What does any of that matter when the screen looks bluish or greenish or orangish? Fact is, Samsung's AMOLED screens have a tint whereas most non-Samsung phones do not. And they are darker. Crank up the brightness and, not only will it still be darker compared to an iPhone 5 or HTC One, but the battery advantages go out the window. People can talk about modes and SAMOLED screens having a perfect color temperature until they're blue in the face (pun intended) but the final verdict is in how the screen looks. If it's bluish it sucks. End of story.
What does any of that matter when the screen looks bluish or greenish or orangish? Fact is, Samsung's AMOLED screens have a tint whereas most non-Samsung phones do not. And they are darker. Crank up the brightness and, not only will it still be darker compared to an iPhone 5 or HTC One, but the battery advantages go out the window. People can talk about modes and SAMOLED screens having a perfect color temperature until they're blue in the face (pun intended) but the final verdict is in how the screen looks. If it's bluish it sucks. End of story.
No. Colour temperature is an objective measurement of that. And we can see that the iPhone 4S screen was almost as bluish as the GS3. Unless you go by Anand's results in which case the iPhone 4S was cartoonishly blue (which is why I think that particular article's results are flawed). The iPhone 5 is much better than the GS3 though so it wouldn't be too bluish.
So if you weren't super biased like you obviously are, you would have complained about the 4S's bluish screen. The iPhone 4's screen was bluish, it sucks [/Dari].
Now, LCD's still had a distinct sharpness advantage (at 720p, my One X was much sharper than the GS3) and more accurate colours. My One X was _actually_ good at rendering a neutral white too with a colour temperature of about 6450k. Looks like _my_ eyes were better at picking out a screen that was good since I picked out the One X for my use while you're using the iPhones as your champion in your crusade.
Perhaps you're wearing... rose coloured glasses.
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Galaxy s4 hit 475 CD brightness in more then 2 reviews and also has better viewing angles then the mighty iPhone 5.
Why is it so hard for you to get it in your head that the gs4 screen is amazing and is the best screen on any phone at the moment.
And just so you know brightness is not a limitation of amoled screens,Samsung limits how bright they get to save power.even if you manually put the gs4 100% brightness it will only give around 325-375 and only when its set to auto and the phone detects sun light will it give the max brightness of 475
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The problem with my biasness is that I have a phone with an OLED screen and it is in no way as tinted as Samsung's AMOLED screens. This is what I simply don't understand about their OLED. Anyone that has an HTC One S will see that the OLED screen (made by AUO) on that phone, while having a lower resolution, is not tinted like the Galaxy phones. At the phone and electronic stores, the Galaxy phones stand out for their tints, literally. I've never seen the bluish tint of any iPhone that you're talking about.
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I'll have to check it out when I go to Pluck U in the West Village today. With respect to your last paragraph, that just proves my point. Ramp up the brightness and it'll be darker than an LCD screen and nowhere near as bright.
This is completely true. I was blown away when I compared my Galaxy Nexus to a One S; the GN was noticeably tinted with a disgusting green color, and even after I tried to calibrate the screen (with the One S as my reference) it couldn't come close.
OTOH, the GS4 reviews I've read have nearly universally said that the screen is much better than Samsung's previous AMOLEDs. Without being able to see and compare in person, though, I can't make a good judgement.
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You know, not to be trolling but damn, it is true what cheezy321 said. Any time there is even any teeny tiny criticism or flaw about Apple's iPhone, it must be true. The iPhone has shit hardware/software. Every time there is even a friggin hint of criticism about Android devices, it must be user error.
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The above comment was made after reading through the thread and seeing many posts calling the OP an outright liar or discounting his opinions. At least he tried an Android phone and went in with the thought of making this his iPhone replacement. I've seen way too many anti-Apple posts from people who have never even used an Apple product over the years. In the end what I see is very little constructive comments trying to help the guy and a whole lot of negativity because he's having a bad experience with his Android phone.
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I've got nothing against Android. For personal use, my phone of choice is an iPhone. For work use, the company I work for develops software for Android and our primary target hardware are Samsung devices.
The OP might have a defective phone. I highly doubt the real (functional) Galaxy S4 is as bad as what the OP is saying. My own recommendation is the OP sends the phone back for a replacement and try again. If he's still getting the same crap, then return it permanently.
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The above comment was made after reading through the thread and seeing many posts calling the OP an outright liar or discounting his opinions. At least he tried an Android phone and went in with the thought of making this his iPhone replacement. I've seen way too many anti-Apple posts from people who have never even used an Apple product over the years. In the end what I see is very little constructive comments trying to help the guy and a whole lot of negativity because he's having a bad experience with his Android phone.
