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Are you coming from XP? You act like typing the name (or partial name) of an application to open it is new thing. Windows 7 has this, I think even vista does.
And yes, we all (or most of us) know we can place short cuts on metro. Kind of defeats the point of having a clean desktop. I like my wall papers that make my PC uniquely mine and keep a rather clutter free desktop. Using metro is like going back to Windows 3.11, both the feel and the limited multi-tasking that comes with using it. No point to upgrade to W8 if I'm not going to use Metro considering W7's desktop looks a whole lot better.
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cmdrdredd
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I'm not talking about metro though. I'm talking about desktop mode.
WHY WHY WHY WHY does everyone equate everything in windows 8 with metro!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Windows 8 desktop > windows 7 desktop since it's smoother and smarter with a more powerful task manager and such.
Whatever...it's a damn lot better than Windows 7 at certain things. That's enough.
Metro or not, the feature you seem to be bringing up the most (typing in a name of a file or application) isn't unique to Windows 8. Like I said, I think even Vista had this so I'm not sure why you're so excited about something that's several years old. I'm also not sure what you mean by "smoother" desktop, I have W8 installed on one of my machines and it's not any smoother, just uglier. Sounds like you're just making up random stuff to me. And if there's a difference in startup/shut down times, I certainly haven't noticed them.
At least you got the task manager part right, it does have a better task manager. It'll need a lot more than that for me to switch over. Not a fan of Metro and the desktop mode doesn't look at good. Combine that with the fact you'll still get kicked out to Metro from time to time weather you like it or not and well... Like you said, that's enough (to not switch)
At least you got the task manager part right, it does have a better task manager. It'll need a lot more than that for me to switch over. Not a fan of Metro and the desktop mode doesn't look at good. Combine that with the fact you'll still get kicked out to Metro from time to time weather you like it or not and well... Like you said, that's enough (to not switch)
cmdrdredd
Lifer
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I'm not saying it was unique and I never once said that in any post I've made so why you keep bringing up that is beyond me. I'm saying that people are complaining about no folders in the start menu and crap like that. Use the search bar, it's what it's for!
You never get kicked to metro ever. Once your in desktop unless you hit the proper key combo to go back to metro you are in desktop mode. Some apps only work in Metro but those are quite obvious.
You trying to troll or something? Major fail dude. All of your arguments are petty and really quite stupid. A 5 year old could make a better argument.
Yes, my arguments are petty... I can't come up with strong argument like you... You know, bragging about W8 features that Vista has and oh yeah, Task Manager.
Why are you getting so offended by people not liking Windows 8? Not everyone is going to agree with you. If I had kids, I may give them what they want if they cried about it, you on the other hand will just have to accept it, your crying isn't going to convince anyone who isn't already convinced.
Why are you getting so offended by people not liking Windows 8? Not everyone is going to agree with you. If I had kids, I may give them what they want if they cried about it, you on the other hand will just have to accept it, your crying isn't going to convince anyone who isn't already convinced.
Talking about W8 desktop..why do you think its better without the Start menu ?
Oh, you don't ? Then you agree there's no reason for it not to be there..
LOL_Wut_Axel
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Just run Start8 or Classic Shell and you'll be fine.
Makes the experience better than Win 7 due to the new features.
Makes the experience better than Win 7 due to the new features.
That doesn't address the problem..which is Microsoft using the pc os to sell phones and tablets, there's no other explanation for shipping a crippled desktop.
Its just marketing.
LOL_Wut_Axel
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Let's be simple here.
As a desktop user... why should I pay $$$ for Win8 when I'm happy with Win7? What's the SIGNIFICANT benefit?
As a desktop user... why should I pay $$$ for Win8 when I'm happy with Win7? What's the SIGNIFICANT benefit?
That's the thing it's NOT really missing the start menu. Every choice from the start menu, plus some, are still there in the same basic spot. The only thing missing is the All Programs list.
The All programs list is the Start Screen.
As for Windows 8 Search, yes, it was present back in vista - the old 'Search Programs and Folders' box at the bottom of the start menu. Same basic thing. However, i think 8's approach for it works better. It's still in the start menu, the charms bar, the start screen, and via a windows key.
Yeah, with the RTM version, Start Menu is still there. At least, it was for me. There's no visible button, but if you move to the lower left corner where the Start button used to be, you'll see a tiny representation of the new Start Menu pop up and if you left click, you get the full Start Menu. I don't know if that's new, I don't remember it being there with the Developer Preview or Consumer Preview.
I don't like the Start Menu being fullscreen though. I don't like Metro apps being fullscreen either. You should be able to ALT+ENTER and toggle between fullscreen and windowed. It's called "Windows", shouldn't there be... windows?
I don't like the Start Menu being fullscreen though. I don't like Metro apps being fullscreen either. You should be able to ALT+ENTER and toggle between fullscreen and windowed. It's called "Windows", shouldn't there be... windows?
start8 from stardock.. gets rid of metro 100% and turns windows8 into a much faster version of Windows7. and costs only 5 bucks
windows 8 is far superior across the board to 7 in pure speed.
It hardly "sucks"
Not only is there (as far as I can tell) no significant benefit to drive people to upgrade, there are downgrades that make users actually lose functionality for "upgrading". The supposed 'benefit' of the metro UI is a non-starter for me, it's garbage. I can't see any rational reason why anyone would pay to 'upgrade'.
Is there some significant increase in speed that I'm not aware of? On one of my PC's startup time dropped by 6 seconds, on the other it was roughly the same. I see no difference in performance in games or apps. What's the significant speed increase you're referring to?
It IS faster, don't know how significant it is, since I doubt I'd notice 5-seconds faster boot time and although video encoding is faster, I don't do that too often and when I do, I leave it and go do other things.
Here are some benchmarks:
http://www.zdnet.com/windows-8-vs-windows-7-benchmarked-7000002671/
The key word was "significant". Yes, it is slightly quicker in some things. The startup time I think is good, but I don't see any other significant differences that the user would actually notice and really benefit from. My personal experience was that I didn't notice any difference in "day to day" stuff.
ViRGE
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I'm only going to ask once, guys. Take it down a notch. A lot of you have strong opinions and that's fine, but comparing each other to children and accusing others of trolling is not something I'm going to tolerate here. This is a technical forum and you are adults, so you need to act like it.
-ViRGE
-ViRGE
I agree, and I didn't notice too much difference in "day to day" stuff either. I didn't even really notice the faster startup time so much because I tend to turn on my PC and take a bathroom break or grab a snack, so that 5-seconds doesn't mean much.
However, it is faster, and I think that alone will be enough reason for some people to upgrade. Probably more for the reason of fulfilling a psychological need to have the fastest Windows possible rather than any significant performance benefit.
I don't have as many complaints as others. I just wish they could have at least left aero as an option. Not enjoying the new look at all.
Either I got some really crappy copies of windows 8 or some really awesome copies of windows 7 because there is no appreciable difference in speed, in anything. Not booting, not shutting down, not launching apps, not finding apps, nothing... Sounds like another one of those make-believe features.
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