Free Speech or Too Far?

[fskimospy]

I made no comment about the morality of the President or how he compares to comedians. I will state that we had a sorry choice to make last Nov. You would have a morality case to make against me regardless of which candidate I voted for. I'm not going there. Get a little better at baiting before you try it next time.

Of course you did, you said that CNN should fire Griffin for her act but then wouldn't say the same for Trump despite his act being vastly worse. As for morality, I asked if you could admit Trump was a gravely immoral person and you evaded the question. Hence, you're incapable of admitting he's immoral. This is not complicated.

Prove me wrong! Just say five words: 'Trump is an immoral person'. You didn't have to vote for him or anyone else. You chose to support someone who brags about sexually assaulting people and tried to have five innocent teenagers executed for a crime they didn't commit and refused to even apologize. At least have the courage to own your choice. If you're too embarrassed to do it that's a sign you made a bad one.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

yea, sea ray, you're just far to smitten with drumpf. that's getting more and more evident with each post. sucks to be you.

 

[Sea Ray]

Of course you did, you said that CNN should fire Griffin for her act but then wouldn't say the same for Trump despite his act being vastly worse. As for morality, I asked if you could admit Trump was a gravely immoral person and you evaded the question. Hence, you're incapable of admitting he's immoral. This is not complicated.

Prove me wrong! Just say five words: 'Trump is an immoral person'. You didn't have to vote for him or anyone else. You chose to support someone who brags about sexually assaulting people and tried to have five innocent teenagers executed for a crime they didn't commit and refused to even apologize. At least have the courage to own your choice. If you're too embarrassed to do it that's a sign you made a bad one.

And the attempts to bait continue

 

[zinfamous]

Because your truths are not supported by the evidence. There are countless people that Trump has known for yrs who do not hate him such as Bill O'Reilly, Rudy Giulliani, Chris Christie, Bill Cunningham, Lou Dobbs, Tom Brady...

Well, I don't know much about Tom Brady personally, but lol at your list of upstanding citizen supporters of Hair Fuhrer.

 

[repoman0]

And the attempts to bait continue

The evasion continues, so I guess his post is 100% correct.

 

[ch33zw1z]

LoL. you clearly don't know anything about Trump.

He's republican, that's what matters.

 

[fskimospy]

And the attempts to bait continue

What attempt to bait are you talking about? Bizarre.

I simply asked you to acknowledge that Donald Trump is a gravely immoral individual, how hard can that be? All the evidence is there, I mean there's literally a tape of him bragging about sexually assaulting people. If you need a link to it so you can watch it let me know and I'll be happy to supply it.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

He's republican, that's what matters.

Eisenhower was a republican, hell, nixon was a republican, even ronnie was kinda one, but drumpf? nah, he's only going to be what makes him the most money.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Eisenhower was a republican, hell, nixon was a republican, even ronnie was kinda one, but drumpf? nah, he's only going to be what makes him the most money.

Exactly, which is why Republicans should of shown him the door like in 2012.

 

[Sea Ray]

The evasion continues, so I guess his post is 100% correct.

You are 100% correct that I'm ignoring his questions. How observant of you.

 

[Sea Ray]

What attempt to bait are you talking about? Bizarre.

I simply asked you to acknowledge that Donald Trump is a gravely immoral individual, how hard can that be? All the evidence is there, I mean there's literally a tape of him bragging about sexually assaulting people. If you need a link to it so you can watch it let me know and I'll be happy to supply it.

Yes, that's baiting. I told you that I'm not going to get into the moral character of either Presidential candidate except to say our pickin's were slim. This thread is about Kathy Griffin and you're attempting to divert it towards anything that's anti Trump. If you want to hear any more from me, stick to the subject. Otherwise your requests will be ignored

 

[Sea Ray]

Exactly, which is why Republicans should of shown him the door like in 2012.

I agree with you that Trump is no Republican. He is his own man

 

[ch33zw1z]

I agree with you that Trump is no Republican. He is his own man

He's an entertainer and a slum lord. Used to pointing at people and saying "you're fired" on a whim.

