Game of Thrones - TV Series (NO BOOK SPOILERS)

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KeithTalent

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He was, along with the other captain (who didn't get a cool nickname, so consequently I don't remember who he was). I was just pointing out that The Titan's Bastard was among the Braavosi shown on the show so far (along with Jaqen H'ghar and Syrio).

Ah ok, thanks. Became very confused for a second there. :D

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Potential book spoilers.

~snip~

I'm not sure that these are necessarily spoilers as they add some backstory and my interpretation to things that have already happened on the show without discussing the future but I wanted to be careful anyway.

more book thoughts related to the above

Remember that before the the dragons were born Ned Stark had to execute a deserter from the wall who encountered the others. They seem to be magical as well and another indication of magic becoming stronger in the world.

As for your point about magic being almost but not completely absent in the world before the priests R'hilor gained their abilities and other examples supernatural events I personally think that the Valyrian swords were examples as they're not easily reforged and very few smiths know how to do so. Additionally dragon fire is rumored to be involved in the creation of Valyrian Steel.


Since the white walkers returned before the dragons were born and we don't know the exact timing the fire priests gaining their abilities I think that all of those examples are merely manifestations of magic growing stronger in the world rather than any cause.
 

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Wish they could of dragged on joffrey's character a bit longer. So much fun hating on him.

Well Ramsay Snow the guy who tortured Theon is still on the show and he seems to be smarter and more cunning than Joffrey.


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Theb

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well, the actor was good at making the character so easy to hate. G.R.R. Martin expressed some of the same sentiments.

He liked the actor (thought he was a good performer as well) and felt guilty about people blurring that line and believing that Jack Gleeson who plays Joffrey must be as big a prick as his character.


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Jack Gleeson did an excellent job with the role. The casting overall has been really good.
 

zinfamous

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The casting overall has been really good.

I don't know...too many British actors. British actors all look the same to me, especially in productions like this with so many characters, everyone just blends together. I'm pretty sure Stanis/Bolton/ Rob Stark's incompetent nephew/New Dario/ are all the same actor. And a few others I am forgetting or are already dead (like, Stannis' buddy with the missing fingers--I used to confuse him for Stannis)
 

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Jack Gleeson did an excellent job with the role. The casting overall has been really good.

I agree the only drawback that I see is that some of the younger actors are growing up during the filming of the series when if I remember right the start of the story up until the point reached by the series is between one and two years.

considering that the show is getting insane viewer numbers for a show on a pay channel and the box sets much be selling very well I do hope that the producers do get a bit more investment in the production of the show.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/tv-ratings-game-thrones-loses-695943

UPDATED : After surging to a record-breaking haul for its fourth premiere, promptly locking down a two-season renewal, Sunday's significant episode earns a mostly even 6.3 million viewers.
The two season renewal to at least the end of season 6 is a nice bit of news though


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This post is intended to clear up the kings blood confusion. It doesn't spoil any future episodes buy gives a little background that is glossed over in the show. You decide if you want to know, and I repeat it shouldn't spoil anything in the shows because I think it was mentioned in earlier books.

the baratheon's had married some lesser targaryan's in the past which is likely where the power of their kings blood is derived from.
 

zinfamous

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This post is intended to clear up the kings blood confusion. It doesn't spoil any future episodes buy gives a little background that is glossed over in the show. You decide if you want to know, and I repeat it shouldn't spoil anything in the shows because I think it was mentioned in earlier books.

the baratheon's had married some lesser targaryan's in the past which is likely where the power of their kings blood is derived from.

so, if the Baratheon line has Targaryan blood somewhere in there, wouldn't that lead credence to Stannis' daughter's affliction being more than just this greyscale mumbojumbo?
 

quikah

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so, if the Baratheon line has Targaryan blood somewhere in there, wouldn't that lead credence to Stannis' daughter's affliction being more than just this greyscale mumbojumbo?

Robert/Stannis/Renly grandmother was a Targaryen (Aegon V daughter, which would be Aerys' aunt). Probably not, it is just greyscale.
 

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This post is intended to clear up the kings blood confusion. It doesn't spoil any future episodes buy gives a little background that is glossed over in the show. You decide if you want to know, and I repeat it shouldn't spoil anything in the shows because I think it was mentioned in earlier books.

the baratheon's had married some lesser targaryan's in the past which is likely where the power of their kings blood is derived from.

