GeForce Titan coming end of February

[notty22]

And there are also cases such as the AMD 7950, introduced at 450.00 + dollars and coming with a simple cooling solution, that was fine for it's 800mhz launch specs.
Not much criticism expressed for this effort.

AMD Radeon HD 7950 Launch Recap Anands.

But would be less than optimum with the kind of o/c potential promoted in these forums for this gpu.

 

[Rvenger]

And there are also cases such as the AMD 7950, introduced at 450.00 + dollars and coming with a simple cooling solution, that was fine for it's 800mhz launch specs.
Not much criticism expressed for this effort.

AMD Radeon HD 7950 Launch Recap Anands.

But would be less than optimum with the kind of o/c potential promoted in these forums for this gpu.

I can certainly agree that the 7950 ref cooler was definitely lacking. They should have went with a blower cooler which they did for the OEM HD 7950s. It could have been the AIBs that opted for a cheaper cooler to maximize profit margins. Notice the 2x 6pin connectors. It actually looks like the picture RS posted above regarding the 7970, I think he actually linked a card that was wrongly labeled a 7970.

 

[Keysplayr]

hehe. Lots of AMD pics being posted in this Titan thread.

 

[notty22]

Looking back at reviews the 7950 reference non-blower, (really no blowers were offered) was good for close to 1ghz, maybe not always, and probably never in crossfire. It relied as much on size than complexity. As far as heat pipes and vrm- memory cooling.

 

[SirPauly]

I cant believe ppl discuss about "reference" coolers/heatsinks/fans etc.

Would enjoy seeing the reference cooler/heatsink/fan of Titan!

 

[blackened23]

I think it's going to be very similar to the one used on the 690 - which was a great cooler all things considered. Vapor chamber, single large fan and exhaust from both sides.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

Are the nda's expected to lift on Tuesday?

 

[Will Robinson]

hehe. Lots of AMD pics being posted in this Titan thread.

And by Notty no less.....ah the irony.:whiste:

 

[Keysplayr]

Doesnt matter.

 

[2is]

I think it's going to be very similar to the one used on the 690 - which was a great cooler all things considered. Vapor chamber, single large fan and exhaust from both sides.

690 has to giant sinks on oposite sides of the card, one on top of each GPU. That same design would be far less efficient Considering there's only one GPU on Titan.

 

[RussianSensation]

But would be less than optimum with the kind of o/c potential promoted in these forums for this gpu.

Not a single person on our forum recommended those 7950 cards for air overclocking. No one made a fuss about those coolers you linked? You must be joking or once again reverting to revisionist history. Even before this February 14, 2012 article was up, reference HD7950 cards were highly discouraged. In fact, the day this Jan 31st review was up at AT, people on these forums recognized that Sapphire's Dual-X 7950 could exceed a reference 7970. It was the card to get, and it sold out shortly on Newegg because people were told to stay away from XFX and especially the reference 7950 card. Let's not make up facts now.

It actually looks like the picture RS posted above regarding the 7970, I think he actually linked a card that was wrongly labeled a 7970.

Reference blower 7950 and 7970 had an identical cooler. Doesn't change the points I made regarding reference blowers and the comparison to the much higher quality cooler on the 690 vs. HD7970/680's coolers.

 

[DooKey]

hehe. Lots of AMD pics being posted in this Titan thread.

Yep, the usual bitcoin loving folks. Mods should close this thread. VC&G is the laughing stock of the internet because of the fanbois.

 

[RussianSensation]

Yep, the usual bitcoin loving folks. Mods should close this thread. VC&G is the laughing stock of the internet because of the fanbois.

The discussion led to the Titan's reference cooler design. Nothing wrong with comparing the much higher quality of GTX690's cooler to that of inferior GTX500/600/HD7000 reference cards. The usual crowd once again misinterpreted this as NV vs. AMD instead of seeing the global picture of comparing the excellent reference cooler on the 690 against the usual NV/AMD reference designs. The implication was that the Titan's noise and temperature characteristics may not be loud/hot just because it has a reference cooler since it more than likely the Titan's reference cooler will end up of much higher quality than the $500 flagships' from either camp. If you found this discussion biased in any way, especially the references regarding GTX690's heatsink approaching the quality of Thermalright/Prolimatech quality (a compliment), you are simply not following the context of what is being discussed closely or just following the herd that as of late sees NV vs. AMD in everything. I suppose it's much easier to follow the herd and label people fanboys rather than practicing reading comprehension and thinking for yourself.

 

[DooKey]

The discussion led to the Titan's reference cooler design. Nothing wrong with comparing the much higher quality of GTX690's cooler to that of inferior GTX500/600/HD7000 reference cards. The usual crowd once again misinterpreted this as NV vs. AMD instead of seeing the global picture of comparing the excellent reference cooler on the 690 against the usual NV/AMD reference designs. The implication was that the Titan's noise and temperature characteristics may not be loud/hot just because it has a reference cooler since it more than likely the Titan's reference cooler will end up of much higher quality than the $500 flagships' from either camp. If you found this discussion biased in any way, especially the references regarding GTX690's heatsink approaching the quality of Thermalright/Prolimatech quality (a compliment), you are simply not following the context of what is being discussed closely or just following the herd that as of late sees NV vs. AMD in everything. I suppose it's much easier to follow the herd than practice reading comprehension.

