Free Speech or Too Far?

[Sea Ray]

I know we disagree, but that's because you're trying to avoid questions you can't answer.

Trump's actions are directly relevant to what happened here due to your support of Trump and your condemnation of Griffin. It shows you're a hypocrite.

Baiting. You keep at it

 

[Meghan54]

Baiting. You keep at it

Do you need some A&D ointment for that butthurt you're having?

 

[fskimospy]

Do you need some A&D ointment for that butthurt you're having?

It's weird, at this point everyone knows the answer to the questions he refuses to answer so I hardly see the point in his attempts to pretend otherwise.

He thinks Griffin should have been fired for not apologizing but had no problem supporting Trump despite him not apologizing for something much worse. He's a hypocrite.

 

[jmagg]

Griffin is entitled to do what she did.
What she did was try to bolster a dead comedic career with a shocking premeditated publicity stunt. She was barely funny even in her so called prime.
Hacks disparage others for laughs.

 

[xthetenth]

There's something we should point out here. Apparently his children are having a hard time. Poor Eric.

This thread is not about me or your unhealthy hatred of the President and everyone who doesn't believe like you do.

You are one of the best things the Republican party has going for it. People with your attitude will not be successful in persuasion. This is why the GOP continues to win election after election.

The GOP wins election after election because they don't have to get a majority of the vote to win. It's really that simple. We're over twenty years since a non-incumbent GOP presidential candidate has won the popular vote.

 

[fskimospy]

The GOP wins election after election because they don't have to get a majority of the vote to win. It's really that simple. We're over twenty years since a non-incumbent GOP presidential candidate has won the popular vote.

Yes GWB won a majority of the vote in 2004. The last GOP candidate to do it before him? His dad, in 1988. By the time the next presidential election rolls around we will have a case where the GOP has won the popular vote exactly once in the last 7 presidential elections spanning almost 28 years, yet will have controlled the presidency for 12 of those 28. Combine that with the geographic concentration/gerrymandering issues in the House and the wildly disproportionate representation given to sparsely populated states in the Senate and you've got a situation where minority rule by conservatives is not that hard to accomplish. That's without even getting into voter suppression and things like that.

 

[Svnla]

KG to hold a press conference with her lawyer about this matter, "bullying from Trump family" - https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/kat...ce-address-controversial-photo-012302576.html

 

[MomentsofSanity]

KG to hold a press conference with her lawyer about this matter, "bullying from Trump family" - https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/kat...ce-address-controversial-photo-012302576.html

She needs to cut her losses and let it go in hopes it just fades away. Playing the victim card after what she did isn't going to go well. She has literally no sympathy from any quarter at this point.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Griffin is entitled to do what she did.
What she did was try to bolster a dead comedic career with a shocking premeditated publicity stunt. She was barely funny even in her so called prime.
Hacks disparage others for laughs.

Like. That's just your opinion man. In case you are new to the world of comedy, that is what they do. You either like it or you don't. It isn't the first time, it won't be the last.

 

[vi edit]

She needs to cut her losses and let it go in hopes it just fades away. Playing the victim card after what she did isn't going to go well. She has literally no sympathy from any quarter at this point.

Not sure what else she expected when she attacked one of the most vindictive and litigious personalities alive.

 

[jmagg]

Like. That's just your opinion man. In case you are new to the world of comedy, that is what they do. You either like it or you don't. It isn't the first time, it won't be the last.

Very true that's only my opinion of her comedic approach.
Facts are that her failed attempt at shock comedy for recognition backfired and was forced to grovel.

 

[agent00f]

Like. That's just your opinion man. In case you are new to the world of comedy, that is what they do. You either like it or you don't. It isn't the first time, it won't be the last.

Very true that's only my opinion of her comedic approach.
Facts are that her failed attempt at shock comedy for recognition backfired and was forced to grovel.

Worth mentioning that jmagg is just one of those typical conservatives who loves to pretend they're anything but.

 

[jmagg]

Na, I'm simply a working class Democrat who's sick of the division, far from Conservative.

 

[zinfamous]

The 'inquisition' of course being someone pointing out how you're a hypocrite and then not letting you lie your way out of the issue.

he's the biggest victim. these are inquisition standards, these days.