Thanks. I still cannot stand the Stannis storyline. Most of the families have cross-married somewhere along the way, I'm sure then there is a much wider range of people with that blood, rather than just Stannis and Robert's bastard son whom the red woman can draw power from.

Maybe his daughter's birthmark is part dragon scale?

It just occurred to me the only possible way forward for the story as it is being told is for Stannis and the red woman to take over rule of the kingdom. Otherwise the whole plot of Deanerys marching across the lands to reclaim the throne will be completely deflated. I could be wrong, though. But, as thoroughly bored as I am with Stannis, I'll have to accept and suffer through his story in order to enjoy the other characters.
 

alkemyst

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Folks, you can't make rational decisions when there are dragons and magic you do not acknowledge.
 

Phoenix86

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Isn't he from Bravos, from where hails Ary's dancing partner and the Iron Bank?
Yes, and I have gone over this scene several times. When the dancer fights king's guard and Lannister lackeys there a few things that are important. When Arya leaves the dancing master has a wooden sword, which the king's guard just broke in half. It cuts to Arya and you clearly hear a metal sword hit the ground, followed by a loud groan. Then a bunch of various fighting sounds. It sounded like he disarmed the king's guard.

My theory is he is either the faceless guy, Jacqen, or related to him somehow. Either way I think he lived, if he isn't Jacqen he got word to him about Arya.

/random theory from a non-book reader
 

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Just as an aside, wondering if there has been a female actor in this show who has not taken her clothes off....
 

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Yes, and I have gone over this scene several times. When the dancer fights king's guard and Lannister lackeys there a few things that are important. When Arya leaves the dancing master has a wooden sword, which the king's guard just broke in half. It cuts to Arya and you clearly hear a metal sword hit the ground, followed by a loud groan. Then a bunch of various fighting sounds. It sounded like he disarmed the king's guard.

My theory is he is either the faceless guy, Jacqen, or related to him somehow. Either way I think he lived, if he isn't Jacqen he got word to him about Arya.

/random theory from a non-book reader

Always wonder what was jaqen's mission. He was on the way to the Wall, was he sent to kill one of the night watch? Who? I would guess Aemon, but no clues about it.

There is really no evidence jaqen and syrio are the same person, but there is none against either. Also no evidence for or against syrio surviving.
 
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Just as an aside, wondering if there has been a female actor in this show who has not taken her clothes off....

All of the underage ones (obviously), Catelyn Stark, all of the Frey girls, Cersei (I guess she was naked in the first episode, but you didn't see anything), Olenna Tyrell, Missandei, Brienne (bath scene with no revealing nudity)... I'm sure there's a few more, but that's just off the top of my head.
 
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I can't wait for the ollena brienne sex scene that's coming this season. Going to be hot. Oh sorry for the spoiler.

I know you're just joking, and somehow that makes me even more upset than posting potential spoilers. Cause, come on, the Queen of Thorns and Brienne of Tarth? Sorry boss, can't come in, I've been hospitalized with a permanent erection. Giggity.
 

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I know you're just joking, and somehow that makes me even more upset than posting potential spoilers. Cause, come on, the Queen of Thorns and Brienne of Tarth? Sorry boss, can't come in, I've been hospitalized with a permanent erection. Giggity.

I'd be amazed if there isn't already some fanfic about that. I'll let you handle the googling. :)
 

Bird222

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I rewatched the episode and you can see how it happens. Lady Olenna plays with Sansa's hair a bit over halfway through the episode and ends up pulling a gem on of Sansa's neck. They show a clear shot of the necklace missing a gem.

Then right before Joffrey goes to cut the pie, he hands his cup to Margaery and she puts her hand over the top of the cup for a split second covering it as she takes it from him and puts it on the table. Then when Joffrey comes back, he makes Tyrion hand him the cup of wine.

I rewatched this like 3-4 times and I didn't see any of it. Can someone post screenshots?
 

Bird222

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What about the 'hand over the cup' move? I still don't see how you saw the necklace thing in real time. I watched that woman's hands and I didn't see any movement like she pulled something off her necklace or that she had anything in her hands. When she left Sansa to go eat some of the food she paid for, her hands looked completely empty.
 

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Maybe she stole the gem not to poison the drink, but to plant it where it would incriminate Sansa for the murder?