Game of Thrones - TV Series (NO BOOK SPOILERS)

[bunnyfubbles]

Uh, all that showed was that Jamie was fighting honorably and Bronn was fighting to win. In fact Bronn bluntly stated this lesson after the fact. Jamie appeared to be holding his own sword-wise, forcing Bronn to improvise.

Seems the issue of Jamie's fighting ability is one of those weird literary paradoxes where an outcome is "obvious" only to those who weren't paying attention.

no, all it showed was that Jaime was trying to improve his ability with his left hand to where it would actually be serviceable, and as soon as he got somewhat competent with it, Bronn decided to be a shitter and remind him that in a real fight Jaime still isn't quite ready as its taking 100% of Jaime's attention just to be competent with his left hand let alone have enough confidence to fight beyond that. Jaime is by no means a strictly "honorable" fighter, he'll take any advantage he can get.

Which supports my argument. Jamie was getting noticeably better over time.

To spell it out:
1. Jamie complains to Tyrion that he can't fight with his left and can't find a trainer.
2. Tyrion reccomend Bronn.
3. Jamie trains with Bronn, gets his ass handed to him.
4. Jamie trains with Bronn, gets his ass handed to him a little less.
5. Jamie trains with Bronn, holds his own with the sword and forces Bronn to improvise. Hence the grin on his face when he successfully blocked Bronn right before Bronn grabbed his fake hand.

I'm willing to admit that he isn't good enough to take on the mountain yet, but I was kinda WTF at the "couldn't beat a stableboy" line given that sequence of events.

there's this thing called exaggeration that people use. Clearly he could beat a "stableboy", he just feels like that's where he's at compared to his former self where he felt he was hands down the best in the world by a long shot - he was his sword hand...cutting it off was perceived to be the worst thing that could have been done to him outside of killing him.

saw 1/2 the episode so far. a few things:

1) scene with the Mountain side by side with Cercei looked CHEESY!
omg horrible special effects.

since in real life the actor that plays the Mountain is actually 400+ lbs, why didn't they just show him next to her naturally w/o the gimmicks.
it still would have given the point of how big he is.

no "special" effects, just a low camera angle

2) the new guy playing the Mountain cant act.
yeah, I understand he's not an actor but winner of the Strongman competition. but still... yeesh

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its cute that he has 1 line and you already make that judgement

all his acting is likely going to revolve around his ability to swing a giant sword, and maybe yell/grunt, and he seemed to do just fine in the ~30 seconds we saw of him doing just that...

3) the ex-head of the gold cloaks that was sent to the wall:
a) when tyrion banished him there, why did he actually go there? why not just go somewhere else? was he transported there under armed guard?

yes, he was sent by ship in a similar fashion as to how we saw Yoren transporting new "recruits" to the wall when he took Arya in season 1

and why would you run from a likely high position in the Nights Watch only to trade it for having a bounty on your head? he couldn't just run away without being hunted down (we see exactly what happens when that happens in the very first episode of the series)

b) when tywin took Hand of the King back from tyrion, why didn't he bring that guy back?

why would he care? he wasn't a particularly special person, just a dumb lackey, and Tywin admits Tyrion is capable, so it seems quite clear that Tywin agreed with what Tyrion did there

6) Why didn't they make Darios hair blue like in the books?
at least he'll stand out from the other secondary chars

probably for the same reason they decided not to change Danny's eye color to violet, or even bother changing her eyebrow color

 

[alkemyst]

BTW the actor playing Oberyn knocked it out of the park in the scene with Tyrion.

QFT...Cersei is evil.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Not talking about the actual acress, but I thought Sansa was 15 or 16 in the show. While Baelish is like 45-50?

You dont call that pedophilia?!

ephebophilia

 

[VulgarDisplay]

QFT...Cersei is evil.

Can I be the first to say what the hell are you talking about?

 

[Phoenix86]

Can I be the first to say what the hell are you talking about?

Well in the dialogue Oberyn spelled out why Cersei is a wise and beautiful woman, but I was talking about the actor. The dialogue was also excellent writing, but I think his performance might go unnoticed. He's been good in other scenes but this one was notable.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Can I be the first to say what the hell are you talking about?

Don't question him. He's re-becoming Mountain. Do you even lift?

I'm sorry, I got confused. Alke comes in here from time to time, he goes off on crazy tangents and things descend into chaos. He's like the Littlefinger of ATOT. If you feed him, it only makes him stronger.

