George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography

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KAMAZON

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No, my statments are based on research of what really happened from mulitple places....his statements are based on his truth as fed to him by LaRouche.

Yea, multiple sources owned by Robert Murdoch. You say I have LaRouche feeding me info, I say your sources are owned by mass media. Although we disagree, it is still nice to speak to someone who at least knows some info about this matter unlike most people here.
 

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Originally posted by: KAMAZON
Would you mind supplying detailed information on the investments made after Pearl Harbor?

Would you also supply a list of all other Americans which made similar investments in Germany from 1920 to 1941.

Thank you for you time, you were fun to play with.

Making investments into german companies isn't a crime, we rebuilt the entire country. Again, funding the companies which were mining the minerals and producing the wepaons to kill American GIs while the war was going on, that's different. Do you honestly not see a difference between the two, or are you just playing stupid?
Please produce evidence attesting to "funding the companies which were mining the minerals and producing the wepaons to kill American GIs while the war was going on." You will find that you cannot provide any plausible, acceptable evidence.

This process was already attempted and actually heard before the United States Senate during the 1970s. General Motors and Ford, among others, were fully exonerated.

As stated earlier, the "book" is utter nonsense and employs references, events and key people completely out of the actual, historical context. Furthermore, this particular conspiracy theory which the "anti-Bush League" subscribes to is also absurd.

Finally, if this idiotic "book" is so accurate and investigative then why isn't it a best-seller? Additionally, why isn't this "book" on required reading lists in the history departments of universities? I'll tell you why it isn't. Because it is propaganda.
 

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Originally posted by: KAMAZON
No, my statments are based on research of what really happened from mulitple places....his statements are based on his truth as fed to him by LaRouche.

Yea, multiple sources owned by Robert Murdoch. You say I have LaRouche feeding me info, I say your sources are owned by mass media. Although we disagree, it is still nice to speak to someone who at least knows some info about this matter unlike most people here.
You mean Rupert Murdoch? Sorry but that's not where I got my information....just do some looking around. It's easy to find the facts that refute your little conspiracy. Of course you don't want to see them or when you do you automatically label them as coming from the "mass media" which is part of your paranoid fantasy. Ol Lyndon would be proud of you....I'm sure it warms his heart to know that you have been so totally brainwashed.....

 

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Originally posted by: KAMAZON
Nice misinformation.....The truth is that in 1932 New York's American Museum of Natural History hosted the 3rd International Congress of Eugenics. The meeting was dedicated to Mary Harriman, the mother of Averell Harriman - partner at the Wall Street powerhouse Brown Brothers/Harriman. Mary Harriman had been influential back in the early 1900's in the founding of the Eugenics Record Office in London. Tell me again how that equates to Prescott Bush inviting Nazis to give a conference.

You're really good at twisting 1/2 facts into something damning.....too bad the truth eventually comes along and proves you to be either ill informed or purposefully misleading.

By your own posts in this thread, Presscott and the Harrimans were the ones running the 'Nazi Bank' together. They were also partners in the bank. His partners mother who was a major influence in the later Nazi science of Eugenics (proving white people are superior) started this study no where else but in London, and came to the US.

Just because his bank partners (who'se bank was shut down for funding the nazis) were funding a racial study of 'the masterarian race', doesn't mean Presscott didn't invite the Nazis to the confrence. The fact that his partners family was a major influence in the race study that hte Nazis adopted these works as their own, would give MORE credible influence to Presscotts own nazi ideologies. Even if I am not able to get the documentation that Presscott personally invited the Nazi into NY for the confrence, that doesn't make light of the fact that his partners family (who'se bank was shut down for funding hte nazis) were a investor to Nazi ideology of the great arian race.
There you go again.....
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Please produce evidence attesting to "funding the companies which were mining the minerals and producing the wepaons to kill American GIs while the war was going on." You will find that you cannot provide any plausible, acceptable evidence.
Being shut down for holding and passing money to "Thyssin Steel" under the 'Trading with the enemy pact" in 1942, a major Nazi War Company, isn't enough for you?

As stated earlier, the "book" is utter nonsense and employs references, events and key people completely out of the actual, historical context. Furthermore, this particular conspiracy theory which the "anti-Bush League" subscribes to is also absurd.
Which refrences would those be?