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I've got nothing against Android. For personal use, my phone of choice is an iPhone. For work use, the company I work for develops software for Android and our primary target hardware are Samsung devices.
The OP might have a defective phone. I highly doubt the real (functional) Galaxy S4 is as bad as what the OP is saying. My own recommendation is the OP sends the phone back for a replacement and try again. If he's still getting the same crap, then return it permanently.
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The brightness is lower with certain color modes. Also the max brightness isn't just for power savings, but heat as well.
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I've used and seen countless iPhone screens over the years. There is nothing bluish about them. Especially when compared to several amoled screens I've seen. If anything there was some yellow tinting to some iPhone screens in the past. My iPhone 5 screen is still the whitest screen I have ever seen to date.
The issue I have with the S4 isn't a bluish tint but rather poor white balance no matter what screen mode you choose even at full brightness with auto off. In recent releases I've seen strong white balance performance from the HTC One, HTC First, and Blackberry Z10. No surprise these are LCD panels.
Say what you will. It was trumpeted when the iPhone 5 came out that it had a much nicer LCD.
I have One X and both my eyes and objective measurements prove that it's accurate.
I can actually say that I'm little affected by bias because of this. Note that I'm also saying Samsung's older OLED's were even more bluish than the iPhone 4S, there's no doubt about that.
I have One X and both my eyes and objective measurements prove that it's accurate.
I can actually say that I'm little affected by bias because of this. Note that I'm also saying Samsung's older OLED's were even more bluish than the iPhone 4S, there's no doubt about that.
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The complaint on iPhone screen's in the past, at times, was a yellow tint. Any bluish claim has always come from something amoled. I've never encountered anything bluish on any of my iPhone's, my friends, or anything I've seen in a store. I really think you are mistaken on this one. I don't mean to be rude, but that's just the truth.
The iPhone 5 screen is superior to any iPhone 4/4S screen. Stronger colors and brighter whites for sure.
IIRC, the yellow tint was only the glue and it usually went away.
In any case, multiple independent measurements of the 4S screen bears me out so it's not like I'm just going by easily biased impressions.
It's much less blue than the terrible Galaxy Nexus screen and less blue compared to the poor GS3 screen but still rather blue compared to my excellent One X screen.
There's no doubt the 5 screen is much better than the 4S screen though.
In any case, multiple independent measurements of the 4S screen bears me out so it's not like I'm just going by easily biased impressions.
It's much less blue than the terrible Galaxy Nexus screen and less blue compared to the poor GS3 screen but still rather blue compared to my excellent One X screen.
There's no doubt the 5 screen is much better than the 4S screen though.
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I don't think they are saying the iphone5 screen is blue, just bluer than the S4 screen which, apparently, isn't blue at all.
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I was responding to an earlier statement that the iPhone 4S screen was bluish. I had the iPhone 5 and S4 screens side by side yesterday. A bluish hue doesn't come into play with either screen. The iP5 screen is substantially whiter though. Any quality LCD will produce stronger whites than the S4.
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Went to T-Mobile's and AT&T's store on 34th street in Midtown. I did not get a chance to play with the S4 because some lesbian was checking it out but their Note 2's AMOLED did look half-way decent when put in the 'Natural' mode, however the colors were bland. When put in 'dynamic' mode it went back to being awful.
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Please. He still hasn't even proven that he actually has the phone. If you're going to make a bunch of wild claims about a device that a lot of people don't have themselves to compare, then the burden of proof is on the person making the claims to prove they aren't full of it. The OP has had plenty of opportunity to do so, and so far refused. To which, most rightly call BS.
By the way, I'll guarantee anything you'd be the first one howling if someone on here claimed to have an iPhone 5S before most others and was ranting a whole bunch of crap about how bad it sucked, without a shred of proof of actually owning it.
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But see, this is the exact attitude I'm talking about. When there are problems reported about the iPhones, was there multiple people calling the one reporting it a liar? No. Hell, most of the people in this thread calling the OP a liar had no problems repeating any iPhone issues and taking it at face value without needing proof.
For me, is it out of the realm of possibility the OP is lying? No. It's not. Has he given any proof that he's lying? I'd say no. Does his past posting history suggest he's biased one way or the other? I'd also say no as well but I haven't really read much of his posts. I guarantee if a poster with less than 50 post and who just made their account a month or two ago report iPhone problems, none of them would be calling that guy a liar or offering money for proof of any iPhone issues.