 

[zinfamous]

This is where we disagree. You seem to believe that Trump's prior actions are a factor here. What, I don't know. Does it make what she did all the more tolerable? No, his actions are irrelevant

what? How can you consider this an honest position that you are proposing? In hat cocked-up world do you think a display like Griffin's are not a response to Trump's actions, his behavior, and his policy? What the hell else could it be?

This is why conservatives of your stripe are so justly ridiculed: the only position from which you can argue is to completely invent an opposition standard that you must believe is true in order to argue against it. You present baseless assumptions as if they are accepted truth, then build your argument. This is a simple failure of honest, logical argument. This is high school junk, in other words. You need to be schooled my friend.

 

[Sea Ray]

Worth mentioning that jmagg is just one of those typical conservatives who loves to pretend they're anything but.

So if a Democrat isn't hateful they're really a closet conservative?

The radical left wing sure is overrepresented on this site

 

[Sea Ray]

what? How can you consider this an honest position that you are proposing? In hat cocked-up world do you think a display like Griffin's are not a response to Trump's actions, his behavior, and his policy? What the hell else could it be?

This is why conservatives of your stripe are so justly ridiculed: the only position from which you can argue is to completely invent an opposition standard that you must believe is true in order to argue against it. You present baseless assumptions as if they are accepted truth, then build your argument. This is a simple failure of honest, logical argument. This is high school junk, in other words. You need to be schooled my friend.

I don't care why she did it. It was uncalled for by her own admission. If you think it was called for because Trump is Trump then you're off on an island on this one.

 

[zinfamous]

Not sure what else she expected when she attacked one of the most vindictive and litigious personalities alive.

agreed. but I wonder if she plans to distract the chief goon and his mole men goons through court, which could be interesting. I wonder if they could take a lawsuit all the way up to SCOTUS.

 

[zinfamous]

I don't care why she did it. It was uncalled for by her own admission. If you think it was called for because Trump is Trump then you're off on an island on this one.

I didn't say it was called for or if it wasn't. In fact, you claimed that his actions were irrelevant, as if you understand the reasoning behind her display despite claiming that you don't care. I'm simply wondering why you think someone would do something crazy like this without a reason. Is this evangelical "god made this happen for some reason" kind of thinking, or what?

You know people tend to act on motivations, right?

and of course you don't care, and I think that is her point. Now you're paying attention. Most humans would respond "Gee, that guy must have done something..." but not the bobbleheads grazing at Hair Fuhrer's nutsack. In your minds, he is above reproach, completely infallible. You are probably unreachable, as you have been conditioned out of self reflection and cognitive thought that isn't filtered through various conservative information channels.

 

[vi edit]

agreed. but I wonder if she plans to distract the chief goon and his mole men goons through court, which could be interesting. I wonder if they could take a lawsuit all the way up to SCOTUS.

She doesn't strike me as a person with the forethought or will to pursue something like that.

 

[Svnla]

KG is under investigation from Secret Service and other fallouts - https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-more-venues-cancel-kathy-griffin-shows-140737120.html

 

[thraashman]

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I'm still waiting for Trump to be ashamed of and apologize for this sick thing

 

[Zorba]

Definitely protected free speech, definitely in poor taste. I wouldnt hold the disfugiured and removed head of any human up as a form of "comedy", thats just sadism.

Meanwhile it is a standard joke on Jungle Cruise in fucking Walt Disney World...

Not saying I thought what KG was funny or smart, I don't at all, but you can't blanket say that it could never be comedy.

 

[thraashman]

KG is under investigation from Secret Service and other fallouts - https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-more-venues-cancel-kathy-griffin-shows-140737120.html

Maybe the next President will invite her to the White House like Trump did Ted Nugent

 

[agent00f]

Na, I'm simply a working class Democrat who's sick of the division, far from Conservative.

So if a Democrat isn't hateful they're really a closet conservative?

The radical left wing sure is overrepresented on this site

You might've noticed quite a few people parrot all the same things as the other degenerates, then pretending to be anything but to no one's surprise.