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Lifer
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One nice things about fox--which is hardly fair or balanced---turn it on early in the week and you get a sneak preview of the Republican talking points--and sure enough,
all the repubs will be on message on the various talk shows all through the week.
And if I recall right, Prof. John, the EIB network is the one that carries Rush Limbaugh---who makes Fox almost seem housebroken----a diploma from Rush---I should have known.
all the repubs will be on message on the various talk shows all through the week.
And if I recall right, Prof. John, the EIB network is the one that carries Rush Limbaugh---who makes Fox almost seem housebroken----a diploma from Rush---I should have known.
OK we'll take your word for it. :roll: Talk is cheap. Annnnd, Actions speak louder than words. Chew on those for a bit and get back to us.
just stop with these ludicrous comparisons. your right-wingers think CNN is some huge liberal media giant, and that is just not true. provide PROOF to backup your statements Corbett.
Despite reading P&N since it was split off, the lengths zealots will go to defend one of their own still amaze me.
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Lifer
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I agree---the normal logical way to do things is state your premise---then provide evidence why that is so---and in terms of CNN---they have once and only once put an X on Cheneys face.----but the number of incidents where fox distorts and slants the truth is almost endless.
In the case of Rush Limbaugh---rules of logic don't apply---with others one must examine both the initial assumtions and the supporting evidence for bias.---and beware of them glossing by an assumtion of truth too rapidly---or sneaking in untrue implications.
Just because an organization is less than perfect is no excuse for the mis-behavoir of another organization.---a fair and balanced way is to compare the number of biased positions.
In my case I just want the news---the facts mam---just the facts---it then becomes my job to evaluate those facts and decide what they mean.---and I also want to see what unbiased analyists say also---so when there is a variance between what our Pres. says---and what the national intelligence estimate says---I don't want to be told which is more credable---I think I can figure that out for myself.
In the case of Rush Limbaugh---rules of logic don't apply---with others one must examine both the initial assumtions and the supporting evidence for bias.---and beware of them glossing by an assumtion of truth too rapidly---or sneaking in untrue implications.
Just because an organization is less than perfect is no excuse for the mis-behavoir of another organization.---a fair and balanced way is to compare the number of biased positions.
In my case I just want the news---the facts mam---just the facts---it then becomes my job to evaluate those facts and decide what they mean.---and I also want to see what unbiased analyists say also---so when there is a variance between what our Pres. says---and what the national intelligence estimate says---I don't want to be told which is more credable---I think I can figure that out for myself.
If the noise stopped it'd be great, but noise is met with noise. It'd be great to have substantive discussions, but the will to enforce the necessary dicipline does not exist, so it's just more noise than signal, essentially. This forum represents an extension of the Bush legacy on American politics: completely polarized and mean-spirited.
The irony, the irony! You obviously have been ignoring other viewpoints your entire life, hence the ignorance.
ProfJohn
Lifer
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ahhh we have a winner!!!! WOOHOO I thought I was going to have to explain that joke to all you Dems. Amazing how many on the left attack Rush, but as you can tell from the number of lefties who did not get that simple inside Rush joke, none of you actually listen to him. Nice
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
ahhh we have a winner!!!! WOOHOO I thought I was going to have to explain that joke to all you Dems. Amazing how many on the left attack Rush, but as you can tell from the number of lefties who did not get that simple inside Rush joke, none of you actually listen to him. Nice
I've listened to him and a little of him goes a long ways. Does he still try and mesmerize you by doing those super slow zoom ins when he is working his way to his "point"?
Oh, he's only on radio now, isn't he?
ProfJohn
Lifer
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Provide proof that Fox is some conservative media giant, should be easy since you all make that charge.
Let me point you in a good direction. Nice little report on Media bias by two college Professors.
"Our results show a strong liberal bias: all of the news outlets we examine, except Fox News' Special Report and the Washington Times, received score to the left of the average member of Congress. Consistent with claims made by conservative critics, CBS Evening News and the New York Times received score far to the left of center.