Finally, if this idiotic "book" is so accurate and investigative then why isn't it a best-seller? Additionally, why isn't this "book" on required reading lists in the history departments of universities? I'll tell you why it isn't. Because it is propaganda.
Seeing how the Eugenics movement also seethed out of Princeton, Harvard, and Vandabelt, with these high ranking 'academic' people in it, it's no suprise. You speak so foundly of academics, as if they aren't biast or willing to whore themselves out. For example, the President of Harvard who personally trained Henry Kissinger, Zbignew Brzezinski, and Samuel P. Huntington was William Yandall Elliot. Elliot belonged to the 'Tennesee templars' and was in a group of the grandchildren of the founders of the KKK after the civil war. It was Elliots grandpa who wanted to erect a statue of Jason Pike in Capitol Hill. It was Elliot who would claim the American Revolution and constitution is BS, and we need to go back to a british style of imperial rule. With 'academia' like this, who needs Nazis?
 

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Originally posted by: KAMAZON
Please produce evidence attesting to "funding the companies which were mining the minerals and producing the wepaons to kill American GIs while the war was going on." You will find that you cannot provide any plausible, acceptable evidence.
Being shut down for holding and passing money to "Thyssin Steel" under the 'Trading with the enemy pact" in 1942, a major Nazi War Company, isn't enough for you?

As stated earlier, the "book" is utter nonsense and employs references, events and key people completely out of the actual, historical context. Furthermore, this particular conspiracy theory which the "anti-Bush League" subscribes to is also absurd.
Which refrences would those be?

Finally, if this idiotic "book" is so accurate and investigative then why isn't it a best-seller? Additionally, why isn't this "book" on required reading lists in the history departments of universities? I'll tell you why it isn't. Because it is propaganda.
Seeing how the Eugenics movement also seethed out of Princeton, Harvard, and Vandabelt, with these high ranking 'academic' people in it, it's no suprise. You speak so foundly of academics, as if they aren't biast or willing to whore themselves out. For example, the President of Harvard who personally trained Henry Kissinger, Zbignew Brzezinski, and Samuel P. Huntington was William Yandall Elliot. Elliot belonged to the 'Tennesee templars' and was in a group of the grandchildren of the founders of the KKK after the civil war. It was Elliots grandpa who wanted to erect a statue of Jason Pike in Capitol Hill. It was Elliot who would claim the American Revolution and constitution is BS, and we need to go back to a british style of imperial rule. With 'academia' like this, who needs Nazis?
You need to lay off the Yoo Hoo and Pixie Sticks...they are making you even crazier.

So now academics is bad....guess we should burn down all the universities and just go back to living in the dark ages. That would make things much easier for our lord and maser Lyndon LaRouche to control us. It's nice to see that since you are so against academics that you actually practice what you preach....it's obvious you don't know sh!t!

By the way...what the hell is Vandabelt and biast?

 

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You need to lay off the Yoo Hoo and Pixie Sticks...they are making you even crazier.

So now academics is bad....guess we should burn down all the universities and just go back to living in the dark ages. That would make things much easier for our lord and maser Lyndon LaRouche to control us. It's nice to see that since you are so against academics that you actually practice what you preach....it's obvious you don't know sh!t!

By the way...what the hell is Vandabelt and biast?

Actually, neither LaRouche nor I advocate burning down anything. What you propose is eeriely similar to the Nazis book burnings. You asked 'why havent the academia historians' embraced this book? I'm telling you because some of the highest academia are corrupt, and actually tote this Eugenics and other racist beliefs.

As far as a 'new dark age' goes, you have no idea that we already are in a impericist dark age. Whenever the mass population is trained on the imperialist ideas of Aristotle, you tend to have a dark age. When key individuals come out and learn using the Socratic and Platonic method, you have a renaissance.

Renaissance Men:
Kepler
Archemides
Davinci
Liebniz


Men of the Empire:
Newton
John Locke/Adam Smith
Heidegger/Hume/Nietzche


Notice that the bottom half is focused on more in colleges, than the top half. Don't believe me? Step into any Uni Science, Philosophy, or Economics department
 

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Being shut down for holding and passing money to "Thyssin Steel" under the 'Trading with the enemy pact" in 1942, a major Nazi War Company, isn't enough for you?
Of course the bank was shut down. Every German subsidiary in the United States was seized at the time. There was a war going on. Seizing enemy property was nothing new. As I stated earlier in another post, the U.S. took Bayer-USA during WWI.

Which refrences would those be?
Oh, let's see.

1. "Fritz Thyssen, I Paid Hitler, 1941" Written by a GHOSTWRITER while Thyssen was in a concentration camp. Not mentioned in the references.

