#Gamergate, the war on nerds, and the corruption of the left and the free press

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blankslate

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Yes, they literally took a swipe at gamergate in thor

Despite that the current run is selling more than the previous one so far.

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/03/20/looks-female-thor-outselling-her-predecessor

According to sales data from Comichron, last month’s Thor #5 weighed in as the 11th-bestselling comic for February with 69,513 issues sold. (You might remember that comic for the way it poked fun at the book’s critics.) Compare that to where the Bro-Thor led Thor: God of Thunder was with its issue #5, at 33rd place with an estimated 51,861 comics sold. That’s almost a 20 percent increase.

Pretty cool that comics audiences like the audience for video games isn't the stereotypical pasty basement dweller.

Here are some comic fans talking about it on a comic book forum
http://community.comicbookresources...g-to-shut-down-diverse-comics-(Salon-Article)

Good article about an attack on comics we have to recognize and one of the right wing figureheads that is stirring it up. Annoyingly spells Steve Rogers wrong, but the rest makes interesting points.

My only argument would be that right-wing parasites, misogynist Men's Rights activists and opportunistic grifters were the ones who STARTED "Gamergate" and people who seemed to have concerns about journalistic ethics were the ones that "latched on" (hopefully to be incredibly appalled at the people they'd allied themselves to).

yomv though...

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0roo0roo

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Despite that the current run is selling more than the previous one so far.

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/03/20/looks-female-thor-outselling-her-predecessor

Its not surprising, you can drive temporary sales through controversy and by appealing to people who will not sustain their interest. Nintendo learned a lesson from trying hard to attract casuals during its wii fit days, many were bought, to gather dust, owners never buying another game again, in other words, an attach rate of basically nothing.

Comic book sales haven't been healthy for a long time from what I've heard, they no longer sell millions a run. I'm not into comics so I don't know the details, but pandering to such audiences isn't a good idea in the long run.


Pretty cool that comics audiences like the audience for video games isn't the stereotypical pasty basement dweller.

Here are some comic fans talking about it on a comic book forum
http://community.comicbookresources...g-to-shut-down-diverse-comics-(Salon-Article)

yomv though...

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Oh, the Matt Binder article, the guy is so far to the left the average democrat to him is a conservative.

If his ideas really had support,they wouldn't be attacking current media, they would be promoting their own alternatives in order to both rake in the cash and to control the medium. Instead what you see is the attempt to impose their politic in media, and games like "revolution 60" completely failing in the market.

The Emperor Has No Clothes #GamerGate #NotYourShield
Sargon of Akkad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqwQqrlClbY
Published on Oct 22, 2014
Matt Binder, along with the entire bat-shit insane extreme progressive movement who are opposed to #GamerGate work on fear, lies and character assassination bred of the intellectual corruption of academia.


The War on Men Hits the Mainstream Media
Sargon of Akkad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKlrOBPorUA

#Shirtstorm Bindered - Part 1
SkepTorr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_s4c_etraM

#ShirtStrom Bindered - Part 2
SkepTorr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa3hNgVuSFU


Inclusivity in comic books
veemonro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQLJuzALKvw


Salon like much of the leftist media has become a joke. They went from Christopher Hitchens to Matt Binder, and people like Arthur Chu
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People who are "hyper" obsessed over the weight of words, and yet...
 
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Skel

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Despite that the current run is selling more than the previous one so far.

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/03/20/looks-female-thor-outselling-her-predecessor



Pretty cool that comics audiences like the audience for video games isn't the stereotypical pasty basement dweller.

Here are some comic fans talking about it on a comic book forum
http://community.comicbookresources...g-to-shut-down-diverse-comics-(Salon-Article)





yomv though...

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I'm interested in seeing the sales of Thor once they solve the 'mystery' of who the female Thor is. I'm not saying people don't like the book, though I would point out it helps when Thor (the male one) is still in the book taking up a good chunk of the story. Also, Comicbookresources.com is really heavy handed with the ban you if you don't agree mentality. This is the site that 'publishes' all the blogs where the authors will tell you how jacked up the big 2 publishers are because they don't have enough gay people on the covers.
 