A Measure of Media Bias Note: this was an academic study, not a personal opinion study, they gathered evidence to back up their thesis.
One thing you guys seem to be confusing when you look at Fox news is its commentators and its actual news broadcasts. Sure O'Reilly is to the right, but Olbermann is certainly to the left and Chris Matthews worked for Jimmy Carter, does that automatically mean that MSNBC and CNBC are leftist news organizations?
ProfJohn
Lifer
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I'd like to thank International Machine Consortium for making me look like a nice middle of the road commentator.Originally posted by: International Machine Consortium
I'm a hypocrite? You back the party that claims to possess a higher moral standard, with great moral stalwarts such as Rush the drug addicted perverted liar, Bill O'Reilly the Loofa pervert sexist pig pay off the whistleblower weirdo, Carl Rove acting as the new Herman Goebbels and GWB the liar in chief, and I'm the hypocrite? lol indeed.
You?ll be laughing all right.
Whoozyerdaddy
Lifer
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Originally posted by: International Machine Consortium
I'm a hypocrite? You back the party that claims to possess a higher moral standard, with great moral stalwarts such as Rush the drug addicted perverted liar, Bill O'Reilly the Loofa pervert sexist pig pay off the whistleblower weirdo, Carl Rove acting as the new Herman Goebbels and GWB the liar in chief, and I'm the hypocrite? lol indeed.
You?ll be laughing all right.
WinnAr!!!
1. Lately I haven't been backing anybody
2. I've never defended Rush
3. *Standard "Republicans are Nazis" Attack*
NONE of which have anything to do with the topic of this thread. But that's how you do it itsn't it? When called out on an obviously hypocritical stance, create a DUHversion. Good work! :thumbsup:
And yeah, if you're going to ignore "mistakes" made by other news networks and slam Fox for this one, you're a hypocrite.
Like I said:
CBS - Fake documents: Meh
CNN - Big black X: Oh well
FOX - Foley, D: ZOMGWTFFOLEYSNOTADEMOCRATREPUBLICANBIASKARLROVENAZISBBQ!!!!11!11!ONE!1
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Lifer
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Interesting about the CBS comment and Dan Rathers October surprise---when you come down to it the documents were not obvious fakes--and not even proven fakes---its just that it could be proved that they might be fakes---and the military officer who could confirm or deny was long dead.
But the conclusion of the possibly forged papers were basically undisputed---GWB did indeed weasal out of his reserve duties---and strings were pulled for him by the military. And by some quirk of fate---GWB was helped and the John Kerry---who did his full military obligations was gravely wounded by a totally phony attack from the swift boat Veterans for the truth.
But the conclusion of the possibly forged papers were basically undisputed---GWB did indeed weasal out of his reserve duties---and strings were pulled for him by the military. And by some quirk of fate---GWB was helped and the John Kerry---who did his full military obligations was gravely wounded by a totally phony attack from the swift boat Veterans for the truth.
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
ahhh we have a winner!!!! WOOHOO I thought I was going to have to explain that joke to all you Dems. Amazing how many on the left attack Rush, but as you can tell from the number of lefties who did not get that simple inside Rush joke, none of you actually listen to him. Nice
Considering I can't listen to his ignorant, bigoted trash for more than two minutes without wanting to put an axe through his, and every other conservative's, skull, I think you can understand why I'm not a regular Rush listener.
Considering the average member of Congress is a brainless Republican toadie whose greatest aspiration is to be a rubber stamp for the moronic schemes of the president, saying someone is to the left of the average member of congress is not saying anything at all.
Uh, no. The pervert belonged to your party and your party tried to keep it under the radar. Accept it.
ProfJohn
Lifer
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Which explains why the producer of the story was fired and Dan Rather went into retirement and then completely forgotten about by CBS. CBS wants NOTHING to do with Dan hmm wonder why? How about the fact that the guy who "found" these documents is a Democrat hack? There are now 4 people who think those documents are real, Dan Rather, his producer, the guy who ?found? them and yourself.
Heaven forbid anyone make a mistake... You know the lefter's are really pulling for strings with this thread arises.
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