2. "Table of Vereinigte Stahlwerke output, figures are percent of German total as of 1938" Author deliberately misleads the reader as he implies war production for 1938 production figures. See excerpt from book below:

"The 1942 U.S. government investigative report said that Bush's Nazi-front bank was an interlocking concern with the Vereinigte Stahlwerke (United Steel Works Corporation or German Steel Trust) led by Fritz Thyssen and his two brothers. After the war, Congressional investigators probed the Thyssen interests, Union Banking Corp. and related Nazi units. The investigation showed that the Vereinigte Stahlwerke had produced the following approximate proportions of total German national output:"

Perhaps if you became MORE involved in true historical analysis from an academic perspective, you might then have the ability to see beyond mere tin foil.






 

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Oh, let's see.

1. "Fritz Thyssen, I Paid Hitler, 1941" Written by a GHOSTWRITER while Thyssen was in a concentration camp. Not mentioned in the references.

2. "Table of Vereinigte Stahlwerke output, figures are percent of German total as of 1938" Author deliberately misleads the reader as he implies war production for 1938 production figures. See excerpt from book below:

"The 1942 U.S. government investigative report said that Bush's Nazi-front bank was an interlocking concern with the Vereinigte Stahlwerke (United Steel Works Corporation or German Steel Trust) led by Fritz Thyssen and his two brothers. After the war, Congressional investigators probed the Thyssen interests, Union Banking Corp. and related Nazi units. The investigation showed that the Vereinigte Stahlwerke had produced the following approximate proportions of total German national output:"

Since you've given me something real to research, I will be happy to do so. I cannot answer your questions right now, as i mentioned previously, my posts here were not to defend this book. I have not even read this book, (I'm also not goign to defend a book that I haven't read) this information is readily available in many other sources, such as the Library of congress. Therefore, I'm going to read the respective chapters and speak to the author, and tell you mind findings.
 

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Ah yes, HJ, what a wonderful story. A similar thing happened to the greatest sword maker and his young rival. An up and coming sword smith challenged the greatest master to a contest of swords. After much cajoling and pressure the great master assented to the dual. Each made a fine weapon and both were placed in the river sharp edge to the current. I can't exactly remember what it was that was placed in the river but I think it was a two leaves of corn. The crowd watch in amazement as the corn leaf split in two as it passed over the challenger's blade. The second leaf floated down and then around the blade of the old master. In that way did he retain his crown.
 

shiner

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Originally posted by: KAMAZON
You need to lay off the Yoo Hoo and Pixie Sticks...they are making you even crazier.

So now academics is bad....guess we should burn down all the universities and just go back to living in the dark ages. That would make things much easier for our lord and maser Lyndon LaRouche to control us. It's nice to see that since you are so against academics that you actually practice what you preach....it's obvious you don't know sh!t!

By the way...what the hell is Vandabelt and biast?

Actually, neither LaRouche nor I advocate burning down anything. What you propose is eeriely similar to the Nazis book burnings. You asked 'why havent the academia historians' embraced this book? I'm telling you because some of the highest academia are corrupt, and actually tote this Eugenics and other racist beliefs.

As far as a 'new dark age' goes, you have no idea that we already are in a impericist dark age. Whenever the mass population is trained on the imperialist ideas of Aristotle, you tend to have a dark age. When key individuals come out and learn using the Socratic and Platonic method, you have a renaissance.

Renaissance Men:
Kepler
Archemides
Davinci
Liebniz


Men of the Empire:
Newton
John Locke/Adam Smith
Heidegger/Hume/Nietzche


Notice that the bottom half is focused on more in colleges, than the top half. Don't believe me? Step into any Uni Science, Philosophy, or Economics department
Ok, first off nutburger I didn't propose anything. What I said was "So now academics is bad....guess we should burn down all the universities and just go back to living in the dark ages. " Meaning that since you and LaDouche seem to have a problem with academics your obvious next step is doing away with them. As for the rest of your post....you really REALLY need some help.....I'm not saying that as an adversary....I'm saying that as one human being to another. You have clearly been brainwashed into believe everything Uncle Lyndie says.....step back for a minute and look at some of the stuff you have been posting. It borders on the insane....


 

KAMAZON

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Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: KAMAZON
You need to lay off the Yoo Hoo and Pixie Sticks...they are making you even crazier.

So now academics is bad....guess we should burn down all the universities and just go back to living in the dark ages. That would make things much easier for our lord and maser Lyndon LaRouche to control us. It's nice to see that since you are so against academics that you actually practice what you preach....it's obvious you don't know sh!t!

