And maybe some of us would rather make our money the honest way, instead of doing something that by all reports contributes to multiple criminal enterprises
Reports of a 837MHz base clock is disappointing. Are the reports of other brands with a 915MHz base clock still true?
Sure he did:
Ya and then I said if the Titan is 50% faster than 680, it would be just 40% faster than 7970Ghz at 1600P, which means Titan OC would likely be 60% faster than the stock HD7970Ghz. Hence the comparison of 60% faster HD7970 OC vs. stock 580 and 60% faster Titan OC vs. a stock 7970 Ghz. HD7970 carried a $100 premium for that 60% and Titan is carrying a $500 one over the 1Ghz 7970.
Ya and then I said if the Titan is 50% faster than 680, it would be just 40% faster than 7970Ghz at 1600P, which means Titan OC would likely be 60% faster than the stock HD7970Ghz. Hence the comparison of 60% faster HD7970 OC vs. stock 580 and 60% faster Titan OC vs. a stock 7970 Ghz. HD7970 carried a $100 premium for that 60% and Titan is carrying a $500 one over the 1Ghz 7970.
even at the time of release it was 20-30% faster especially at 1440p and had double the vram just for a 20% price hike
Do you know math?
100/84 = approx. 19% performance increase
lol..7970GE is a gimmick by AMD to make more money off of people who can't OC by themselves. I was able to get to 1GHZ with no manual voltage increase. Why didnt AMD just sell the original 7970 at a 1ghz clock? It is the same as a EVGA FTWOMGWTF card.....except for some reason it is acceptable to include it against true stock cards..
Still wrong.
7970s are better overclockers from day 1 and scale better.
if you compare a guaranteed oc on a 580 to a guaranteed oc on a 7970 with scaling then at 1440p the 7970 was easily 30% better
Btw this begs the question:
What are real applications for a graphics card that are marketed as gaming cards under the brand "Geforce" or "Radeon"? I would say it's primarily games. Sure you can run other stuff on them, but that is not the primary use case, so I would somewhat understand if that were not incluced in TDP calculation. Do you have a source that explains how Nvidia and AMD actually do this?
But this is a slippery slope I guess, no one could say for sure what AMD and Nvidia are thinking about this. I would assume they want people to buy their professional products if you're doing this type of workload.
GTX580 -> 680 (+35-40%) -> Titan (+50-60%). More than 2 years later but a price increase from $499 to $899.
Those numbers sure are nice and round.....50%, 60%........what games were used in determining those numbers? What were the settings being used? If they weren't exactly 50% and 60%, did you round up or down?
Goal posts have been moved.
BTW Fermi "scales" just fine with overclocking, I get 43% increase for 45% clock increase in titles I'm not cpu limited.
AMD's fault.
If this is the case, which is appearing more likely, this card will be a failure in my book. The performance would be nice (great), but it's merely a true generational update which should fall in its successors price range.
What a joke. Price/performance will be dismal and probably one of the most overpriced cards to date.
If it's only say 30-40% faster then a 7970 GE (if 50% more than the 680) and costs more than 200% I don't know how the NVidiots will defend this one.
Q.E.D. - There really is no argument that Titan isn't a money grab. Everyone who jumped to bash the 7970 for it should be jumping even harder to bash Titan, but of course you'll see the nvidia fanboys eat their words and try to deflect.Goal posts haven't moved. People on these forums don't ever want to admit HD7970 OC stomped the GTX580 OC so hard for $100-150 extra, it wasn't even funny. Don't forget that 3GB of VRAM was free. 6GB on the Titan is not an upgrade over 3GB on the 7970. >2GB on 7970 can actually be used in modern games with mods.
And in 3 monitor gaming, it was an absolute destruction for such a small price premium.
"Finally, the largest performance difference we've seen yet in our Radeon HD 7970 testing, the overclocked HD 7970 is a whopping 80% faster than the Galaxy MDT GTX 580, which itself is also overclocked for a GTX 580! That is simply massive."
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012...verclocking_performance_review/6#.USFVb6Uskeo
The Titan is bringing a $400-500 price premium over a 1Ghz 7970. Care to place your bets now that a Titan OC can be 50-80% faster than a 1300mhz 7970? Even if it is, HD7970 charged $100-150 for that and Titan is asking $400-500. It's way easier to accept that HD7970 OC brought far superior price/performance over the 580 than the Titan will over the 7970GE.
The Titan is bringing a $400-500 price premium over a 1Ghz 7970. Care to place your bets now that a Titan OC can be 50-80% faster than a 1300mhz 7970? Even if it is, HD7970 charged $100-150 for that and Titan is asking $400-500. It's way easier to accept that HD7970 OC brought far superior price/performance over the 580 than the Titan will over the 7970GE.
19% at 1600p, which is a bigger gap than 1200p, neither of which are anywhere close to 20-30% at 1440p.
Just facts, no need to get hostile.
Nobody cares about Performance/Price with Titan and your marketing crusade for AMD.
But i know that AMD is not responsible for the prices because they never increased the MSRP over the previous generation.
aaksheytalwar is right.
Was I realy just seeing the 7970 compared to the 580 instead of the 680?
What?