A real winner.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Yes, that's baiting. I told you that I'm not going to get into the moral character of either Presidential candidate except to say our pickin's were slim. This thread is about Kathy Griffin and you're attempting to divert it towards anything that's anti Trump. If you want to hear any more from me, stick to the subject. Otherwise your requests will be ignored

Kathy Griffin is anti trump. So it's the same topic. Not far fetched at all.

You're avoiding questions because you're smart enough to no where the conversation is headed and just do t want it presented to you...again.

 

[Sea Ray]

Kathy Griffin is anti trump. So it's the same topic. Not far fetched at all.

You're avoiding questions because you're smart enough to no where the conversation is headed and just do t want it presented to you...again.

I'm here to have a discussion. Not to be subjected to an inquisition. Trump's morality has nothing to do with KG doing what she did.

 

[fskimospy]

Yes, that's baiting. I told you that I'm not going to get into the moral character of either Presidential candidate except to say our pickin's were slim. This thread is about Kathy Griffin and you're attempting to divert it towards anything that's anti Trump. If you want to hear any more from me, stick to the subject. Otherwise your requests will be ignored

Yes, this thread is about Kathy Griffin and her actions towards Donald Trump. The fact that the 'victim' here has engaged in prior actions that are similar, only much worse, is directly relevant to the topic at hand and you know it, particularly because it shows your selective outrage and hypocrisy when it comes to this issue.

 

[fskimospy]

I'm here to have a discussion. Not to be subjected to an inquisition. Trump's morality has nothing to do with KG doing what she did.

The 'inquisition' of course being someone pointing out how you're a hypocrite and then not letting you lie your way out of the issue.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I'm here to have a discussion. Not to be subjected to an inquisition. Trump's morality has nothing to do with KG doing what she did.

Ok snowflake, go about your discussion in your safe space. Make sure you keep those blinders on so the scope stays small enough to not harm you.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/inquisition

 

[ch33zw1z]

Of course, you can always just review the last 8 years in Conworld and see what they have said about Obama

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gvGmF_g5o28/UC1YtutdaXI/AAAAAAAAAPY/w5WSUOK_kuo/s1600/zDjRw.png

Just one example. What's the difference? Griffin gave it liberal artsy-fartsy pizazz.

Oh well.

 

[Thebobo]

Hypocrisy

 

[Sea Ray]

Yes, this thread is about Kathy Griffin and her actions towards Donald Trump. The fact that the 'victim' here has engaged in prior actions that are similar, only much worse, is directly relevant to the topic at hand and you know it, particularly because it shows your selective outrage and hypocrisy when it comes to this issue.

This is where we disagree. You seem to believe that Trump's prior actions are a factor here. What, I don't know. Does it make what she did all the more tolerable? No, his actions are irrelevant

 

[Sea Ray]

The 'inquisition' of course being someone pointing out how you're a hypocrite and then not letting you lie your way out of the issue.

This thread is not about me or your unhealthy hatred of the President and everyone who doesn't believe like you do.

You are one of the best things the Republican party has going for it. People with your attitude will not be successful in persuasion. This is why the GOP continues to win election after election.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Kathy Griffen thinks too much. First, she thought she was funny. Then, she thought she was satirical. Now, she thinks she's relevant.

 

[fskimospy]

This thread is not about me or your unhealthy hatred of the President and everyone who doesn't believe like you do.

You are one of the best things the Republican party has going for it. People with your attitude will not be successful in persuasion. This is why the GOP continues to win election after election.

I've noticed this is an unhealthy trend for you. When people point out you're acting illogically or irrationally you try to push it back on them by questioning their motives instead of addressing points you can't answer. This is classic defensive behavior.

Nobody hates you here, we are just trying to get you to be more honest with us and with yourself. No need to project whatever you feel on other people.

 

[fskimospy]

This is where we disagree. You seem to believe that Trump's prior actions are a factor here. What, I don't know. Does it make what she did all the more tolerable? No, his actions are irrelevant

I know we disagree, but that's because you're trying to avoid questions you can't answer.

Trump's actions are directly relevant to what happened here due to your support of Trump and your condemnation of Griffin. It shows you're a hypocrite.