By the way...what the hell is Vandabelt and biast?

Actually, neither LaRouche nor I advocate burning down anything. What you propose is eeriely similar to the Nazis book burnings. You asked 'why havent the academia historians' embraced this book? I'm telling you because some of the highest academia are corrupt, and actually tote this Eugenics and other racist beliefs.

As far as a 'new dark age' goes, you have no idea that we already are in a impericist dark age. Whenever the mass population is trained on the imperialist ideas of Aristotle, you tend to have a dark age. When key individuals come out and learn using the Socratic and Platonic method, you have a renaissance.

Renaissance Men:
Kepler
Archemides
Davinci
Liebniz


Men of the Empire:
Newton
John Locke/Adam Smith
Heidegger/Hume/Nietzche


Notice that the bottom half is focused on more in colleges, than the top half. Don't believe me? Step into any Uni Science, Philosophy, or Economics department
Ok, first off nutburger I didn't propose anything. What I said was "So now academics is bad....guess we should burn down all the universities and just go back to living in the dark ages. " Meaning that since you and LaDouche seem to have a problem with academics your obvious next step is doing away with them. As for the rest of your post....you really REALLY need some help.....I'm not saying that as an adversary....I'm saying that as one human being to another. You have clearly been brainwashed into believe everything Uncle Lyndie says.....step back for a minute and look at some of the stuff you have been posting. It borders on the insane....



Since you so concerned about my or our mental well being, that I will give you some philosophical information for you to review. Perhaps this can help diagnose which one of us is insane, if either.

Yes, someone must really be insane if they believe Kepler, Archemides, Davinci, Liebniz (just for fun, so you think I'm more 'insane', I'm going to list even more 'of those crazy "Renaissance Men"') Plato, Socrates, Pythagarus, Archaitus, Raphael, and many others are "Renaissance Men". As renaissance men they developed human progress and mastery of our environment and minds, which increases mans potential density on the earth. Platos and these people believed humans are created in the image of the creator, and that our minds sets us apart from any other animal on this planet that we know of.

This is evident in Raphael Sanzios painting "The School of Athens", in which in the center, Plato is debating Aristotle, however Platos head is the face of Leonardo Davinci. Plato is pointing to the heavens and his mind, while Aristotle is fixed to the floor, as al Gore would call "The first Environmentalist" lol!
Image at the top of my website.


On the other hand, you had frauds, liars, plagerisers that have formed an beastial idea of humanity and man, which have always worked for the empires to help them loot populations and keep their potential population density down. They also believe in the fixed universe Aristotalian system, and that humans are just an animal or a beast. What is so insane about this? What do you believe
 

shiner

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Originally posted by: KAMAZON
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: KAMAZON
You need to lay off the Yoo Hoo and Pixie Sticks...they are making you even crazier.

So now academics is bad....guess we should burn down all the universities and just go back to living in the dark ages. That would make things much easier for our lord and maser Lyndon LaRouche to control us. It's nice to see that since you are so against academics that you actually practice what you preach....it's obvious you don't know sh!t!

By the way...what the hell is Vandabelt and biast?

Actually, neither LaRouche nor I advocate burning down anything. What you propose is eeriely similar to the Nazis book burnings. You asked 'why havent the academia historians' embraced this book? I'm telling you because some of the highest academia are corrupt, and actually tote this Eugenics and other racist beliefs.

As far as a 'new dark age' goes, you have no idea that we already are in a impericist dark age. Whenever the mass population is trained on the imperialist ideas of Aristotle, you tend to have a dark age. When key individuals come out and learn using the Socratic and Platonic method, you have a renaissance.

Renaissance Men:
Kepler
Archemides
Davinci
Liebniz


Men of the Empire:
Newton
John Locke/Adam Smith
Heidegger/Hume/Nietzche


Notice that the bottom half is focused on more in colleges, than the top half. Don't believe me? Step into any Uni Science, Philosophy, or Economics department
Ok, first off nutburger I didn't propose anything. What I said was "So now academics is bad....guess we should burn down all the universities and just go back to living in the dark ages. " Meaning that since you and LaDouche seem to have a problem with academics your obvious next step is doing away with them. As for the rest of your post....you really REALLY need some help.....I'm not saying that as an adversary....I'm saying that as one human being to another. You have clearly been brainwashed into believe everything Uncle Lyndie says.....step back for a minute and look at some of the stuff you have been posting. It borders on the insane....



Since you so concerned about my or our mental well being, that I will give you some philosophical information for you to review. Perhaps this can help diagnose which one of us is insane, if either.

