GeForce GTX 650Ti "Boost" Leaked Info

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sontin

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It seems i miss something:
That card is as fast as the 7850 and uses the same power. The 7970Ghz is ~10% faster than the GTX680 and uses 35% more power.

Hm, i don't get it, really...
 

wand3r3r

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Cool buckets :)

A real review this time, from a trusted site.
So its about ~3% faster than a 7850 (stock).
Damn thing is like ~25%+ faster than a 7790 (stock).

Pretty decent card, faster than I thought it would end up.

AMD should have clocked the 7790 abit higher on the GPU side, that card is so powereffecient, it probably could have been acceptable by consumers and it d have been a slight bit faster.

7790 takes a serious beating by this 650ti boost.

It clearly beats the 7790 by quite a bit, but is slower than the 7850.

http://anandtech.com/show/6838/nvidia-geforce-gtx-650-ti-boost-review-/14
The performance of the two cards is close at times, but ultimately the GTX 650 Ti Boost spends most of its time trailing the 7850 to some degree, its only lead being in Battlefield 3. With those BF3 results pushing the cards to within 5% of each other on average, otherwise the gap is closer to 8%. As such the GTX 650 Ti Boost is unquestionably the weaker card in our benchmarks, just not significantly so. So for it to be priced under the 7850 is the right move here.

Just have to see where the retail prices actually fall (and game bundles).

Wasn't the 7790 going for the $150 range? It looks like it just got pushed down.
 

wand3r3r

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It seems i miss something:
That card is as fast as the 7850 and uses the same power. The 7970Ghz is ~10% faster than the GTX680 and uses 35% more power.

Hm, i don't get it, really...

It's slower than the 7850 while consuming more power. Try spin this. :p

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wand3r3r

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It clearly beats the 7790 by quite a bit, but is slower than the 7850.

http://anandtech.com/show/6838/nvidia-geforce-gtx-650-ti-boost-review-/14

The performance of the two cards is close at times, but ultimately the GTX 650 Ti Boost spends most of its time trailing the 7850 to some degree, its only lead being in Battlefield 3. With those BF3 results pushing the cards to within 5% of each other on average, otherwise the gap is closer to 8%. As such the GTX 650 Ti Boost is unquestionably the weaker card in our benchmarks, just not significantly so. So for it to be priced under the 7850 is the right move here.

Just have to see where the retail prices actually fall (and game bundles).

Wasn't the 7790 going for the $150 range? It looks like it just got pushed down.

You are right, it's really slower

nvidiots r us

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Yeah you failed as an NV promoter... Too bad.
 

sontin

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So, i failed because i showed you the FPS from Battlefield 3 which Anandtech used to measure the power consumption of the cards?
 

Keysplayr

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I know right? It will probably suck down more juice than even two 7970s at the rate Nvidia's 6 series are just gluttonous when consuming power.
Seriously though, it would be nice to discuss this 650Ti Boost without the AMD crappers.
 

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Does anyone have Bioshock Infinite benchmarks with this card? I'm looking at picking up a cheap new GPU for use in my second system while the first one is busy, but I'm not really interested in playing any of the games in the current Anandtech suite.
 

ICDP

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This is an excellent card for the price. It makes the overpriced (here in the UK) and underperforming HD 7790 look like the waste of space that it is. Brillaint to see Nvidia do something other than play it safe the way AMD planned with the 7790. Trades blows with the 7850 performance for a lower price, this is how competition should work.

AMD had planned to release the 7790 at a price where no competitors existed and they have been foiled.
 
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Olikan

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It seems i miss something:
That card is as fast as the 7850 and uses the same power. The 7970Ghz is ~10% faster than the GTX680 and uses 35% more power.

Hm, i don't get it, really...

sight...

i made several post about this.... the 7970 was like a learning chip for the new process, what amd learned, they aplied to the 78xx and 77xx cards...

no wonder that the 7790 have the best perf/watt on the market....it was the last sku done, it is the most optimazed card that amd could do, from what they learned

nvidia does the same.... titan have awesome perf/watt than Gtx 680, why? same reason ;)
 

Arkadrel

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This is an excellent card for the price. It makes the overpriced (here in the UK) and underperforming HD 7790 look like the waste of space that it is. Brillaint to see Nvidia do something other than play it safe the way AMD planned with the 7790. &859 performance for a lowr price, this is how competition should work.

AMD had planned to release the 7790 at a price where no competitors existed and they have been foiled.


This card, the GTX 650ti Boost is a 170$-180$ card.
The 7850 is around 180$ now.

That means you save about ~0-10$ and gain like 2-3% performance, compaired to the 7850.

However the 7850 overclocks much much better.
So if plan to not overclock, the 650ti boost seems like better value.

If you plan to overclock, the 7850 might be a better deal.
Esp if it comes with a game you like ei. new bioshock or such.


I wouldnt say its "this is how competition should work",
this is more like a side grade to a 7850 and around the same price.
 

ICDP

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This card, the GTX 650ti Boost is a 170$-180$ card.
The 7850 is around 180$ now.

That means you save about ~0-10$ and gain like 2-3% performance, compaired to the 7850.

However the 7850 overclocks much much better.
So if plan to not overclock, the 650ti boost seems like better value.

If you plan to overclock, the 7850 might be a better deal.
Esp if it comes with a game you like ei. new bioshock or such.