On a completely unrelated note, who wants to venture a guess as to what happens with Sansa and Littlefinger in the wake of Lysa's unfortunate accident? I mean, obviously Littlefinger wants to marry Sansa so he can gain control of the North, but I mean more in the immediate future; the mother of the Lord of the Vale just died, and there will obviously be inquiries made. Does Sansa rat out Baelish so he can stand trial and promptly learn how to fly, taking away her only real protector but sparing her the fate of having to marry the lecherous old cretin, or does she go along with his plan so she doesn't have to spend any more time kissing Robin's entitled ass? On the one hand she's Ned Stark's daughter; she puts the "noble" in "quit being so noble you fucking idiot." But I feel like she's gotten pretty jaded with being honest all the time. Maybe she takes this opportunity to go rogue, become Mrs. Chaos and stop giving a fuck about anything.

 

[Kev]

On a completely unrelated note, who wants to venture a guess as to what happens with Sansa and Littlefinger in the wake of Lysa's unfortunate accident?

Whatever happens, I'm sure it will have been obvious to the resident geniuses in this thread who "have been paying attention."

 

[olds]

When the Mountain was killing the peasants, was that Dax Shepard on the left as one of the peasants?
I saw an interview with his wife where she said they were big fans and made watching an event.

 

[KidNiki1]

When the Mountain was killing the peasants, was that Dax Shepard on the left as one of the peasants?
I saw an interview with his wife where she said they were big fans and made watching an event.

it does look a little like him, but Dax has a more defined chest and arms.

 

[momeNt]

So this is the third casting of the mountain?

 

[smackababy]

So this is the third casting of the mountain?

Yes, but in the first casting, he was wearing a helmet obscuring his face. The second was a very brief scene. This third casting will be the only one to get significant screen time in the trial by combat.

 

[HN]

 

[purbeast0]

i watched the past 2 episodes last night back to back, and the best part about the episodes was that we didn't have to watch any of bran's story.

 

[smackababy]

i watched the past 2 episodes last night back to back, and the best part about the episodes was that we didn't have to watch any of bran's story.

They are just saving up content so we get an entire episode of Bran fumbling through the forest doing nothing but being boring!

 

[The Boston Dangler]

i watched the past 2 episodes last night back to back, and the best part about the episodes was that we didn't have to watch any of bran's story.

bran's story is actually starting to be good, imo.

 

[JEDI]

ahh yes.. the cheesy over the top dramatic scene I was talking about complete with torch for added effect

 

[GagHalfrunt]

bran's story is actually starting to be good, imo.

The only time Bran's story has ever been good he was plummeting from a tower window. Since then it's all been downhill.

ahh yes.. the cheesy over the top dramatic scene I was talking about complete with torch for added effect

Yes, they should have staged it in a much better lit dungeon so the torch would not have been necessary.

 

[Remobz]

ahh yes.. the cheesy over the top dramatic scene I was talking about complete with torch for added effect

This scene was great. Nothing cheesy about it.

 

[nehalem256]

The only time Bran's story has ever been good he was plummeting from a tower window. Since then it's all been downhill.

Technically it was downhill then too

 

[KeithTalent]

This scene was great. Nothing cheesy about it.

Yeah, this. One of the all time best scenes in the show in my opinion.

KT

 

[Remobz]

BTW the actor playing Oberyn knocked it out of the park in the scene with Tyrion.

True, but he will die a horrible death in the fight with the Mountain. He has zero chance of winning He looks like a little ant compared to the Mountain in the previews.

 

[cronos]

Yeah, this. One of the all time best scenes in the show in my opinion.

KT

Agreed. I was all giggity giggity while saying out loud (read: correctly guessing while he turned around and grabbed the torch) what he was going to say

I actually thought at first that the torch is symbolical to being a champion, but then I realized it's just for show. Looking back it was probably a little cheesy but the awesomeness made it okay

 

[GagHalfrunt]

True, but he will die a horrible death in the fight with the Mountain. He has zero chance of winning He looks like a little ant compared to the Mountain in the previews.

Bronn already let Tyrion in on the strategy he would have used to fight Gregor. It was what he did when he fought Vardis Egan in the Eyrie. You have to assume that Oberyn will do the same. Not that it's necessarily going to work, but he's not going to stand toe-to-toe and get chopped down.

 

[Train]

I read on another forum the dude playing the mountain is an Icelandic, & former World's Strongest man winner. He is definitely not an actor.

He weighs over 400 freakin pounds.

 

[Anubis]

I read on another forum the dude playing the mountain is an Icelandic, & former World's Strongest man winner. He is definitely not an actor.

He weighs over 400 freakin pounds.

Hafthor (sp) is 6'9" 410 or something he placed 3rd in the 2014 world's strongest man