Yes, someone must really be insane if they believe Kepler, Archemides, Davinci, Liebniz (just for fun, so you think I'm more 'insane', I'm going to list even more 'of those crazy "Renaissance Men"') Plato, Socrates, Pythagarus, Archaitus, Raphael, and many others are "Renaissance Men". As renaissance men they developed human progress and mastery of our environment and minds, which increases mans potential density on the earth. Platos and these people believed humans are created in the image of the creator, and that our minds sets us apart from any other animal on this planet that we know of.

This is evident in Raphael Sanzios painting "The School of Athens", in which in the center, Plato is debating Aristotle, however Platos head is the face of Leonardo Davinci. Plato is pointing to the heavens and his mind, while Aristotle is fixed to the floor, as al Gore would call "The first Environmentalist" lol!
Image at the top of my website.


On the other hand, you had frauds, liars, plagerisers that have formed an beastial idea of humanity and man, which have always worked for the empires to help them loot populations and keep their potential population density down. They also believe in the fixed universe Aristotalian system, and that humans are just an animal or a beast. What is so insane about this? What do you believe
You left out the part about the Papists, saucer people, and the reverse vampires.....

 

KAMAZON

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Read this slow ok...

Prescott at the time was an investment banker with Brown Brothers Harriman (BBH), which had funneled U.S. capital into Germany during the 1920s and '30s. Among the seized companies was the Union Banking Corporation (UBC) of New York, which was controlled by German industrialist Fritz Thyssen.

Prescott Bush, for his part, owned a single share of stock (of 4,000) in UBC

I've done my research, and now you read this slow, since it gets even worse for you:

Presscott Bush was the "Managing Director" of the bank, as his official title. The reason he had 1 stock, because that is what they give the managing director. His bosses brother, Roland Harriman, owned 3900 of the Shares.
 

KAMAZON

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So you haven't read a book that you posted in a thread about and have been quoting constantly in this, and other, threads. Nice....real nice.......you're either a loon, a liar, or a little of both.

Show me 1 time I 'quoted' the book in this or other threads. When you see that you cannot provide any links of me quoting the book, look in the mirror and then see who is the loon.
 

KAMAZON

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We don't need another Ralph Nader in 2004.

LaRouche got over 20% of the Primarie votes in Alabama in the 2000 elections. Joe LIeberman and Al Gore nullifeid the 1965 Voters Acts Rights to kick LaRouche out, since he had enough to debate. He is the ONLY president that ran the platform of 2000 as 'there is no surplus, there is no economic boom, this is the worst global financial meltdown we are entering'. He has initiated a new global financial system based on the American System of Political Economy which has gained global support. Nader is a drug legalizing rich boy.
 

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Kamazon,
Not that it will mean much here but, your argument is good... I can't argue with facts... LaRoache is not electable notwithstanding garnering some votes. He should run for congress... assuming he has civil rights restored. But, would be probably kicked out or Like Jim Trafficant arrested.
 

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The Electable LaRouche


Some people who ought to know better, exclaim, ?But, LaRouche is not electable!? Do not become upset when you hear such foolish things being said. When people say that, they are not actually thinking; it is just another case of a mouth shooting itself off in a knee-jerk, Pavlovian reflex. If that exclamation were true, why did most of the U.S. system spend much on desperate efforts to prevent my winning, over so many decades? When all that and related matters are considered, especially considering the amount of money spent, over so many years, on trying to stop me, and considering the way the world?s monetary-financial system is crashing today, I am, intrinsically, the most electable U.S. Presidential candidate since Dwight Eisenhower.

William Jefferson Clinton was electable, because of qualities which some people, including admirers, described as those of a ?political animal.? He was so successful a campaigner that he could have elected even an Al Gore to be President, if Al Gore had not been Al Gore. I am a different kind of candidate, the kind sane voters prefer above all others when they wish to rescue their nation from the biggest and deepest financial crash in more than a century.

My job right now, is to save the Presidency of the U.S.A., while George W. Bush, Jr. is President. Considering what Bush and his administration are doing to themselves, saving the Constitutional institution known as the Presidency, is no easy chore. The first step toward saving the Presidency is to pull the plug on two U.S. Senators whose combined leading influence today is the greatest single threat to the nation and its Presidency at this time: Senators John McCain and Joseph Lieberman.

In short: to save the U.S.A. from what threatens to become the worst crisis in its history as a constitutional Republic, we must defend the institution of the Presidency. To that end, McCain and Lieberman, and certain foul connections and interests which they represent, must be removed from the influential roles they have played since the 2000 Presidential primary- and general-election campaigns.