I wouldnt say its "this is how competition should work",
this is more like a side grade to a 7850 and around the same price.

Looking at the 650Ti boost from a specifications/performance standpoint it doesn't bring anything new to the party. It trades blows with 7850 2GB for a ~similar price but the rest of the lower end Nvidia GPU prices and especially the overpriced HD 7790 have to lower prices to compete. My point being that the AMD HD 7790 was just being slotted in to a gap with the 1GB 7850 being dropped.

The 7790 is significantly slower than the HD 7850 1GB for the same price here in the UK. AMD planned to slot the 7790 into a nice little safe position where it actually gave consumers less performance for their money. The 650Ti boost scuttled that plan before it even got implemented.
 

crisium

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Ooooh. I didn't know they were upping the ROPs. That really helps the performance a ton! I, uh, call shenanigans and refuse to eat my hat!

Very nice performance. I agree that it is a worthwhile alternative to the 7850 for those who do not overclock and play more Nvidia favoured games. Max OC, 7850 wins unless you get a lemon.

Still, not bad! Pricing should get interesting in April. The 7790 > 650 Ti and the 650 Ti Boost = 7850 should get us some price drops. Or not, considering the long going price stagnation at the under $200 market.
 

Arkadrel

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Ooooh. I didn't know they were upping the ROPs. That really helps the performance a ton! I, uh, call shenanigans and refuse to eat my hat!

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....Bon appetit



Anyways you ended up loseing by about ~3% :)

Granted that differnce can depend on which titles are tested,
but I believe TPU mix is pretty fair on both sides.
 

Rvenger

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So, i failed because i showed you the FPS from Battlefield 3 which Anandtech used to measure the power consumption of the cards?


Nice cherrypicking. AMD will never look good in your eyes so why even bother?


I owned the GTX 660 and now I have a TF3 HD 7850. I paid $50 less for my 7850, I got 2 awesome games, and I don't notice a difference between the 2 cards performance wise.
 
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wand3r3r

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According to the AT review the 650 TI Boost is ~5-8% slower than the 7850.
Are you reading it's faster?

I think ICDP hit the only main point being that it will force the HD 7790 to be priced a little lower.

If the price is $170 it's only $10 less than the 7850 but 5% slower and doesn't even come with a free game much less 2.

At this point I don't see anything worth recommending it for when it's within $10 of the 7850 which comes with 2 free games while being faster (the 7850 that is).
 

crisium

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Tom and TPU both have the 650 Ti Boost being faster than the 7850 on average at 1920 res.

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It's really a draw overall though.
 

Durvelle27

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Tom and TPU both have the 650 Ti Boost being faster than the 7850 on average at 1920 res.

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It's really a draw overall though.
Only 3% faster and its clocked at 1033MHz/1502MHz

where as the HD 7850 is clocked at 925/1200


:colbert:

the HD 7850 can easily overclock and put this card to shame
 

Keysplayr

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According to the AT review the 650 TI Boost is ~5-8% slower than the 7850.
Are you reading it's faster?

I think ICDP hit the only main point being that it will force the HD 7790 to be priced a little lower.

If the price is $170 it's only $10 less than the 7850 but 5% slower and doesn't even come with a free game much less 2.

At this point I don't see anything worth recommending it for when it's within $10 of the 7850 which comes with 2 free games while being faster (the 7850 that is).

Well, Techpowerup begs to differ. LOL

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_650_Ti_Boost/25.html

As does Computerbase

http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/2013/nvidia-geforce-gtx-650-ti-boost-im-test/9/

@ 2% to 4% better performance on average over 7850.

Purdy dern gUd for a GPU that was expected to be dusted by a 7790. :colbert:

I seldom read AT reviews anymore.

@ Crisium: Some Salt -n- Pepper with your hat? Or perhaps a dash of tobasco? ;)
 
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Arkadrel

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I expected it to be faster than the7790.
But I expected it to be somewhere in the middle between the 7790 and the 7850.

So Im pleasently surpriced by its performance.
I dont think its price/performance is anything special though,
its equal to what the 7850 is atm (170$-180$).

Its power consumption is much higher than the 7850s.
Im not sure if it has any game bundles with it.
The 7850 overclocks much better.

Stuff like that makes the 7850 seem like better value,
and thats something people can/could of bought ages ago.
 

parvadomus

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So they finally fill the gaps:
7790 come to counter 650TI. => kills 650TI, even with better perf/watt
650TI boost come to counter 7850. => they are on par, 7850 edges out in perf/watt, but needs to lower its price (or maybe not? as it completely destroys 650TI with OC?).

I dont understand NV move, they counter small die's with GK106, and they gpus underdeliver, AMD has to adjust prices now..
 

Keysplayr

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Only 3% faster and its clocked at 1033MHz/1502MHz

where as the HD 7850 is clocked at 925/1200


:colbert:

the HD 7850 can easily overclock and put this card to shame

They can both overclock Durvelle. But out of the box, the 650Ti Boost appears to have the upper hand. 2GB of mem is a plus as well.
 

Enigmoid

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Only 3% faster and its clocked at 1033MHz/1502MHz

where as the HD 7850 is clocked at 925/1200


:colbert:

the HD 7850 can easily overclock and put this card to shame

The 7850 is clocked at 860 mhz so the price/performance curve falls even more in its favour when oveclocked. The two are basically the same within margin of error. Less than 5% is basically insignificant.