0roo0roo

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Well Internet Aristocrat has come back

Hallowed Halls: Dalhousie University
MisterMetokur
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im25MN5AwIc
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http://theralphretort.com/the-artis...-aristocrat-returns-as-mistermetokur-3028015/
https://twitter.com/MisterMetokur

My thoughts about the return of Internet Aristocrat/ Mister Metokur/ Jim
MundaneMatt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiWT7sSnqsI

Apparently this is the new thing from the anti gg people
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ShutTheFuckUpTotalBiscuit?src=hash
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because of this
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Total biscuit said something reasonable
https://soundcloud.com/totalbiscuit/pillars-of-transphobia
so people freaked out
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And btw the sjw vision for games?
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http://archive.today/7t8Au
Founder of the IGDA


Brianna Wu finally made me snap
veemonro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pepr4GuW2ng
http://theralphretort.com/brianna-wu-loses-her-shit-spawns-piegate-3027015/


Dead Gamers Talking March 28: Vidya Edition
NEET LIFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei3ASDitzLs


Pretzels and Tea podcast 10
by Kelvin Matarie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Veo8hUTJya4



The #GamerGate Debate
BlackPreon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuifeVFpUwQ


#Gamergate discussion
Cire Padela
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6ghyLq5mjM

And Leigh Alexander is now ebegging
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and being a dick about it
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Careful, calling people out on being assholes online is tone policing, and I hear tone policing is sexist (or at least this person says so http://ameliagreenhall.com/posts/what-it-was-like-to-co-found-model-view-culture-with-shanley-kane)

Funny thing is Shanley Kane cropped up in the #ThankYouEllenPao or whatever it was hashtag, and was cited in one of those ludicrous articles trying to reframe the loss as a women's issue.
*edit found it
https://archive.today/9cjII
USA Today citing tweets from Randi Harper, Brianna Wu and Queen Shanley
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Exophase

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This whole matter of shouting transmisogyny over people being unhappy to find out their sexual partners have genitalia they didn't anticipate is totally off the rails. It's almost as bad as this group of people wanting HIV positive people to no longer have any responsibility to tell their sexual partners about their HIV.

Yes, if you find out your sexual partner has an unexpected penis or vagina there's no justification for hurting them in retaliation (or worse). But it is completely understandable if you're upset, feel traumatized, and never want to see them again. To say otherwise is not really any different from saying that gays and lesbians are bigots for not wanting to engage in straight sex and not being happy if tricked into it. Or that they should be okay if the other person is butch or femme enough, regardless of gender identity.

Note I use rejection of vaginas pretty tentatively since I've never heard anyone dare utter "transmisandry", lest you get this sort of horeseshit http://checkingoftheprivilege.tumblr.com/post/82768719342/transmisandry
 

brycejones

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This whole matter of shouting transmisogyny over people being unhappy to find out their sexual partners have genitalia they didn't anticipate is totally off the rails. It's almost as bad as this group of people wanting HIV positive people to no longer have any responsibility to tell their sexual partners about their HIV.

Yes, if you find out your sexual partner has an unexpected penis or vagina there's no justification for hurting them in retaliation (or worse). But it is completely understandable if you're upset, feel traumatized, and never want to see them again. To say otherwise is not really any different from saying that gays and lesbians are bigots for not wanting to engage in straight sex and not being happy if tricked into it. Or that they should be okay if the other person is butch or femme enough, regardless of gender identity.

Note I use rejection of vaginas pretty tentatively since I've never heard anyone dare utter "transmisandry", lest you get this sort of horeseshit http://checkingoftheprivilege.tumblr.com/post/82768719342/transmisandry

Is this bunch coming after the video games as well?
 

Exophase

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Is this bunch coming after the video games as well?

Not that I know of?

I was responding to something in 0roo0roo's last post (which was about someone's reaction to game content). Yeah I know you guys think they're insufferable walls of text that no one reads and should get this thread locked and him banned or whatever, but if you're not reading everything in the thread you might not have the context for someone's replies...
 

werepossum

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This whole matter of shouting transmisogyny over people being unhappy to find out their sexual partners have genitalia they didn't anticipate is totally off the rails. It's almost as bad as this group of people wanting HIV positive people to no longer have any responsibility to tell their sexual partners about their HIV.

Yes, if you find out your sexual partner has an unexpected penis or vagina there's no justification for hurting them in retaliation (or worse). But it is completely understandable if you're upset, feel traumatized, and never want to see them again. To say otherwise is not really any different from saying that gays and lesbians are bigots for not wanting to engage in straight sex and not being happy if tricked into it. Or that they should be okay if the other person is butch or femme enough, regardless of gender identity.

Note I use rejection of vaginas pretty tentatively since I've never heard anyone dare utter "transmisandry", lest you get this sort of horeseshit http://checkingoftheprivilege.tumblr.com/post/82768719342/transmisandry
Well said. Although as far as reading 0roo0roo's posts, that is damned difficult and probably harmful, like trying to swim through a sewer. The one and only time I did, I was introduced to Shanley Kane, who is quite probably the most stupid person in the history of the human species. Besides having to watch a dozen Youtube banalities, my view of the world is forever darkened just knowing that she is in it.
 

Painman

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Holy Shit, this thread is still alive here?

What are y'all currently on about, is it the "transmisogynist" contributor quote in the latest Obsidian game? Ah, it seems so.

Let's see how that Left Coast/Tumblr ass bullshit plays in Peoria come Election time 2016. Can't wait to see a bunch of prairie ass, cishet white motherfuckers being told to check their privilege by the likes of Jonathan McIntosh.

In other news, Jim AKA Internet Aristocrat is back as MisterMetokur:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im25MN5AwIc

42 minutes long, but it's worth it. Canada is crying out for help.
 

BoberFett

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I wasn't aware of any of this crap until GamerGate became a big thing, but with the reading I've done, goddamn these Social Justice Warriors are horrible pieces of shit. The damage they attempt do to everything they touch from atheism to pop culture in the name of their own vanity and profit is disgusting. They're not interested in justice, they're interested in their 15 minutes of fame and making money off of shitty sites like Patreon by being professional victims.
 

Blue_Max

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In other news, Jim AKA Internet Aristocrat is back as MisterMetokur:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im25MN5AwIc

42 minutes long, but it's worth it. Canada is crying out for help.

Great link, thanks. I'd heard so much about the case but never the original messages these marching feminists have been screaming for blood over.

The original "hateful" messages are a lot gentler than what's said every day here on ATOT.

*sigh* foolish humans...

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Misogyny my ass. This was a group of guys who simply didn't grovel to or fear women enough. They also didn't "respect" their female classmates, despite the fact said classmates were unworthy of respect for all the solid reasons they gave, like whining crying and blaming so others will do their work for them, or get higher grades despite skipping much of the work, and hogging all the teachers' time so explain everything as if they hadn't learned anything in class at all.

The result? A mob attacking pretty much every male on campus, demands for bigger and better feminist campus facilities, and mandatory feminist "gender justice" classes for ALL students.

Pure insanity.
 
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0roo0roo

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Careful, calling people out on being assholes online is tone policing, and I hear tone policing is sexist (or at least this person says so http://ameliagreenhall.com/posts/what-it-was-like-to-co-found-model-view-culture-with-shanley-kane)

Yea, you know Ellen Pao is screwed when Shanley is on her side

Shanley GamerGate’s Next Target Is The Tech Industry:
https://archive.today/8AcBY





Great link, thanks. I'd heard so much about the case but never the original messages these marching feminists have been screaming for blood over.

The original "hateful" messages are a lot gentler than what's said every day here on ATOT.

*sigh* foolish humans...

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Misogyny my ass. This was a group of guys who simply didn't grovel to or fear women enough. They also didn't "respect" their female classmates, despite the fact said classmates were unworthy of respect for all the solid reasons they gave, like whining crying and blaming so others will do their work for them, or get higher grades despite skipping much of the work, and hogging all the teachers' time so explain everything as if they hadn't learned anything in class at all.

The result? A mob attacking pretty much every male on campus, demands for bigger and better feminist campus facilities, and mandatory feminist "gender justice" classes for ALL students.

Pure insanity.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/824-dalhousie-employees-make-more-than-100k-1.2725088
http://www.dal.ca/content/dam/dalho...FacultySalaries_Rank-and-YValue_2013-2014.pdf
http://www.dal.ca/dept/senior-admin...mic/reports/faculty-recruitment-salaries.html
You should see their salaries...




Anyways....
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http://archive.today/TuZDf
http://theralphretort.com/polygon-cleans-house-kuchera-out-too-3031015/
Ben Kuchera @polygon video games do not attract me anymore
Vee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXOmueh85zA

Emily Gera of polygon fired
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Now running patreon to clone her dog...
https://archive.today/a1As9

Bill Zoeker of Destructoid fired
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Josie Rizal Controversy, BloodBorne Patched, Bad Sony Customer Service, DMC4: SE Excuses + More!
EventStatus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD8uqtPhmqU


A Conversation with Veemonro
Sargon of Akkad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ8KGg7lIjk

At GDC 2015, IGDA Made No Effort to Resolve the #GamerGate Controversy
FollowTheCaptain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqmNWicDELo


Saturday Night Bullshit
G8an Satan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKKg-H-wPv0



[Gaming] Dear Obsidian, don't change the Firedorn Lightbringer memorial in PILLARS OF ETERNITY
MundaneMatt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HmGKj4gPN4
https://soundcloud.com/totalbiscuit/pillars-of-transphobia
http://theralphretort.com/sjws-pain...sphobic-over-censorship-disagreement-3029015/

Feminists are not here to censor your games except when they are
veemonro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Enhl3uxjJZE


Martyr and Nacho React to How to Be a Feminist
Video Culture Replay Blog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wJdA9loedQ


And Anita finally put out a new video which revealed just what kind of female portrayals are acceptable to her...
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Anita Sarkeesian vs. The Scythian
jordanowen42
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrN5Y9wMk0A

Blocked by Femenist Frequency for politely disagreeing with her. WTF?!
Amby Felix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7kfzPCoNO8

Brianna Wu circa 2013 was more reasonable
https://archive.today/zpwYr
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http://theralphretort.com/congresswoman-wastes-tax-dollars-meeting-with-zoe-cuckmaster-jr-402015/
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https://twitter.com/vidgamejournal/status/583557855200092160

and a peek behind the type of crazy behind the current A+ blockbot
Muslim lesbian, married to a straight man....
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https://archive.today/Pcl1O
http://everyoneisgay.com/aaminah-khan/
https://archive.today/3b92O
https://archive.today/HJtGe
https://archive.today/PVhKo
http://www.therainbowhub.com/you-are-why-we-need-a-block-bot/

And of course there was April Fools day...

Anita as usual lacks a sense of humor, and has a penchant for blocking women who dare to disagree with her.
https://twitter.com/CultOfVivian/status/583470882401550336/photo/1
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Why I'm a Feminist
LtSarge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3PRguHr8cQ

I'm not pro #Gamergate, I never was.
Queeny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_c3vCplTf0

Holy Hour: #Gamergate will burn in hell
Queeny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slasBwSTYIQ

Anita Sarkeesian Was Right
MrRepzion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OzxDFjMeeM

#Gamergate Is Dead!! -- Indie-Fensible (#AyyTeam)
ShortFatOtaku
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMqClUEtGHo
 
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0roo0roo

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http://theralphretort.com/emails-still-work-403015/
https://***********/@A_PLANT_/gamejournopros-who-left-changed-their-job-since-the-leak-43adafbaff59
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ANITA SARKEESIAN, YOU OFFICIALLY SUCK AT FEMINISM
The Amazing Atheist
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of course...




http://theralphretort.com/did-randi-harper-fake-a-swatting-403015/
Randi Harper caught lying and falsifying documents
Vee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTGzvFS3l6o
https://archive.today/DsOMu
Randi seems to have lied about her recent swatting, if anyone has any connections with the Oakland PD and can explain if this ticket is real or not that would be great
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Unfortunately Obsidian caved to censorship pressure
http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/20...-limerick-was-changed-by-backer-not-obsidian/
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GamerGaters#announcements/detail/190616066058453309

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Who is icequeenerika? The sjw's and feminists have known this for a long time and have basically been exploiting someone with severe issues for their own ends, its really despicable once you take a look at it. Katherine Cross works for Anita Sarkeesian, and they are just feeding this person false approval so she will do the dirty work for them. For all their high minded concerns, this is what they are actually doing behind the scenes.
http://archive.today/2rxoC
https://archive.today/w4oEw
https://archive.today/YM25g


Quinn and co proving they are deliberate trouble makers...
https://twitter.com/atlasnodded/status/583744466856636416
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http://theralphretort.com/techraptor-smeared-as-antisemitic-by-zoe-the-cuck-402015/

So much drama... chobitcoin is a seed account for the gg blocker
http://theralphretort.com/beautiful-day-anti-gamer-forces-turn-on-each-other-402015/
White Knight Fury
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/655578
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Yep that happened
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Poe's law
GAMERGATE PROVES MAJORITY OF MALE GAMERS ARE RAPISTS
https://archive.today/QmZfc

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http://time.com/3747734/time-100-poll/vote/48/?xid=socialshare-poll/



Pretzels and Tea podcast 11 (the real one)
Kelvin Matarie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOuiZUz6-zI

#GamerGate Random WTF Happenings Zan Gone Full /pol/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2QoN2oZd9Q


Shootin' the shit stream 03/04/2015
Dr. Layman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljsLdvZRROQ


http://time.com/3747734/time-100-poll/vote/48/?xid=socialshare-poll/

old stuff
Game Jam
http://pressfarttocontinue.com/2015/01/05/game_jam/
http://archive.today/D5ALw
The Fire Rises
Box
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDxeFwmGnSs
The True Story of #gamergate
Godzilla Gate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdaTp9KL7PA

bonus crazy
https://www.swedishweekly.com/feminist-goes-crazy-when-compared-to-swedish-nationalist/
https://twitter.com/Hanna__Lindholm/status/581931540051058688
You may have seen the picture, but I don't think you've read the blog...
http://ladydahmer.nu/
 
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Blue_Max

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I chuckle to myself about how quickly Sarky is aging, and how Zoe has doubled in size over the last couple years.

It seems fame (or notoriety at least) isn't helping them any. ;)
 
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I chuckle to myself about how quickly Sarky is aging, and how Zoe has doubled in size over the last couple years.

It seems fame (or notoriety at least) isn't helping them any. ;)

A snark about a woman aging and another one about a woman gaining weight. But it's all about ethics, right?
 

Blue_Max

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A snark about a woman aging and another one about a woman gaining weight. But it's all about ethics, right?

I haven't given a crap about the "journalism" (which is wasn't) from the beginning. These "great feminist heroes" have been deceitful, manipulating, attacking all opposition with fury, and bawling crocodile tears as a shield from opposition since the very beginning. Great warrior one moment, frail abused victim the next. Manipulate the drooling idiot masses by whipping up emotions then directing them to your cause (and purse.)

Ethics. *snerk* Feminists like these know nothing about ethics - journalism or otherwise.

And, yes, it's amusing how very quickly these public figures are degrading under the spotlight. :)
 
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I haven't given a crap about the "journalism" (which is wasn't) from the beginning. These "great feminist heroes" have been deceitful, manipulating, attacking all opposition with fury, and bawling crocodile tears as a shield from opposition since the very beginning. Great warrior one moment, frail abused victim the next. Manipulate the drooling idiot masses by whipping up emotions then directing them to your cause (and purse.)

Ethics. *snerk* Feminists like these know nothing about ethics - journalism or otherwise.

And, yes, it's amusing how very quickly these public figures are degrading under the spotlight. :)

No, don't look at me! Look over there! No! Over *there*! No! Over *there*!

mutter mutter feminists mutter muslims mutter mutter
 

DucatiMonster696

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In other news:

Sabrina Rubin Erdely is sorry for pushing a story filled with false and patently wrong information about an alleged case of rape at U.Va. Of which this claim of rape was proven false and the students cleared by police. However despite this information she did not change her story and even defended it when other reporters started tearing giant gaping holes into her article and showing just how wrong she was with this story.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/04/05/rolling-stone-rape-author-apology/25328225/

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/a-rape-on-campus-what-went-wrong-20150405
 
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Blue_Max

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No, don't look at me! Look over there! No! Over *there*! No! Over *there*!

mutter mutter feminists mutter muslims mutter mutter

Okay, you got your shaming in. Care to actually make a statement and stand by it instead of criticizing every viewpoint you disapprove of?

That'd be a first for you...

...but then you know very well that to have an opinion or take a stance means facing criticism for it. You've masterfully planned how to avoid that; shame and insult those with opinions you don't like, avoid making a statement of your own. Stick with the popular thinking trends of the day and you'll be a hero among the college liberal girls. Goody for you.
 
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Okay, you got your shaming in. Care to actually make a statement and stand by it instead of criticizing every viewpoint you disapprove of?

That'd be a first for you...

...but then you know very well that to have an opinion or take a stance means facing criticism for it. You've masterfully planned how to avoid that; shame and insult those with opinions you don't like, avoid making a statement of your own. Stick with the popular thinking trends of the day and you'll be a hero among the college liberal girls. Goody for you.

You're a caricature of a caricature. You don't really exist. Nobody could exist with the degree of victimhood that you've embraced. Shame on you for trolling us all this time.

You're probably a 23 year old undergrad named Naomi and you're from Wichita.

This is your Honours project in Women's Studies isn't it.