Game of Thrones - TV Series (NO BOOK SPOILERS)

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BladeVenom

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Book 5 gets better.
What by ending with a bunch of cliffhangers?

Victarion was the saving grace of that book. He gets half way around the wold in two chapters. He is also brutally entertaining. Finally,
he's the one who is going to get the plot and Dany moving.
 

blankslate

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What by ending with a bunch of cliffhangers?

Victarion was the saving grace of that book. He gets half way around the wold in two chapters. He is also brutally entertaining. Finally,
he's the one who is going to get the plot and Dany moving.

That might be a book spoiler since as far as I know that character hasn't been introduced in the show yet, however I agree. It should move the plot along nicely and I hope that since things are accelerating that Mr. Martin will find it easier to write the 6th book more quickly.

also MORE BOOK SPOILERY
I think George R.R. Martin is waiting until Daenerys brings her dragons to Westeros before having the Others move south. I wonder how Sir Barristan Selmy as well as Dany will react to Tyrion, Jorah, and Victarion since it seems that they might all meet up soon.
 

mcurphy

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Book 5 gets better. I found the introduction of characters in 4 and 5 to be annoying at this point in the series.

I've been stuck on Book 4 for over a year now after breezing through the first 3 in just a couple weeks. :(

The new characters is what is really throwing me off, and it has lost my interest. I need to pick the book back up one of these days and force myself to get through it so I can finally read book 5.
 

glen

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I've been stuck on Book 4 for over a year now after breezing through the first 3 in just a couple weeks. :(

The new characters is what is really throwing me off, and it has lost my interest. I need to pick the book back up one of these days and force myself to get through it so I can finally read book 5.

You know, 4 and 5 are really the same book?
Basically, 5 has the characters who are in Westeros, and 4 has all the rest like Danries, Mormont, etc..
 

Red Storm

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I've been stuck on Book 4 for over a year now after breezing through the first 3 in just a couple weeks. :(

The new characters is what is really throwing me off, and it has lost my interest. I need to pick the book back up one of these days and force myself to get through it so I can finally read book 5.

Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how the show's audience will handle the book's... aptitude for leaving characters midway through development and onto others.

It's actually very annoying, which is why the latest book was quite the chore to read.

Might as well change the name from Game of Thrones to Tyrion's Tales.
He's the only damn character that feels invincible to me, like there's no way Martin is going to kill him
.
 

mcurphy

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You know, 4 and 5 are really the same book?
Basically, 5 has the characters who are in Westeros, and 4 has all the rest like Danries, Mormont, etc..

Yeah, I am aware of that. The Westeros characters are my favorite, Arya, Jon, and Tyrion. I can't wait to get back to their stories!
 

purbeast0

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awesome how a thread titled HBO TV series has so many spoilers of the story of parts that haven't even aired yet do to talking about future parts of the book, which may or may not be spoilers in the show, which we won't know until that part of the story passes.

this thread is turning more annoying to read/possibly spoiler filled than the walking dead one did.
 

SirStev0

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I just finished book four. To be honest, I think I read it the fastest.
The new chars they added were quick read for me because they were new. The Chars already established who are now getting their own spotlight were quick for me because it seemed like all the craziness happened to them or during their chapters.

with that said.
I fucking hate Cat Stark more than any other person in the book. As a char she is boring and just whines constantly in her inner monologues. Everything she does just fucks things up. I think the TV series actually made her too likeable. As Stoneheart she is making me even more pissed off.
 

SirStev0

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Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how the show's audience will handle the book's... aptitude for leaving characters midway through development and onto others.

It's actually very annoying, which is why the latest book was quite the chore to read.

Might as well change the name from Game of Thrones to Tyrion's Tales.
He's the only damn character that feels invincible to me, like there's no way Martin is going to kill him
.

Marten has always said Tyrion was his fav char and his fav to write for. I have a theory that he is going to be 1 of the three heads they keep talking about. With Bran as the other. That or one of the Krakens.