The Presidency
The Constitutional office of President of the U.S.A. is a unique institution. It is of a type imitated in the best periods of the Republic of Mexico, and reflected in some part in France under President Charles de Gaulle. Nevertheless, when seen in the context of our Constitution, it is a kind of Presidency which every prudent nation should wish to have as a model for its own use.

For most of our republic?s history, either the personal quality of the elected President, or his performance in office, were defective. Nonetheless, the Republic and the institution of the Presidency survived such Presidents. In times of great crisis, it was the role of great Presidents, such as Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt, which saved the nation, and this was done within the Constitutional framework of the Presidency as such. Even if the incumbent President has serious short-comings, the only way in which to deal with the kind of systemic crisis which represents a threat to the continued existence of constitutional government, is to use the Presidency as the leading instrument for organizing the passage to safety.

The uniquely superior qualities of our Presidency are expressed by the role of the principal founder of our republic, Benjamin Franklin, and Franklin?s guiding hand in crafting the 1776 U.S. Declaration of Independence and the 1787-1789 drafting of the 1789 U.S. Federal Constitution. Unlike those nations of Europe arising from the little new dark age of religious and related warfare, of 1511-1648, the best of all European thought, taken variously from the United Kingdom and the continent, was expressed in the mobilization to establish the first true modern republic in English-speaking North America. Ours was the only constitution established to the present date, which was conceived as governed pervasively by a single set of truly universal principles. Those are the principles summarized in the Preamble of our Constitution, a Preamble to which provisions of the Constitution and our laws are properly subject to the present day, and for as long as this republic shall live.

The principles expressed by that Preamble, are essentially three.

The first, is the universal principle of perfect sovereignty, a concept which reflects such precedents as Nicholas of Cusa?s Concordancia Catholica, superseding Dante Alghieri?s De Monarchia. From Cusa on, the notion of the perfect sovereignty of a nation, was intermeshed with the notion of a community of principle (concordancia) among sovereign nation-states. This was echoed by then-Secretary of State John Quincy Adams? notion of a ?community of principle? among the future sovereign republics of the Americas.

The second, is the universal principle of the general welfare, as this notion of agape, associated with I Corinthians 13. This use of the term general welfare was associated with the English use of commonwealth by Sir Thomas More and others in Sixteenth-Century England, and echoed in the notion of a Commonwealth of Massachusetts, as the intention of that term was defined for Massachusetts, by Winthrop and the Mathers. The same notion is sometimes indicated by the term ?common good,? as expressed by Cotton Mather and Benjamin Franklin on the necessary commitment to do good.

The third is the universal principle of posterity. This identifies a notion sometimes associated with the Scholastics? simultaneity of eternity. This has crucial, underlying implications beyond the comprehension of all but perhaps a very few among the world?s legal profession today. For our purposes here, a simpler approximation will be sufficient. When we make law, or other national policy, it must be our intention to be as accountable to future generations, for what we do, or fail to do, as to our contemporaries. We are not permitted, by principle of law, to be governed by mere contemporary opinion. We must foresee the consequences of what we do for future generations, as President Lincoln expressed this in his Gettysburg Address. We are accountable, first of all, for the future of our republic; but, we must also be concerned for the effects of our practice upon other nations.

Every other part of our Federal Constitution, is subject to interpretation according to the superior authority of the Preamble read as a statement of intention. No contrary interpretation is allowable. No law can be allowed to persist, if it violates a reading of the whole Constitution as shaped by that intention.

Thus, our Constitution is a constitution based on principle, rather than merely a parliamentary system?s reliance on a combination of ?basic law? and other legislation. Ours is a system of law based on discoverable universal principle, not a merely positive law.

Under our Constitution, contrary to the governments premised upon parliamentary systems, the responsibility for the sovereign state lies entirely within the institution of the Presidency. This Presidency is not the property of the incumbent; it is an institution in which the incumbent President must perform a certain specific quality of function, while he remains in office.

The Presidency is, however, accountable to a Constitutional separation of powers. It is accountable to the law-making body, the Congress, and to the Federal Court, and, in a different way, to the Federal states. While the conflicts between President and Congress are notorious, the most dangerous feature of the separation of powers have come, historically, from dysfunctions within a Federal Court which came, repeatedly, much too much under the influence of the financier interest associated with the American Tory current. The repeated failure of Presidents and the Congress, to take the principle of the Federal Constitution into account in the selection of Federal judges, especially those of the Principle as such, has often filled the Federal bench with long-term serving justices who tend more to undermine the Constitution, than serve it.

