Ford and GM @ All Time Lows

[edro]

Google Finance: GM
Never even come close to being this low.

Google Finance: Ford @ 4.36
The last time it was this low, was in 1983!

Will they ever recover?
What will it take to become profitable again?
A massive reduction in models and assets, and then a specialization on their top sellers?

We hear about how bad domestic auto makers are doing... I just never really looked at their stock history before.
At least GM still has a dividend.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Ford is still 4 times as high as it was in the 80s.

 

[Feldenak]

Heh, our next car will probably either be a Ford or GM product because of the special pricing I have available with those two automakers.

 

[iamwiz82]

So by all time low you mean as low as they were 25 years ago? 😕

 

[edro]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
So by all time low you mean as low as they were 25 years ago? 😕

Yes.

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: Feldenak
Heh, our next car will probably either be a Ford or GM product because of the special pricing I have available with those two automakers.

<---Proud Saturn Driver

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: Feldenak
Heh, our next car will probably either be a Ford or GM product because of the special pricing I have available with those two automakers.

<---Proud Saturn Driver

Yeah, I drive a Saturn (99 SL2) as well. We're a 1 car household right now but need another vehicle. Dropping my wife off at work then continuing on to my work is getting really old.

 

[paulxcook]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: Feldenak
Heh, our next car will probably either be a Ford or GM product because of the special pricing I have available with those two automakers.

<---Proud Saturn Driver

Yeah, I drive a Saturn (99 SL2) as well. We're a 1 car household right now but need another vehicle. Dropping my wife off at work then continuing on to my work is getting really old.

Word. We've been doing that because my car bit the dust and we didn't want to take on payments. Been saving money nicely, but it's time for a car. We're planning on a Chevy Malibu Maxx with ~30K miles on it.

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: paulxcook

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: Feldenak
Heh, our next car will probably either be a Ford or GM product because of the special pricing I have available with those two automakers.

<---Proud Saturn Driver

Yeah, I drive a Saturn (99 SL2) as well. We're a 1 car household right now but need another vehicle. Dropping my wife off at work then continuing on to my work is getting really old.

Word. We've been doing that because my car bit the dust and we didn't want to take on payments. Been saving money nicely, but it's time for a car. We're planning on a Chevy Malibu Maxx with ~30K miles on it.

Awesome stuff guys. =)

I had to buy my Saturn when I got a job farther away from the house about 8 months ago, before that I just walked.

I had GM Supplier Discounts + 0% APR, so it made it fairly affordable.

Don't forget to look at some of the offers out there now. So many great offers as they try to shift cards off the lots these days.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: paulxcook

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: Feldenak
Heh, our next car will probably either be a Ford or GM product because of the special pricing I have available with those two automakers.

<---Proud Saturn Driver

Yeah, I drive a Saturn (99 SL2) as well. We're a 1 car household right now but need another vehicle. Dropping my wife off at work then continuing on to my work is getting really old.

Word. We've been doing that because my car bit the dust and we didn't want to take on payments. Been saving money nicely, but it's time for a car. We're planning on a Chevy Malibu Maxx with ~30K miles on it.

Awesome stuff guys. =)

I had to buy my Saturn when I got a job farther away from the house about 8 months ago, before that I just walked.

I had GM Supplier Discounts + 0% APR, so it made it fairly affordable.

Don't forget to look at some of the offers out there now. So many great offers as they try to shift cards off the lots these days.

Yep. Through work I have both GM Supplier Pricing and Ford's X-Plan pricing available.

 

[moshquerade]

Can't sell cars on sync auto systems and onstar alone.

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Can't sell cars on sync auto systems and onstar alone.

Are you suggesting we have a collaboration and put BOTH in?! That would work, right? right? 🙁

 

[spaceman]

fuck em.

 

[Squisher]

They better not tank, 1/2 my pension comes from them and the other half is 80% dependent on them.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Serves 'em right. They saw this coming and could have started retooling factories 2-3 years ago. But no, it was more SUVs, Hummers, etc.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Can't sell cars on sync auto systems and onstar alone.

Are you suggesting we have a collaboration and put BOTH in?! That would work, right? right? 🙁

put both of them in a quality car that will run like a kitten all the way to 200,000+ miles, and get at least 50 mpg, and not rust, and not feel like you are driving around in a small box on wheels, and i'd be sold with either the Ford or GM logo on it.

 

[spaceman]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Can't sell cars on sync auto systems and onstar alone.

Are you suggesting we have a collaboration and put BOTH in?! That would work, right? right? 🙁

put both of them in a quality car that will run like a kitten all the way to 200,000+ miles, and get at least 50 mpg, and not rust, and not feel like you are driving around in a small box on wheels, and i'd be sold with either the Ford or GM logo on it.

one that also doesnt smell like antifreeze in the passenger compartment.
one thats worth more than wooden nickel 2 years after you buy it.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: paulxcook
[ We're planning on a Chevy Malibu Maxx with ~30K miles on it.

Malibooooo:thumbsup:

 

[BassBomb]

Chevy needs to really reduce diversity between brands they own, what is the point of having pontiac, chevrolet, buick, etc

pump out less good cars rather than alot of mediocre

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Serves 'em right. They saw this coming and could have started retooling factories 2-3 years ago. But no, it was more SUVs, Hummers, etc.

So what about all of the other auto manufacturers who are still building huge SUVs? I mean, Toyota only has 6 different SUVs available right now.

 

[Fritzo]

There's talk of GM going out of business. I guess it's holdings in other companies is what's keeping them afloat.

Wouldn't that be something- GM dead or bought out?

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
There's talk of GM going out of business. I guess it's holdings in other companies is what's keeping them afloat.

Wouldn't that be something- GM dead or bought out?

but what will happen to "Baseball, Hot dogs, Apple Pie, and Chevrolet"?

Chevy really is an American past time, and now it's going to be just an American past.

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Can't sell cars on sync auto systems and onstar alone.

Are you suggesting we have a collaboration and put BOTH in?! That would work, right? right? 🙁

put both of them in a quality car that will run like a kitten all the way to 200,000+ miles, and get at least 50 mpg, and not rust, and not feel like you are driving around in a small box on wheels, and i'd be sold with either the Ford or GM logo on it.

Ah..an electric car.. =p

(Of course that would be more like 250 miles to the charge 😉 )

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Can't sell cars on sync auto systems and onstar alone.

Are you suggesting we have a collaboration and put BOTH in?! That would work, right? right? 🙁

put both of them in a quality car that will run like a kitten all the way to 200,000+ miles, and get at least 50 mpg, and not rust, and not feel like you are driving around in a small box on wheels, and i'd be sold with either the Ford or GM logo on it.

Ah..an electric car.. =p

(Of course that would be more like 250 miles to the charge 😉 )

sure, i'll take a Tesla Roadster. 🙂

I wonder how they move in the snow though.... : /

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Can't sell cars on sync auto systems and onstar alone.

Are you suggesting we have a collaboration and put BOTH in?! That would work, right? right? 🙁

put both of them in a quality car that will run like a kitten all the way to 200,000+ miles, and get at least 50 mpg, and not rust, and not feel like you are driving around in a small box on wheels, and i'd be sold with either the Ford or GM logo on it.

Ah..an electric car.. =p

(Of course that would be more like 250 miles to the charge 😉 )

sure, i'll take a Tesla Roadster. 🙂

I wonder how they move in the snow though.... : /

Then that'll be two please. =)

Yeah I run into that issue as well. When I look at the estimated cost for the Aptera I think "Wow! I could afford that!" but then I know something like that won't move in the snow at all.

The Tesla..at least I could look good trapped in my driveway.