As far as Jon Snow, I have a theory I wanted to talk about with someone about his birth,
Does anyone else think that he isn't Ned Stark's son. I am afraid to google because I don't want too many spoilers. I have a feeling the thing Ned kept "remembering" about what he promised his sister is that he will take care of her child, Jon. As to who the father might be, I was thinking it could easily be Robert, though as Arryn kept mentioning his seed is strong. That would leave Rheagar, which would be an interesting twist. They keep saying Jon looks the most like Ned but that could be because him and his sis looked so similar. I really want them to expand more on why the fuck Rheagar kidnapped his sister. They mention it but only in passing. Really it is what started the rebellion.
I know they talk about Ned and his first love from that tourney but I still don't buy it. And He is insistent on not talking about Jon's mom. And regrets it hard on the steps as he is being executed.

What do some of you experts think?
 

mcurphy

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Before I click, I am only just finished book 4. Is it too soon to start snooping?

Hmm, good question. I haven't even finished 4 yet, but I didn't think there were any major spoilers. It does mention some things I am not familiar with, so I don't know if it is material I haven't read yet, or just some things I don't remember from what I have read.
 

blankslate

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What do some of you experts think?

Another detail in the first book but not mentioned too much in the series (if at all) Book Spoiler even if it's from book one is that
Jon looks most like Arya and Arya is said to look more like Lyanna than any of her brothers or sister. The other kids all look more like they take after their mother in looks. So if Jon looks like Arya, it's a fairly big "makes you go hmmmm...." detail

You might want to read this article SirStev0
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/10/a...-george-r-r-martin-novels.html?pagewanted=all

considering the very minor hints about your question that are in the series. Exactly two that I've noticed.

The first is when the party leaving Winterfell splits into the group going to the Wall and the group going to King's Landing and there is a short conversation. Then another where two old war buddies reminisce and one of them looks away when the conversation touches on a sensitive subject.

The first was winning over Mr. Martin in a lunchtime meeting that was mostly collegial, but where Mr. Weiss and Mr. Benioff were quizzed about the parents of Jon Snow, a “Game of Thrones” character of mysterious lineage. (“We had a whole conversation about it,” Mr. Benioff said, “and George was pleased that we got the answer right.”)
 
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cKGunslinger

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great episode.


the crowd tore an arm off some guy ( a priest or something ). was he important in the books?

No, he was just some priest that was there to bless the princess on her journey. In the book, he was "so fat he could scarcely walk" and was also killed by the crowd. Tyrion made some comment about a fat priest waddling among the starving citizens of his castle was not the best idea. :awe:
 

randomrogue

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The series is terrible. They aren't even in the same ballpark as the books. I really should stop watching it.
 

Merad

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The very popular theory is that...

Jon is the son of Lyanna and Rhaegar

I kind of wonder if
Jon and Dany may end up married and ruling together. I feel sure that Lyanna is Jon's mother. Not so sure that Rhaegar is the father (there has been too much emphasis on Jon's Stark -possibly Baratheon?- features as opposed to the emphasis placed on Dany's Targaryen features). Either way it would work, I think. It unites the dragons with the Night's Watch to oppose the others. If Jon is Targaryen, it fits the theme of them marrying brother to sister. If he is Baratheon or [...], it could still be seen as re-unifying Westeros by joining the re-established Targaryen (Dany) with the old ruling force (Jon).
 

Jinru

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I kind of wonder if
Jon and Dany may end up married and ruling together. I feel sure that Lyanna is Jon's mother. Not so sure that Rhaegar is the father (there has been too much emphasis on Jon's Stark -possibly Baratheon?- features as opposed to the emphasis placed on Dany's Targaryen features). Either way it would work, I think. It unites the dragons with the Night's Watch to oppose the others. If Jon is Targaryen, it fits the theme of them marrying brother to sister. If he is Baratheon or [...], it could still be seen as re-unifying Westeros by joining the re-established Targaryen (Dany) with the old ruling force (Jon).

Have you read ADwD?
At this point I think Dany will be paired with a certain someone who makes a debut in that book.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Have you read ADwD?
At this point I think Dany will be paired with a certain someone who makes a debut in that book.

I don't, that's too simple. I think his faction will wind up opposing Daenerys because they're not going to want to share.