For A Time of Crisis
Since 1789, the Presidency of the U.S.A. has remained intact as an institution, until now. It has survived scoundrels such as van Buren, Polk, Pierce, and Buchanan, a Ku Klux Klan fanatic, Woodrow Wilson, the follies of Richard Nixon, and so on. Although we have suffered several certified political assassinations of our Presidents, and some justly suspected cases of sudden deaths in office, only once, the Confederacy?s slave-holders? full-scale military insurrection, has the continuity of the Presidency been directly threatened.

Until now, the greatest crises within the Presidency itself were those confronting Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt. In both cases, the Presidency had been misled, almost without interruption, during a succession of terms under controlled American Tory interests. Such was the situation which challenged President Lincoln and also Franklin Roosevelt. Both conducted a turnabout from Presidential policies which had violated the principles of our Constitution. Both faced the challenge of a terrible war on whose outcome the future existence of our republic depended. Both, despite the awful burden of war, inspired our patriotic citizens and brought our nation to a higher level of prosperity than any nation of the world had achieved up to that time.

During the 213 years of the Presidency, no other nation-state of the world has a comparable achievement. The British monarchy, of course, is not a sovereign nation-state, but, from long before 1789, until the present day, an Empire according to the feudalist model of a Venetian imperial maritime form of financier-oligarchical power. The source of our Presidency?s virtue on this account, lies in the implication of the universal principle radiating from the Preamble of our Federal Constitution, and thus permeating the intent of the Constitution as a whole.

Within the bounds of checks and balances, it is the Presidency which must decide. It must do this in its capacity as the sole representative of the sovereignty of the republic. This gives that Presidency great powers, and great stability, far beyond those of any parliamentary government. However, the President himself does not possess those powers; he shares the powers inhering in the continuity of the Presidency itself. He depends, chiefly, on the functions of the various Departments of the Executive Branch. Although an incumbent President puts his personal imprint, more or less strongly, on his administration as a whole, his powers to act effectively depend, most immediately on the role of the Departments and the appendages of the Office of the President as such.

At first glance, that description might be misread as merely truisms. However, when we bring the significance of the McCain-Lieberman cabal into consideration, the points I have just listed here have been overlooked by most of those in official Washington thus far.

Where Bush Stands - - or, Falls
President George W. Bush, Jr. clearly has no understanding of the most crucial features of the growing menace threatening the U.S.A. today. He gained office more through the follies of the Gore-Lieberman ticket, than by popularity, and showed no signs of preparation for any among the crises which would hit him prior to September 11, 2001, or later. Nonetheless, he is President. Therefore, do not babble about possible outcomes of new elections. The present world situation is deadly, economically and otherwise. What must the Presidency do, right now, and how do we get that done under a Bush Presidency?

Who should be the next U.S. President? Obviously, one who as been proven in the crucible of crisis which threatens the Bush Presidency today.

Two general measures must be taken. First, we must shut down the political blackmail currently being exerted on the Presidency by the McCain-Lieberman cabal?s influence on the Senate, the Congress as a whole, and the leadership of the major political parties. Second, we must build the kind of bi-partisan political infrastructure around the Presidency, which gives the Presidency the policy-options needed, both to extricate itself from its own recent follies, and to develop a new form of collaboration for economic reconstruction with nations growing increasingly restive over the nauseous impact of the influence on current U.S. strategic practice, of desperadoes such as McCain, Lieberman, Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, et al.

By sinking the future political ambitions of Lieberman and McCain now, we create an otherwise non-existent possibility for a rational form of bi-partisan deliberation on options available to the Presidency. We must make that change now; the U.S. is presently careening toward strategic economic and other global disasters. Change is urgent; the time is now.

McCain is not the worst. His financial connections, the antics of the Hudson Institute, and his personal instability, are serious problems in themselves. However, the danger from McCain comes chiefly through his ties to the Joe Lieberman whom William F. Buckley, Jr. and the far-right National Review gang brought into the Senate. It is the combination of known and dark connections between Lieberman and McCain, which has enabled the crew around Lieberman to hold U.S. policy-shaping hostage since the time of Senator Jeffords? retirement from the Republican Party.

