think that once a fetus reaches the point where they become viable outside of the womb, limitations should be put in place. Given that it is possible for Preterm babies to survive, AND grow to be healthy adults after 21 weeks, 20 weeks is very reasonable.
 
Phokus said:
No, this is a completely legitimate tactic to shed light as to what horrible shitstain subhuman garbage republicans are. It's getting national attention, isn't it? What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Click to expand...
You'd think so, but most people will not see this as trolling. It's too subtle.

Even the most obvious jokes are not detected.
too stupid for satire, how the media branded me as racist
Watch the video in that link and see if you think it looks like an obvious joke.

Also, remember this picture?
45268.jpg

Even with the article in that magazine explicitly stating why everything in that picture is wrong, people were still offended. I know you think "retarded" means IQ below 70, but it really means IQ below 110. Most people are retarded. The average is so much worse than anyone pictures it.
 
Wait, so does this law only apply to hermaphrodite mutants whose sperm is actually composed of fertilized zygotes with 46 chromosomes?
 
ShawnD1 said:
You'd think so, but most people will not see this as trolling. It's too subtle.

Even the most obvious jokes are not detected.
too stupid for satire, how the media branded me as racist
Watch the video in that link and see if you think it looks like an obvious joke.

Also, remember this picture?
45268.jpg

Even with the article in that magazine explicitly stating why everything in that picture is wrong, people were still offended. I know you think "retarded" means IQ below 70, but it really means IQ below 110. Most people are retarded. The average is so much worse than anyone pictures it.
Click to expand...

I don't know about you, but I don't prefer to pay my representatives for their satire.
 
IndyColtsFan said:
I laugh at the "But..but...you can't legislate other people's bodies!" arguments when in fact, there are tons and tons of laws in which the government does exactly that. Drugs and prostitution anyone? I hope anyone using this argument supports legalizing drugs and prostitution everywhere, or else, they're being hypocrites.
Click to expand...

While you certainly CAN legislate what people do with their bodies the track record of such laws has been less than great. Look at what a spectacular failure the War on Drugs has been.
 
IndyColtsFan said:
I laugh at the "But..but...you can't legislate other people's bodies!" arguments when in fact, there are tons and tons of laws in which the government does exactly that. Drugs and prostitution anyone? I hope anyone using this argument supports legalizing drugs and prostitution everywhere, or else, they're being hypocrites.
Click to expand...

Hopefully this will lead more people to support the legalization of all drugs and prostitution!
 
ichy said:
While you certainly CAN legislate what people do with their bodies the track record of such laws has been less than great. Look at what a spectacular failure the War on Drugs has been.
Click to expand...

I'm not denying that.

eskimospy said:
Hopefully this will lead more people to support the legalization of all drugs and prostitution!
Click to expand...

I wouldn't bet on it, unfortunately.
 
ShawnD1 said:
They're trolling. If republicans want to ban abortion because it prevents babies, then theoretically we should also ban vasectomies and tube tying. The bible explicitly says this is wrong. It's even listed before the passage about how gay sex is wrong and how eating lobster is wrong. It's such a big deal that it's the first book in the bible, Genesis.
Click to expand...

What is you don't don't give a crap what the "good book" says?
 
IndyColtsFan said:
This.

I laugh at the "But..but...you can't legislate other people's bodies!" arguments when in fact, there are tons and tons of laws in which the government does exactly that. Drugs and prostitution anyone? I hope anyone using this argument supports legalizing drugs and prostitution everywhere, or else, they're being hypocrites.



...
Click to expand...
Who doesn't support legalizing drugs and prostitution? People who don't understand that you can't stop people from doing those things, that's who. On top of that, they don't realize that making those things illegal creates more problems that it solves.
 
dank69 said:
Who doesn't support legalizing drugs and prostitution? People who don't understand that you can't stop people from doing those things, that's who. On top of that, they don't realize that making those things illegal creates more problems that it solves.
Click to expand...

Religiously influenced people like to force their morals on others, it helps them sleep at night.
 
ShawnD1 said:
They're trolling. If republicans want to ban abortion because it prevents babies, then theoretically we should also ban vasectomies and tube tying. The bible explicitly says this is wrong. It's even listed before the passage about how gay sex is wrong and how eating lobster is wrong. It's such a big deal that it's the first book in the bible, Genesis.
Click to expand...

Because abortion doesn't prevent babies. It kills babies. Vasectomies prevent babies in both men and women.

It's astounding at the inability of the democrats to understand the simple difference.
 
Atreus21 said:
Because abortion doesn't prevent babies. It kills babies. Vasectomies prevent babies in both men and women.

It's astounding at the inability of the democrats to understand the simple difference.
Click to expand...

Most Dem's do, in my XP. The logic used begets the real battle, when is a baby consider an individual life and not a fetus. Repubs use feelings and beliefs to determine this, Dems use science. The battle continues...
 
The saying "What's good for the goose is good for the gander" seems to fit this quite appropriately.

The dems are just trying to point out the hypocrisy of the so called "small government" repubs. Small government is not just about the size of government, but the reach of government.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

Back
Top