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Indeed. I hate the Samsmug Fandroids, and I own a Note 2. They're the worst representatives in the world, for any technology. Their crazed attitudes almost made reconsider buying it at all. :\
Actually, to throw more information into the fray...
I work in a second-hand retailer and I test a lot of Apple stock.
In fact, when new Apple products launch, we usually buy it in at above retail cost (to get a massive amount of stock in), so I've seen probably 100s of different Apple screens.
iPhone screens usually aren't too bad; but dear god, iPad screens? I've sat two side by side and commented to people around me that one has a horrible red tint and the other has a horrible blue tint. There's plenty of good screens (the one I got my mum has a slight blue tint, but it's fine), but there's sooo many bad screens.
The IP5 screens are generally pretty good. I've seen plenty of bad IP4 and 4s screens though. I literally had to refuse to buy one a few weeks ago because it has such a bad blue tint white backgrounds were literally almost dark blue at certain brightness levels (of course the customer didn't think, anything was wrong...)
And yes, I've seen bad OLED screens too -- S3 screens can be pretty badly tinted. It's just luck of the draw really. When I had an S3 (I have a Note II now with a good screen) I ended up exchanging one within a few days because it had extreme colour shift when you moved the phone at all and it had a REALLY bad blue tiny at the bottom of the screen.
And FYI, there's meant to be some sort of weird "purple smear" effect on the new S4 screen when viewing dark content. Nobody is sure if it's a hardware of software issue (probably hardware, but Samsung did do some pretty insane things with the software of the Note 1/2 SGS3 screens which took good developers almost 5 minutes to fix).
Anyway, unfortunately no devices are perfect
I generally pick Samsung products because I feel they are the most well rounded, and the unlocked bootloaders makes it very easy to improve them even further
I work in a second-hand retailer and I test a lot of Apple stock.
In fact, when new Apple products launch, we usually buy it in at above retail cost (to get a massive amount of stock in), so I've seen probably 100s of different Apple screens.
iPhone screens usually aren't too bad; but dear god, iPad screens? I've sat two side by side and commented to people around me that one has a horrible red tint and the other has a horrible blue tint. There's plenty of good screens (the one I got my mum has a slight blue tint, but it's fine), but there's sooo many bad screens.
The IP5 screens are generally pretty good. I've seen plenty of bad IP4 and 4s screens though. I literally had to refuse to buy one a few weeks ago because it has such a bad blue tint white backgrounds were literally almost dark blue at certain brightness levels (of course the customer didn't think, anything was wrong...)
And yes, I've seen bad OLED screens too -- S3 screens can be pretty badly tinted. It's just luck of the draw really. When I had an S3 (I have a Note II now with a good screen) I ended up exchanging one within a few days because it had extreme colour shift when you moved the phone at all and it had a REALLY bad blue tiny at the bottom of the screen.
And FYI, there's meant to be some sort of weird "purple smear" effect on the new S4 screen when viewing dark content. Nobody is sure if it's a hardware of software issue (probably hardware, but Samsung did do some pretty insane things with the software of the Note 1/2 SGS3 screens which took good developers almost 5 minutes to fix).
Anyway, unfortunately no devices are perfect
I generally pick Samsung products because I feel they are the most well rounded, and the unlocked bootloaders makes it very easy to improve them even further
Because name-calling makes you look like the less crazy and best representative.
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All this is is proof if your own bias and willingness to believe anything so long as it fits that bias.
Once more: when a device is so new that few have hands on experience with it then its absolutely the burden of anyone claiming to review that device to prove they actually have it. That's just common sense. Otherwise it wreaks of shilling. You're simply willing to overlook this because of your bias.
There are plenty of other actual reviews from credible sources of the SGS4 that don't report the same nonsense as the OP, so once more it's your bias taking his word for something he hasn't proven because it fits with what you wish to believe.
Also what you claim isn't true. The recent thread with a misleading title claiming a 30% failure rate for iPhones was called out by just about everyone here. Meanwhile, just observe all the usual excuse making by iPhone fans in ANY thread pointing out Apple shortcomings (the drag and drop thread) and heaven forbid anyone mention they prefer a screen size bigger than whatever Apple's latest is. Its the iPhone crowd that's the most hypocritical about any of this. (Dismiss ANY criticism of Apple yet believe anything negative about Android without question. Like you with the disproven claims on this thread just further proving that.
So once again to the OP: this is a tech site not a gossip mill. Claims about a new device should be backed up by PROOF. Do so.
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