My associates and I are currently working, at my prompting, to expose the ugly public record and other relevant facts about the Lieberman-McCain-Buckley-Steinhardt connection. When the broader public discovers what that record shows, as I know that record now, Joe Lieberman will not be qualified for mayor of East Dogpatch, Connecticut. Open the floodgates for new leadership of the Democratic Party, and we will be situated to reshape a bi-partisan environment around the Presidency. No one can guarantee success; but, since it is the only live option available in the short term, we must take it.

Sorry, Joe, but it is time to go. Fade away, Joe.



 

burnedout

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Originally posted by: KAMAZON
So you haven't read a book that you posted in a thread about and have been quoting constantly in this, and other, threads. Nice....real nice.......you're either a loon, a liar, or a little of both.

Show me 1 time I 'quoted' the book in this or other threads. When you see that you cannot provide any links of me quoting the book, look in the mirror and then see who is the loon.

"STEEL, SYNTH. RUBBER AND OIL, IRON, PIG IRON"

"Show me something real that refutes chapter 2"

"Thyssin Steel" under the 'Trading with the enemy pact" in 1942"



 

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"STEEL, SYNTH. RUBBER AND OIL, IRON, PIG IRON"

"Show me something real that refutes chapter 2"

"Thyssin Steel" under the 'Trading with the enemy pact" in 1942"

Excuse me, but I fail to see where I am quoting 'the book'. If you type in "Thyssin Steel" "Trading with teh enemy pact" 1942 in any internet search engine, you get hundreds of results. The "Bush BOok" isn't the only document in the world which researches this.

 

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I have to take a break in the mudslinging here to explain something.

The zealous manner in which I attack Bush is not based solely on my perception of the job he's doing.

Clinton was attacked for eight years. Sometimes with the most outlandish charges with absolutely no merit.

This attack was conducted not only on the house and senate floors but every day in major media. The media even began attacking the Clinton's daughter, Chelsea.

An estimated $60 million was spent investigating President Clinton.

The very same people in the same party that led the attack are now asking for cooperation and fair play. And suggesting that anyone who isn't cooperating is a traitor.

George Bush may be a real nice guy. I don't know, I've never met him. But he makes a better target for investigation than Clinton by long shot. This guy is one big bullseye.

At the very least admit hounding Clinton and Bush's past mistakes. And realize those mistakes carry a price.

You can label it revenge if you like. I just call it fair play. Clinton was treated unfairly from day one. Why should Bush be treated any differently? Besides, someone has to do it. The Democrats certainly aren't.
 

shiner

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Originally posted by: KAMAZON
Read this slow ok...

Prescott at the time was an investment banker with Brown Brothers Harriman (BBH), which had funneled U.S. capital into Germany during the 1920s and '30s. Among the seized companies was the Union Banking Corporation (UBC) of New York, which was controlled by German industrialist Fritz Thyssen.

Prescott Bush, for his part, owned a single share of stock (of 4,000) in UBC

I've done my research, and now you read this slow, since it gets even worse for you:

Presscott Bush was the "Managing Director" of the bank, as his official title. The reason he had 1 stock, because that is what they give the managing director. His bosses brother, Roland Harriman, owned 3900 of the Shares.
Sigh....let me just copy and paste my response to you in another thread...

What research have you done? Let me guess....you read some more of LaRouche's ranting.....ohhhh that's research all right. Funny how you are willing to accept any kind of research except for the academic kind. Ohh academia...it's soooo bad....you can't trust anyone who has ever stepped foot on a university campus.

I never said Prescott Bush was kicked out of the Harriman business, what I said was that he resigned in 1931....see that resigned in 1931...that's a historical fact. He was still on the board, but did not attend regular meetings and stayed on the board as more of a gesture of friendship than anything else. You also keep ignoring the fact that the Nazis seized the bank fro themselves in 1938....a good 4 years before it's business in the U.S. was seized and shut down. You also keep ignoring the fact that hundreds, if not thousands, of other German businesses were seized in the U.S. Many of them had no ties at all to the Nazi movement and were simply owned by a German company.
 

shiner

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Originally posted by: KAMAZON
We don't need another Ralph Nader in 2004.

LaRouche got over 20% of the Primarie votes in Alabama in the 2000 elections. Joe LIeberman and Al Gore nullifeid the 1965 Voters Acts Rights to kick LaRouche out, since he had enough to debate. He is the ONLY president that ran the platform of 2000 as 'there is no surplus, there is no economic boom, this is the worst global financial meltdown we are entering'. He has initiated a new global financial system based on the American System of Political Economy which has gained global support. Nader is a drug legalizing rich boy.
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Never mind....after reading UQ's post I don't need mine here...