Also, Mance Rayder has some sort of Wildling army of 100,000? That seems to be a problem with the story because there just isn't anything to eat much north of the wall.
I think she said hundreds and thousands, not a hundred thousand. Math isn't a strong point amongst the wildlings.
For the show, they liked the look of Icelands mountains. In the book there was still some forests nearby, at least at their first encampment, which was on a hill near the woods.
So there is elk, bear, roots, fish, and near the coast seals and walruses to eat. The wildlings also took all their livestock with. Food isn't exactly abundant, but they aren't starving yet.
He was the high priest of the faith of the Seven. An important position, but not an important character. The peasants are starving because of the war, and he was grossly obese.
He was the high priest of the faith of the Seven. An important position, but not an important character. The peasants are starving because of the war, and he was grossly obese.
Yeah I feel the show hasn't really shown how miserable and hungry the people in King's Landing have become. It was a very strong theme in the book (yet the show showed merchants offering fish and fruits as if all is well couple episodes back.)
Not sure I like some of the changes they're making.
What's up with this plot of Jon and Ygritte lost together? Only thing I can figure is that they're going to have them fall in love now, instead of after he joins the wildlings.
And,
dafuq with having the dragons stolen? Perhaps theyre using it as the reason she destroys the House of the Undying instead of using a long and potentially confusing vision scene.
Also, Osha is hot (fap fap), and I look forward to seeing more of Ygritte.
They have dropped most of the prophecies and dreams in the show. So I expect that location to have a fight scene instead. At least we'll get to see Jorah, and maybe Aristan Whitebeard in action.
That was never part of the book and is the biggest thing different about it from this episode but it looks like we are guessing the warlocks they talked about before.
the TV series simply cannot give the back story that is interwoven throughout the novels without at least 2 more episodes per season as well as perhaps the actors narration of the character's thoughts (not always well done).
It's not a matter of coddling... although prove
by reading at least the first book.
the TV series simply cannot give the back story that is interwoven throughout the novels without at least 2 more episodes per season as well as perhaps the actors narration of the character's thoughts (not always well done).
As much as I love Donaldson, good luck with that. They don't seem likely to greenlight a series that starts with the hero raping someone. But I guess you never know.
As much as I love Donaldson, good luck with that. They don't seem likely to greenlight a series that starts with the hero raping someone. But I guess you never know.
yeah, its mostly that the changes sort of escalated to the dragons getting stolen, which was the biggest change, but it also sort of made the other changes feel more significant because it was a reminder just how many changes their have been, it makes me really wonder just what they have in store for the future.
In otherwords I'm almost at the point where I'm almost expecting these changes to create a butterfly effect that might take the TV series totally off course from the books.
the point is that TV shows will always seem to be coddling the viewer if it is based on a well written novel. In the case of a story spanning several books that get longer as the book series progresses some things will have to be left out. If you consider my off the cuff comment going to war you probably need to relax.
There is a good deal of back story in the books missing from the television series. Although the producers have added a couple of nice touches that were impossible to have in the books due to the point of view structure of the narration.
For example when Ned whispers Baelor to the Night's Watch member in the crowd and then he looks to the statue of Baelor to see Arya sitting on it's base.
At least read the first book and you'll get a lot of back ground that is barely hinted at in the first season.
Particularly the fact that Ned never says Jon is his son... and the way he looks away from King Robert when asked about Jon's mother when they are traveling on the King's Road southward to the capital city
That is more fleshed out in the novels and may explain why they're changing some of the story lines when they lead to characters having dreams or visions.
As much as the first two Trilogies of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever are my favorite fantasy series. My favorite chapter is still "Lord Mhoram's Victory"
Game of Thrones by George R.R. Martin matches them in brilliance imo. And I'll have to read the Last Chronicles and the final books of Game of Thrones before I can say which is better. I suspect that I'll still hold Mr. Donaldson's books as my favorites even if Mr. Martin's novels may turn out to be technically better because of the existential conflicts that Covenant goes through are more interesting to me. However what I like about both authors is that they are willing to be exceptionally brutal to their characters in order to tell a better story.
I think that Pheran is right. I've talked to a couple of avid fantasy readers who couldn't get past the first few chapters of Lord Foul's Bane. They're missing out...
I think that Pheran is right. I've talked to a couple of avid fantasy readers who couldn't get past the first few chapters of Lord Foul's Bane. They're missing out...
We're getting a little off topic, but re: Martin and Donaldson, see my post on heavy fantasy. If you haven't read Bakker yet, you are in for a treat. I still need to get off my butt and read Malazan.
That interview with GRRM was right on. He does outline a problem I have with the books. I am 2/3 done with book 5 and it seems every chapter of most every book is:
Dude 1: "We need to get from point A to point B"
Dude 2: "Lets go"
* obstacle lands them at point C *
Dude 1: "Fffffuuuuccckkkkk"
I loved book 3 but book 4 and so far book 5 are a total chore.
the point is that TV shows will always seem to be coddling the viewer if it is based on a well written novel. In the case of a story spanning several books that get longer as the book series progresses some things will have to be left out. If you consider my off the cuff comment going to war you probably need to relax.
There is a good deal of back story in the books missing from the television series. Although the producers have added a couple of nice touches that were impossible to have in the books due to the point of view structure of the narration.
For example when Ned whispers Baelor to the Night's Watch member in the crowd and then he looks to the statue of Baelor to see Arya sitting on it's base.
At least read the first book and you'll get a lot of back ground that is barely hinted at in the first season.
Particularly the fact that Ned never says Jon is his son... and the way he looks away from King Robert when asked about Jon's mother when they are traveling on the King's Road southward to the capital city
That is more fleshed out in the novels and may explain why they're changing some of the story lines when they lead to characters having dreams or visions.
As much as the first two Trilogies of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever are my favorite fantasy series. My favorite chapter is still "Lord Mhoram's Victory"
Game of Thrones by George R.R. Martin matches them in brilliance imo. And I'll have to read the Last Chronicles and the final books of Game of Thrones before I can say which is better. I suspect that I'll still hold Mr. Donaldson's books as my favorites even if Mr. Martin's novels may turn out to be technically better because of the existential conflicts that Covenant goes through are more interesting to me. However what I like about both authors is that they are willing to be exceptionally brutal to their characters in order to tell a better story.
I think that Pheran is right. I've talked to a couple of avid fantasy readers who couldn't get past the first few chapters of Lord Foul's Bane. They're missing out...
That interview with GRRM was right on. He does outline a problem I have with the books. I am 2/3 done with book 5 and it seems every chapter of most every book is:
Dude 1: "We need to get from point A to point B"
Dude 2: "Lets go"
* obstacle lands them at point C *
Dude 1: "Fffffuuuuccckkkkk"
I loved book 3 but book 4 and so far book 5 are a total chore.
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