What do you want to make a bet that Littlefinger will be there making the case why it should be given to him.just poor ol' Gendry
presumably, the Crown will give Dragonstone and Storm's End to another family like they gave the North to the Boltons.
Seems that way. I can't really blame Olly. He's a kid who saw his parents killed by the same people Jon is now working with. He doesn't understand the bigger picture and he really only got information on one side of the story, from the other mutineers.Is Olly now more hated than Joffrey? I would think so--at least Joffrey was entertaining.
I'm wondering if that's one reason the show has diverged almost completely from the books, so GRRM can modify it on the fly when people think they've got it figured out.I think that most fan theories go out the window if Jon Snow is really dead, forever. He's also the only likable character in the show with the right skills to command men and temperament to govern a kingdom. Kill Dany, hook up Jon and Tyrion with command of Dany's armies, conquer the north, and take the south.
Basically, this means GRRM will kill him and shit on his corpse.
Thing is it wouldn't be "slowly conquering everything in its way towards America". It would be "they're 50 miles from the border". Looking at the Map, to get to Hardhome they're practically at Craster's keep.Seems that way. I can't really blame Olly. He's a kid who saw his parents killed by the same people Jon is now working with. He doesn't understand the bigger picture and he really only got information on one side of the story, from the other mutineers.
I think that in the real world, it would be a pretty big controversy. Imagine if we built a huge wall between the US and Mexico, Mexico invaded and killed everyone in southern Texas, and then the President told everyone we're letting them through because Brazil is slowly conquering everything in its way towards America. You think everybody would just go along with him?
Joffrey was a twisted sociopath, so he had an excuse.Is Olly now more hated than Joffrey? I would think so--at least Joffrey was entertaining.
All the interesting characters are either on the wrong continent or dead. By which I mean Arya and Tyrion. There are still lots of people around, I just don't care about any of them. Reek and Sansa? Who gives a shit. Brienne and Pod? Meh. Littlefinger? No. Melisandre? Get the fuck out. Bronn used to be interesting, but the Dorne story was just pointless. The Boltons, the Lannisters, King's Landing, Castle Black... I couldn't give less than a shit about any of it. Arya and Tyrion are basically all I care about beyond ice zombies and dragons, and one of them just got blinded. So I agree, it feels like the glory days are in the rear view.Bah, i keep having this feeling the best of this show is behind us now. All that's left is for the Dragons to fight the white walkers...yay
Maybe im just pissed they killed off Jon Snow
Well when it comes to arya I think its possible she leaves the faceless men and returns to settle scores.All the interesting characters are either on the wrong continent or dead. By which I mean Arya and Tyrion. There are still lots of people around, I just don't care about any of them. Reek and Sansa? Who gives a shit. Brienne and Pod? Meh. Littlefinger? No. Melisandre? Get the fuck out. Bronn used to be interesting, but the Dorne story was just pointless. The Boltons, the Lannisters, King's Landing, Castle Black... I couldn't give less than a shit about any of it. Arya and Tyrion are basically all I care about beyond ice zombies and dragons, and one of them just got blinded. So I agree, it feels like the glory days are in the rear view.
Okay, so Stannis is definitely dead, as I thought. Why didn't they show Brienne lopping his head off, then?The writers cleared some stuff up...
http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/06/game-of-thrones-finale-cliffhangers
Apparently they thought it would be gratuitous given the brutality of the rest of the episode. I wonder if these writers remember what show they're writing for lol.Okay, so Stannis is definitely dead, as I thought. Why didn't they show Brienne lopping his head off, then?
They showed Arya's execution of Meryn Trant, which was fucking brutal, but they couldn't show Stannis dying?
Here's a book spoiler....I don't think he'd announce himself.
I seem to recall the explanation being something like, "We felt that Stannis already had a band enough day at that point, so no reason to add to it. You pretty much understand what happened."Apparently they thought it would be gratuitous given the brutality of the rest of the episode. I wonder if these writers remember what show they're writing for lol.
I bet a couple of the characters who appear dead/out aren't. Too many loops to close at once. Not one loop was permanently closed, even though the assumption is they won't make it past whatever event in that episode.All the interesting characters are either on the wrong continent or dead. By which I mean Arya and Tyrion. There are still lots of people around, I just don't care about any of them. Reek and Sansa? Who gives a shit. Brienne and Pod? Meh. Littlefinger? No. Melisandre? Get the fuck out. Bronn used to be interesting, but the Dorne story was just pointless. The Boltons, the Lannisters, King's Landing, Castle Black... I couldn't give less than a shit about any of it. Arya and Tyrion are basically all I care about beyond ice zombies and dragons, and one of them just got blinded. So I agree, it feels like the glory days are in the rear view.
You must have only read as far as the first sentence in my post, so I'll try to make my position clearer: I only care about Arya and Tyrion. I realize there are dozens of other characters and plotlines going on. I personally have lost interest in every single one of them. I care about exactly four things: Arya, Tyrion, White Walkers, and Dragons. Everyone you listed? I do not give a single solitary shit. I don't care about Theon or Sansa or Jon or Stannis or Brienne or Cersei or Margaery or Loras or Daenerys. I used to. I've lost interest.I bet a couple of the characters who appear dead/out aren't. Too many loops to close at once. Not one loop was permanently closed, even though the assumption is they won't make it past whatever event in that episode.
Arya isn't out of the game because she's blind. It's temporary or she will get some other powers that makes her a blind bad ass. Something will happen that allows her to continue.
Theon/Sansa aren't dead, survived the fall.
Jon gets revived.
Stannis was given mercy when he said "do your duty", Brienne somehow didn't think it was her duty to kill him, instead it was personal so she didn't.
Cersei will recover and get power again.
Margaery and or Loras survive prison/trial.
Dany isn't captured.
Pick two of those and you're probably right, with the obvious conclusion holding for the rest.
You might have hit the nail on the head and why some of this season was seen as "filler" even though it was pushing the story along. It just wasn't doing it the way previous seasons were. Either way I certainly missed the pairing this season.Actually, I think I've figured out what it is. This show is at its absolute best when it takes two people who don't really belong together and puts them in an awkward pairing, generally involving travel.
More than 2Arya isn't out of the game because she's blind. It's temporary or she will get some other powers that makes her a blind bad ass. Something will happen that allows her to continue.
Theon/Sansa aren't dead, survived the fall.
Jon gets revived.
Stannis was given mercy when he said "do your duty", Brienne somehow didn't think it was her duty to kill him, instead it was personal so she didn't.
Cersei will recover and get power again.
Margaery and or Loras survive prison/trial.
Dany isn't captured.
Pick two of those and you're probably right, with the obvious conclusion holding for the rest.
Have they lied before?The show writers said stannis is dead (or maybe they're lying!)
The actor playing Jon Snow said the people on the show, not sure if it was producers, writers, whatever - but anyway, he said that they told him to go home, his part was over.Have they lied before?