I follow no herd. I'm a video card fan regardless of who makes it. I don't let bitcoin fever guide my thoughts.

 

[Plimogz]

670 is a cut mid-range card, it's cooler is more than enough to cool such a dinky card.

To say that the 670/680 are mid-range cards is only fair if you consider that the top end of the range is GK110. So, looking back, you might respond to all those discussions about top-end 7970 Vs "mid-range" 680 by pointing out that it is taking NV a year to release the "actual" high-end of their lineup.

That said, it's really pretty absurd to call a $350, next-to-best single GPU card, mid-range. In my book, mid-range is what goes on between $180 and, say $280.

Besides which, it really doesn't matter where in the lineup a card falls with regards to its reference cooler. Cooling scales with power and thus influences noise. A better cooler will allow for extra overclocking capacity, ideally at a lower noise-level. I really can't see price-point being a necessary consideration in it, given that some customers may only need lower performance but still wish to enjoy quiet operation and/or better free OC performance increase.

 

[tviceman]

Because the perpetuated myth that blower coolers are more preferable continues.

No one is getting upset or perpetuating anything here. Someone commented on Nvidia's cards being too loud and hot, and I merely countered that with sound proof from various sites showing nvidia's reference cards are indeed actually quiet in many / most cases, and certainly more so than AMD's over the past several years.

Whether you realize it or not, blowers are starting to become more important. I think I'm in a small but growing number of pc gamers who have moved or are moving to smaller form factors. I went from a Silverstone FT02B to a Temjin 08. I even had a sugo sg05bb and almost kept it. I'm sick of overly massive cases with useless 5.25 bay slots or retardedly large atx motherboards with an absurd amount of PCIe slots. I want power and overclocking in a smaller setup. In this regard, the growing number of gamers who realize that you don't need a full sized tower to get a powerful PC, blower coolers may in fact be important to them.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

I like the blower style, personally.

I hope we see a 690 like design with 1 blower style fan.

 

[Rvenger]

I like the blower style, personally.

I hope we see a 690 like design with 1 blower style fan.

Me too, I prefer it especially in dual card situations.

 

[Elfear]

I follow no herd. I'm a video card fan regardless of who makes it. I don't let bitcoin fever guide my thoughts.

Maybe you're just miffed that you missed out on making easy money. ()

 

[3DVagabond]

I LOL'ed.

Then I post this link:

http://techreport.com/review/21516/inside-the-second-a-new-look-at-game-benchmarking

And then I find my ignore button....some people are just not worth the effort.

Oh dude. You just lost. You may have missed it being a new reg, but this entire forum was recently ablaze showing exactly the opposite of what you just said.
Search for any Tech Report threads and enlighten yourself before posting anything like this again. Just a suggestion. /peace.

Even TR said not to call their frame rate report micro stutter because it's not the same thing as what occurs with AFR, and that's what micro stutter has been associated with.

Also, a word on words. Although I'm reading a Google translation, I can see that they used the word "microstuttering" to describe the frame latency issues on the Radeon. For what it's worth, I prefer to reserve the term "microstuttering" for the peculiar sort of problem often encountered in multi-GPU setups where frame times oscillate in a tight, alternating pattern.

Here we continue to have them used not just interchangeably, but people actually using the TR reviews and AFR micro stutter as one in the same. You two are definitely knowledgeable enough to realize the two aren't the same. This is simply misrepresenting what TR reported.

 

[boxleitnerb]

So? The point was that fps isn't all that counts, be it single GPU or AFR.

 

[badb0y]

I hope they add support for PLP setups in Surround gaming.....SoftH doesn't work with DX 11 .

 

[RussianSensation]

In this regard, the growing number of gamers who realize that you don't need a full sized tower to get a powerful PC, blower coolers may in fact be important to them.

This is why the myth perpetuates. Real world testing/experience continues to disprove that blower fan coolers are better for even smaller cramped cases as long as those cases have a reasonable amount of airflow. Modern ones do.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33695147&postcount=10

PC enthusiasts think that blowers are better but it is not supported by scientific evidence unless the case has atrocious airflow or specific mounting where the card is nearly completely flush against the case's wall. One of the best small cases today, Lian-Li TU200B, uses a 14cm intake fan which minimizes noise and maximizes airflow intake for the location of the graphics card. This ensures that cool air is drawn from the outside and exhausted out of the back. In a modern small case a power hungry card like a 6950 can operate at just 70*C at very quiet noise levels courtesy of the after-market open air cooler.

 

[3DVagabond]

So? The point was that fps isn't all that counts, be it single GPU or AFR.

So? They aren't the same thing. Referencing TR when talking about dual GPU, AFR microstutter is wrong. The TR reports don't reference it at all. They don't belong in an AFR discussion.

 

[Will Robinson]

So? The point was that fps isn't all that counts, be it single GPU or AFR.

Oh but it will once Titan[ic] is released...have no doubt.:hmm: