#Gamergate, the war on nerds, and the corruption of the left and the free press

[Nebor]

I chuckle to myself about how quickly Sarky is aging, and how Zoe has doubled in size over the last couple years.

It seems fame (or notoriety at least) isn't helping them any.

I also find this pretty entertaining. No matter how much complaining and attention whoring they do for their broken version of feminism, they're still becoming worse and worse in the most obvious female performance metric: looks.

 

[norseamd]

http://wccftech.com/pillars-eternity-developer-obsidian-bombarded-twitter-user-limerick/

 

[shortylickens]

Because it's just a daily dump from a crazy person.

They never lock your threads, do they?

 

[mikeymikec]

I also find this pretty entertaining. No matter how much complaining and attention whoring they do for their broken version of feminism, they're still becoming worse and worse in the most obvious female performance metric: looks.

Wow, either you're incredibly shallow and sexist or you're just incredibly shallow.

In case it needs explaining, shallow in that you think the most obvious performance metric is one's looks (male or female), or shallow and sexist in that it just counts for women in your opinion.

 

[norseamd]

In case it needs explaining, shallow in that you think the most obvious performance metric is one's looks (male or female), or shallow and sexist in that it just counts for women in your opinion.

Well in my opinion it does count for everyone but I am not him so not sure what his opinion is on that shit. There are obvious reasons why looks are influential.

Edit: Also looks are not the only criteria for someone and they are not necessary outside of courtship.

 

[Smoblikat]

Wow, either you're incredibly shallow and sexist or you're just incredibly shallow.

In case it needs explaining, shallow in that you think the most obvious performance metric is one's looks (male or female), or shallow and sexist in that it just counts for women in your opinion.

How is being attracted to someone sexist?

Its completely natural and normal to judge people by their looks first.

 

[Exophase]

I also find this pretty entertaining. No matter how much complaining and attention whoring they do for their broken version of feminism, they're still becoming worse and worse in the most obvious female performance metric: looks.

People like you are the ones all the misogyny shouting should be focused on.

 

[mikeymikec]

How is being attracted to someone sexist?

Its completely natural and normal to judge people by their looks first.

You think that Nebor is attracted to Anita Sarkeesian? Interesting premise, please elaborate.

 

[Nebor]

Well in my opinion it does count for everyone but I am not him so not sure what his opinion is on that shit. There are obvious reasons why looks are influential.

Edit: Also looks are not the only criteria for someone and they are not necessary outside of courtship.

Good looking people get paid more.

Overweight women get paid less.

 

[Nebor]

Wow, either you're incredibly shallow and sexist or you're just incredibly shallow.

In case it needs explaining, shallow in that you think the most obvious performance metric is one's looks (male or female), or shallow and sexist in that it just counts for women in your opinion.

A good looking women can transcend socioeconomic strata with ease. With no other discernible skills, a woman born to a single mother waitress can be driving a Ferrari and living in a mansion based solely off of her looks. There is no such parallel path for men, regardless of how good looking they are.

If you're a young woman, and you are overweight, you are squandering your best "earning" years by not being at peak attractiveness during your most marketable years. This seems pretty straight forward to me. I'm not making any judgments about whether the world should or shouldn't be this way, I'm just saying that it is.

 

[norseamd]

Good looking people get paid more.

Overweight women get paid less.

Yah obviously looking nice is often beneficial to you in most life circumstances. Keep in mind we tend to be a society of numbers and often the most attractive men and women can sometimes be at a disadvantage because there is tons of envy and jealously in not only our society but world history also. That said is it actually necessary to look nice to fulfill most of those jobs? One notable exception might be customer relations and socializing jobs where you might want to have the looks that do not cause much reactions in potential clients and customers which can also mean you might not want the most beautiful women as it is going to cause negative reactions that she only got her job because she is beautiful and that she has no skill or ability despite whatever the real truth is about her and her work skill and conduct.

 

[Exophase]

A good looking women can transcend socioeconomic strata with ease. With no other discernible skills, a woman born to a single mother waitress can be driving a Ferrari and living in a mansion based solely off of her looks. There is no such parallel path for men, regardless of how good looking they are.

There are lots of exceptional/unusual attributes that can get people much better than average opportunities, even if they were born to single mother waitresses. While a very attractive woman may have more ability to exploit her looks than a very attractive man, there are still not an awful lot of Ferrari buying husbands to go around and such women would surely be in competition with other very attractive women, and at risk of being cast aside for the next better one. And some (a lot?) of people would rather settle for less things but accomplish more than being someone's trophy.

If you're a young woman, and you are overweight, you are squandering your best "earning" years by not being at peak attractiveness during your most marketable years. This seems pretty straight forward to me. I'm not making any judgments about whether the world should or shouldn't be this way, I'm just saying that it is.

So if you don't spend hours a day to maintain "peak" attractiveness you're squandering your best earning years, simply because on average better looking people make more money in some jobs (and let's forget any of that correlation != causation stuff and not think about how appearance and confidence might interact)? Think maybe there could be a tradeoff here?

 

[Blue_Max]

Wow, either you're incredibly shallow and sexist or you're just incredibly shallow.

In case it needs explaining, shallow in that you think the most obvious performance metric is one's looks (male or female), or shallow and sexist in that it just counts for women in your opinion.

...and yet one of your favorite arguments are that GG'ers are "fat, pimply, basement-dwelling losers."

Pot, kettle, black? Mmmm?

 

[Nebor]

There are lots of exceptional/unusual attributes that can get people much better than average opportunities, even if they were born to single mother waitresses. While a very attractive woman may have more ability to exploit her looks than a very attractive man, there are still not an awful lot of Ferrari buying husbands to go around and such women would surely be in competition with other very attractive women, and at risk of being cast aside for the next better one. And some (a lot?) of people would rather settle for less things but accomplish more than being someone's trophy.



So if you don't spend hours a day to maintain "peak" attractiveness you're squandering your best earning years, simply because on average better looking people make more money in some jobs (and let's forget any of that correlation != causation stuff and not think about how appearance and confidence might interact)? Think maybe there could be a tradeoff here?

While there aren't an awful lot of Ferrari buying husbands to go around, and competition for them is fierce, the same basic principle applies further down the socioeconomic chain, where the distribution is fatter. In case you aren't familiar with #tagyoursponsor from earlier this year, thousands of women on instagram got outed trading sex for vacations & gifts. Just your average, every day chicks.

This is absolutely crucial to the debate on ethics in journalism. :biggrin:

 

[norseamd]

...and yet one of your favorite arguments are that GG'ers are "fat, pimply, basement-dwelling losers."

Pot, kettle, black? Mmmm?

Well shit this is exactly why everyone knows why the anti-GG side is total shit. No I do not identify as GG but I am not against GG.

 

[mikeymikec]

...and yet one of your favorite arguments are that GG'ers are "fat, pimply, basement-dwelling losers."

Pot, kettle, black? Mmmm?

When did I say this?

 

[Nebor]

When did I say this?

10:46 AM March 12th 2015.

 

[Blue_Max]

10:46 AM March 12th 2015.

 

[BoberFett]

N/M...

 

[Subyman]

How is being attracted to someone sexist?

Its completely natural and normal to judge people by their looks first.

I agree, but those first few moments when you see them shouldn't color your perception of them past that initial moment, once they start to reveal who they are. IE, you should be able to move past the looks and understand who they are as you get to know them.

That is ideal, but I'm not ignorant enough to know that is not how it typically works.

 

[Exophase]

While there aren't an awful lot of Ferrari buying husbands to go around, and competition for them is fierce, the same basic principle applies further down the socioeconomic chain, where the distribution is fatter. In case you aren't familiar with #tagyoursponsor from earlier this year, thousands of women on instagram got outed trading sex for vacations & gifts. Just your average, every day chicks.

There's no great mystery that people can have success trading sexual favors for something else, the entire age-old prostitution industry is based on this. And yes, there's (much) more demand for women than men.

But that doesn't mean that this is a dominant factor for most women or that appearance is the most important performance metric to women as you put it. For every woman trading sexual favors to men for some form of shallow compensation there must be a man willing to do so in return. That's hardly a statement about or against men in general. Most people look for sex in mutually fulfilling and reciprocating relationships of some form.

It's crazy (and shallow, and sexist) to suggest that all women are foolish for not putting all of their efforts into their looks, something which might under some circumstances enhance opportunities in ways that could be completely uninteresting or even detrimental to them, at the cost of not spending that time on other things that do matter to them.

Well shit this is exactly why everyone knows why the anti-GG side is total shit. No I do not identify as GG but I am not against GG.

I go with the anti-anti-GG side

 

[Painman]

So, "Operation Earthquake" happened, which was basically an organized attempt by GG to trend the twitter hashtag #AreYouBlocked.

It was... somewhat successful, it trended for a few hours, but there's still much to be learned about the algorithm over there.

It generated 3 positive and prominent blog/news articles, anyway:

http://theothermccain.com/2015/04/1...est-gamers-lesbian-feminists-the-pope-and-me/
(Yes, FREAKING POPE FRANCIS was on the Blocklist for "transphobia")

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/04/10/how-authoritarian-activists-are-censoring-twitter/

http://reason.com/blog/2015/04/10/areyoublocked#.hxyvzk:jhrb

 

[Blue_Max]

Why red pills? Because of more and more of this:

 

[fskimospy]

Holy shit, are you guys admitting to being members of /r/theredpill?

For the rest of the people here if you're looking for some pure, hilarious crazy go check that sub out. Also maybe /r/thebluepill if you want to see the red pill's highlights.

The red pill is an awesome collection of incredibly angry manchildren blubbering about how picked on they are by the world because women are mean to them.

 

[norseamd]

No that is not what they actually said. First one seems like the obvious joke satirizing your SJW reactions. Not sure what the attitude of the 2nd guy is so you can ask him if you want.